Health Bosses 'Delay Treatment In The Hope Patients Go Private Or Die'

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First Posted: 29/07/11 09:33 BST Updated: 27/09/11 11:12 BST   PA

PRESS ASSOCIATION -- Health bosses are deliberately making patients wait for treatment so they will remove themselves from waiting lists by either going private or dying, a report has suggested.

Some Primary Care Trusts (PCTs) are refusing to operate before 15 weeks in a bid to save money, an independent agency that advises the Department of Health has discovered.

The tactic was employed by PCTs after they found that if patients were made to wait longer "some will remove themselves from the list or will no longer require treatment when it is finally offered".

"A PCT may therefore save money overall by increasing waiting times," the report said. "We understand that patients will 'remove themselves from the waiting list' either by dying or by paying for their own treatment at private sector providers," the report by the Co-operation and Competition Panel (CCP) said.

The terms of the NHS Constitution states that patients should be seen within 18 weeks, but the panel has been told by some PCTs that they are imposing minimum waiting times of up to 15 weeks. The DoH guidance is to treat patients within 18 weeks but there is no specific guidance on a minimum waiting time.

Some PCTs said that increasing waiting times had the potential to save money, but the authors of the report pointed out that when treatment is delayed, more complex and expensive care can be required so money may not be saved in the long run. However, not all trusts impose minimum waiting times and provide care "as soon as a provider can safely deliver".

The Patients Association said that the "cynical manipulation" of waiting lists should not be tolerated. Katherine Murphy, chief executive of the Patients Association, said: "It is outrageous that some PCTs are imposing minimum waiting times of up to 15 weeks. This is unacceptable and aside from the worry and inconvenience it may cause for patients, we are concerned that it will put patients' health at risk.

"We urge the Department of Health to take a firm stand on this issue, clearly demonstrating to PCTs that this deplorable practice has no place in the NHS."

Health Secretary Andrew Lansley said: "This is exactly why we need to put patients' interests first. Too many PCTs have been operating in a cynical environment where they can game the system - and in which political targets, particularly the maximum 18 week waiting time target, are used to actually delay treatment.

"When GPs, specialist doctors and nurses are making the decisions, as they will under our plans, they will plan care on the basis of the clinical needs of patients and their right to access the best service, including the least possible waiting time."

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fredgladys
Your Micro-bio is empty, I know, stop nagging.
02:56 AM on 07/30/2011
So the UK health system is becoming the US health system - light.
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ravatar252
08:16 PM on 07/30/2011
So this is the truth of the reverently vaunted, Universal health care of the U.K. Yep it sure is the very acme of socialist delusions.
12:29 AM on 07/30/2011
Only in the UK can we pay less than the EU average for health care and then complain loudly that we arent getting the best system in the world! I love the private sector argument but it always means the same thing, taking money away from the taxpayer and giving it to shareholders. Competition always means duplication of resources and failure to share information because your trying to win.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
05:02 PM on 07/29/2011
If the government required non-citizens who live in England to: 

1) to pay into the system for 3 years before getting benefits and/or
2) to have health insurance to pay for services instead of giving them
NHS from day one (unlike returning Brits),

existing NHS funding and assets would probably be sufficient to cover British citizens and non-citizens who qualify.

Allowing unlimited migration is just another tool to cause wages to drop due to increased competition, make the EU masters happy and give the government a reason to privatize NHS and make more of their friends rich.
01:40 PM on 07/29/2011
'DELAYS" are the only card the private profiteers have to play -------if they used the affordability argument they would be buried alive
12:29 PM on 07/29/2011
This is typical of Tory led market ethics introduced into the NHS by both this and the previous government.
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mediumal57
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11:49 AM on 07/29/2011
A fitting piece of propaganda that Labour could use for the next election, I should say...

Picture it. The poster depicting Cameron and his Health Ministers, In the background a hospital theatre with a rather concerned patient on an operating table - The surgeon with his scalpal in one hand a large wad of cash in the other. The caption reads: Go Private or Die.

Would be a powerful emotive reminder to voters, just what putting their cross in the blue or orange box on their ballot paper gets you. However, would Labour have the guts to use such a incredibly stark message I wonder? Probably not....I'd love to see it though.
01:25 PM on 07/29/2011
***Picture it. The poster depicting Cameron and his Health Ministers, In the background a hospital theatre with a rather concerned patient on an operating table - The surgeon with his scalpal in one hand a large wad of cash in the other. The caption reads: Go Private or Die***


Brilliant!
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Feurio
Religion poisons everything
03:04 PM on 07/29/2011
Well, it's even worse... how much does the private health care care if you don't have money?

Health? This is wealth care.
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Tim Haselden
An Enemy of Rupert Murdoch, since 1984.
10:34 AM on 07/29/2011
What was the Tories election slogan "The NHS is safe with us. You can trust us."
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imokit
no longer has missing words!
12:37 PM on 07/29/2011
You believed it?
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Tim Haselden
An Enemy of Rupert Murdoch, since 1984.
01:21 PM on 07/29/2011
Of course not, I voted LibDem but got Tory anyway.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
04:56 PM on 07/29/2011
The NHS is 'safe' with them - and moving quickly towards privatizing all services and creating an NHS insurance rather than provider scheme. LibDems have shown they're batting for the same team (the oligarchs who own the government); the Brits are following the example set by Obama for the Democrats: bat for the other team and get rich, but keep the suckers who believe the spin on the hook.
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Lawyer13
retired Lawyer, General and Psychiatric Nurse, wit
10:31 AM on 07/29/2011
If the PCTs are doing this, then it is wrong, GP commissioning will help in this situation, people should be treated according to clinical need, and not on a finincial model.
11:29 AM on 07/29/2011
And how are clusters of small GP surgeries going to manage to buy services, unless of course they use private providers.

What happens when teh GP's run out of funds????
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Tim Haselden
An Enemy of Rupert Murdoch, since 1984.
12:05 PM on 07/29/2011
Same as last year, send patients straight to hospital, cutback on consultations and cutback on patients medications. life saving or not. delay or cancel regular bloodworks etc.
And if desperate "accidentally" delete patients records.
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carlgt1
10:24 AM on 07/29/2011
same as in the US -- cripple all public services (usually through massive funding cuts) to "prove" how bad gov't is and you have to "privitize" everything (i.e. have your friend's crooked companies handle everything -- while you get kickbacks errr "consulting fees")
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
10:22 AM on 07/29/2011
And conservatives will still say there should be no government regulation of this.
09:59 AM on 07/29/2011
Yep, the Tories are definitely back in power
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Tim Haselden
An Enemy of Rupert Murdoch, since 1984.
11:47 AM on 07/29/2011
See you when the riots start mate? ;-)
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imokit
no longer has missing words!
12:39 PM on 07/29/2011
Start? Where you in November?
01:23 PM on 07/29/2011
I'm already picking out my mask
09:41 AM on 07/29/2011
These decisions are ultimately made by pen pushers not doctors, they see it as a perfectly legimate way of saving money.

And quite frankly when they are having to deal with huge budget cuts, while supporting the right wing ideology of starving public services, what did we all expect ......utopia?

Morally reprehensible and repugnant, that's what government policy and the PCT's reactions are.
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MancRat
10:32 AM on 07/29/2011
Yep, the Children of Thatcher are in power and the sick and disabled will be made to pay for being a drag on the Great Society. Just like under Thatcher.

Waiting lists of years will once again be common. Some of us remember how the NHS was brutalised under her, and how when she needed surgery naturally Thatcher went private.
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12:59 PM on 07/29/2011
People have short memories.
01:24 PM on 07/29/2011
She'll die next year.

So that means along with the Jubilee, the EURO's, the Olympics and the end of the world, 2012 will be a great year for parties
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Valksy
civis mundi sum
09:16 AM on 07/29/2011
And the first person getting caught doing this will be first, struck off from ever practicing medicine and second, prosecuted.

Whole article reads like scare-mongering nonsense.