Greece Debt Crisis Could Affect UK, Spark 'Cascades Of Defaults'

Greece Debt Crisis

First Posted: 06/07/11 13:23 BST Updated: 05/09/11 11:12 BST

As financial markets brace for the possibility of a Greek debt default, economic officials here are sketching out doomsday scenarios in a grim acknowledgment that even the world's strongest economies are vulnerable.

With Greece shelling out record interest rates, and with some frustrated investors pushing for a default, economists fear that the collateral damage from a credit event could reach these shores. By virtue of our connections to institutions throughout Europe and our reliance on credit, British banks bear heavy indirect exposure to Greece, setting them up for significant losses if the currently perilous Greek debt situation were to evolve into a full-blown crisis, the UK central bank said in a news conference late last month.

No one, in other words, is immune.

"It's this issue of interconnectedness in the financial system that policymakers are so worried about," said Richard Barwell, a London-based economist at Royal Bank of Scotland. "It's difficult for anyone to be convinced their balance sheet is secure unless they know that the people they've lent to, and the people that they've lent to, all their sheets are secure, too."

"At the end of the day," he added, "that's how you can get those cascades of defaults."

After European finance ministers approved the latest installment of Greece's bailout package Saturday, concerns remained about the troubled nation's ability to repay its mounting debt, which is projected to total 160 percent of the country's economic output this year. For many investors and economists, the question isn't whether Greece will default, but when.

The emergency aid extended to Greece is widely seen as a time-buying measure, and not a long-term solution. Greece likely cannot service its debt on its own, with its 10-year paper yielding nearly 16.5 percent, and its two-year debt throwing off more than 26 percent, according to Bloomberg data.

But efforts to hammer out a longer-term fix have been stymied. French President Nicolas Sarkozy outlined a plan last week for banks to stretch their short-term Greek debt into long-term bonds, offering Greece some interest-rate relief. But such a plan would impose losses on creditors and would constitute a default, the ratings agency Standard & Poor's said Monday.

If a default were to spark a broader crisis, weaknesses among Greece's immediate creditors could quickly spread.

"If UK banks are exposed to banks in France which are themselves exposed to a bank in Germany, which is then exposed to Greece, that's another indirect exposure," said Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England, during the news conference. "There's an infinite regress here."

The direct exposure of UK banks to Greece was relatively small at the end of 2010, at about £12 billion at the time, according to the latest figures from the Bank for International Settlements.

But indirect exposure potentially dwarfs that figure. If significant damage were to spread other countries' private sectors, UK banks could face severe strains, suggests a June report from the Bank of England.

The banking sector's claims on the non-bank private sectors of Spain and Ireland combined constitute about half of those banks' so-called Tier 1 capital, the money banks set aside to cushion against losses, according to the report.

As for UK banks' claims on France and Germany, those together represent about 130 percent of Tier 1 capital, the report says.

"You just don't know all the interbank connections," said John Whittaker, an economist at Lancaster University Management School. "It's like when Lehman went down. Nobody knew who was indebted by how much to who else."

The years after the financial crisis have seen a host of weak European banks become even weaker. Now, the credit ratings on Europe's 100 largest banks span the widest range in 30 years, according to S&P, the Bank of England said.

Calculating the total magnitude of the UK's exposure to a broader meltdown is impossible, King said. Moreover, any crisis would likely be worsened by a broader loss of confidence, affecting a range of institutions, he added. Creditors would flee and markets would likely freeze, heaping pain on beleaguered governments.

"There's a risk that if something went wrong, you may get a drying of liquidity more generally," said Simon Hayes, chief economist at Barclays Capital.

Or put another way, creditors might decide they "simply don't understand the complexity of the interconnectiveness of these exposures, and just won't take the risk of lending," King said at the June 24 news conference.

Such a panic would likely affect the world's strongest economies. If the crisis spreads here, it would likely also touch the United States, said Barwell, the RBS economist.

"The price of a whole range of risk assets would fall," he said. "There are these huge channels that certainly come into play, which won't get captured by the simple numbers."

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As financial markets brace for the possibility of a Greek debt default, economic officials here are sketching out doomsday scenarios in a grim acknowledgment that even the world's strongest economies ...
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Hiqutipie
Independent... Don't talk just Kiss ...
05:08 PM on 07/07/2011
Thats the Stupidity of this whole fiasco. The people that created this mess, got bailed out, are still the ones creating another mess and the I.diot governments are going along for the ride again. This was a Freak Crisis.

What is the real debt of each Piigs and what is the bank interest of the bonds or bond related debt?

Treat Piigs as states & give them long term low interest bonds.

The rating agencies & banks caused this crisis and should not dictate terms but work with governments to help solve the problems or get off the bus.

Get the Economy going, put people to work, it is the solution...
04:46 PM on 07/07/2011
This can't be said often enough! I've been reading on British blogs (mostly Guardian) for some time now, and there is quite a number of commenters there, who seem to think that this doesn't concern them because they don't use the Euro.
Instead they urge the Greeks to default and go back to the Drachma, hope that this will signal the end of the EU (or at least the Euro) and hardly bother to conceal their Schadenfreude at the continental Europeans.
Oh well, when Greece finally is allowed to default, those shortsighted fools probably won't know what hit them. Let's see how they like another bailout of their banks, pension fonds and insurance companies.
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Aikaterina
A Greek-American living in California
04:19 PM on 07/06/2011
The big European, American and other foreign banks who bought treasury notes, gave loans to Greece, Portugal, etc. all knew that those nations had high debt-to-income ratios, just as banks knew mortgage applicants had an inability to pay on large home loans.

In the US, mortgage brokers encouraged applicants to falsify information on loan applications, and banks (knowing they'd be selling off those loans) didn't bother to verify statements on applictions. Those NINJA loans came at a high price for home-buyers, while the risks (to firms-banks and investors) was ignored.

The smaller EU countries were prodded by foreign banks (eg. Goldman-Sachs), to devise clever ways to hide their debts, enabling them to borrow far more than they could afford to repay, while eluding EU restrictions-requirements.

In both cases, the banks-brokers made hefty profits. They charged exorbitant fees, commissions, and high interest rates on loans. The banks were aware of, but ignored the risks, potential for default, losses. Once the possibility of default became reality, the only thing banks wanted was the governments to guarantee their losses, so they could elude the consequences of their own reckless-predatory practices.

Banks knew the potential risks and ignored them, so the onus is on them, not the working-middle class people, who never profitted, gained or benefitted from those loans. The banks are putting pressure on the EU to implement constricting-draconian measures on Greece and Portugal, which will only exacerbate the problem.
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Hiqutipie
Independent... Don't talk just Kiss ...
07:01 PM on 07/07/2011
Not only does it stall the economy of Piigs its forcing them into a position to fail where the CDS swaps can clean up...
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Aikaterina
A Greek-American living in California
03:55 PM on 07/06/2011
Ratings agencies have played a major role in the American financial crisis (2007-2008), and are creating more hysteria (as well as difficulties) in the EU zone.

Moody's, Fitch, S&P, etc. all "sold" AAA-ratings on financial products which Wall St., banks and insurers wanted to sell. The higher the fees they got, the higher the agencies ranked products, duping governments, institutional and private investors.

These ratings agencies also knew that firms-banks creating those funds were simultaneously hedging their bets against them (de-facto admission they knew those would become worthless or "toxic" in short order). The agencies rated Lehman Bros., Bear-Stearns, AIG and other firms' shares as investment grade until the day they each collapsed.

Had those agencies not sold their high ranks to fund managers, many millions (investors) would not have bought them. As a result, governments (Iceland, etc.), institutional investors (public pensions) and individuals lost up to half of their savings-investments, bringing about the global financial collapse.

Now those same agencies, by downgrading the national debts of Greece and Portugal, are ensuring a default, caring not a whit about the investors. With "junk" status, those nations pay top interest rates (16%-26%), making it more difficult to satisfy the principle (most of their payments service interest only), and creates panic amongst investors, who are reluctant to open businesses or buy government notes, when both countries are in dire need of jobs and an infusion of cash into their treasuries.
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keiserz
Bueno...
02:35 PM on 07/06/2011
Congratula­tions, you let world class criminals(ratings agencies) let lose America.Wa­y to promote peace and transparen­cy worldwide don't you think? I reckon America's credibilit­y(and not only financial) image in Europe,at least, will be tarnished after this episode is end.
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keiserz
Bueno...
02:28 PM on 07/06/2011
Agencies are risking destabiliz­ing the financial world (include your own country Americans)­,two studies reveal a direct responsibi­lity at them for the current financial instabilit­y. The studies come from the Internatio­nal Monetary Fund (IMF) – this last February – and the European Central Bank (ECB) – published a few days ago.
The agencies not only failed to see the U.S. sub-prime crisis coming in July 2007 – products that were rated ‘AAA’ right up until the day they collapsed – they also failed to predict the sovereign debt crisis in the euro zone.Just like wild ducks, agencies flock together. Each time they degrade a country, they do it a few days apart and deliver almost the same analysis..­.This sound impartiali­ty to you?They are also anticipati­ng them, which leads to some beautifull­y self-fulfi­lling prediction­s.Well,mor­e 'creator' like.
Even the chinese ratings agency,Dag­ong, is more fair than the Americans.­And it's the f-ing chineses.