Riot Police Chief Hits Back At Cameron's Call For Zero Tolerance, Says Police Will Not 'Slavishly' Adopt Empty Slogans

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Huffington Post UK   Dina Rickman First Posted: 14/08/11 14:11 BST Updated: 14/10/11 11:12 BST

West Midlands' Police Chief has hit back at David Cameron's call for a zero tolerance crime policy, saying police will not "slavishly" adopt empty slogans.

In a statement released on Sunday, Chief Constable Chris Sims said the level of support for police felt " a million miles from the debates apparently raging in Westminster" and warned against abandoning "compassion" for some of the young people involved in rioting.

"West Midlands Police has arrested well over 500 people who are being put before the courts, sentencing is justifiably harsh but we must not at this time abandon all compassion for some of our very damaged young people who have been caught up in these incidents.

"I continue to work with the Police Authority to develop a policing response that is consistent with available good practice but is not slavishly adopting empty slogans. The ethos of local policing has been the bedrock which has allowed collective common sense to prevail.

"In the end my job is to serve and protect the people of the West Midlands and to be accountable to them."

He was speaking ahead of a United Birmingham Peace event held in the wake of the murder of three men during riots in Birmingham, where residents will call for "one city, one voice for peace".


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West Midlands' Police Chief has hit back at David Cameron's call for a zero tolerance crime policy, saying police will not "slavishly" adopt empty slogans. In a statement released on Sunday, Chief ...
West Midlands' Police Chief has hit back at David Cameron's call for a zero tolerance crime policy, saying police will not "slavishly" adopt empty slogans. In a statement released on Sunday, Chief ...
 
 
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
07:35 AM on 08/15/2011
Good on the police for remembering who they serve! Who is this Cameron, anyway? He sounds like the worst kind of empty suit, with his corporate catchphrases. Is he an American lapdog like Tony Blair?
10:49 PM on 08/14/2011
a strange leadership
fredgladys
Your Micro-bio is empty, I know, stop nagging.
09:43 PM on 08/14/2011
But Chris, sound bites, photo ops and empty slogans are what pollies do best, don't cramp their style and bring logic into the equation.
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Chris Burgess
George Bush. The Worst President Ever!
01:36 AM on 08/15/2011
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
07:00 PM on 08/14/2011
If the police had followed politicians' 'hard line' with everyone, this would have spread to every city in England.

Davey, Boris et. al. were on fancy holidays and tried to phone it in. They don't comprehend that there are multiple causes that require careful consideration of a blended solution.  Politicians are painting this simply as a failure of middle/lower class parenting and respect for 'law and order' (ignoring the rich kids involved) with roots in the failure to enforce basic order in classrooms for 20 years, worthless court sentences like ASBOs for multiple offenses (the rich aren't affected by most crime so 'it's not their problem') and a subsequent feeling of no accountability for actions.

All classes admit there are clearly two standards of justice:  the poor get joke sentences as long as they confine their crimes to their own areas.  Rich folks or their kids can commit murder, financial crimes (RBS, eg) or file huge fraudulent expenses without any serious accountability. The obscenely rich and powerful even have a special new court, to maintain their 'privacy' for a cost of only £150K or so (even better if that gagging order prevents discussion of why RBS failed; pols don't want the rich blamed for the financial mess.)

The police are in the trenches everyday; if you're going to listen to someone who knows the various groups and their moods, understand there were those with legitimate grudges, mindless disconnected vandals, and highly organized and motivated looters (who were followed by more mindless, disconnected youth.)  They know that 'hard line' will cause widespread disorder, and the police have to be on the side of the working man.

Politicians now realize their own political necks are on the lines from those pesky 'lower classes' (who inconsiderately ruined their vacations with riots and photo ops with heckling) and the obscenely rich, who are terrified this could spread into 'their' lives.  UK government has to see the economic writing on the wall:  when income disparity reaches a certain point (Russia, 1917; Arab spring countries, 2010), politicians and sometimes entire governments fall.  More police to keep order, which means that budget-cutting is out the window.  The working man won't accept more taxes or cuts when his daily decision is now 'do I eat or pay the utilities/buy petrol.'  Politicians understand the fiercely accelerating financial decline of the middle and lower classes, but not that they simply can't/won't take anymore.  Raising taxes on the obscenely rich/corporations will kill their personal golden goose, and they're praying this law-and-order stand will do the trick. 


If the police don't follow the hard line, the Territorial Army won't either.  This could be an "English Summer."
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
07:38 AM on 08/15/2011
Power to you all! Stand up for the poor and downtrodden, for the rights of the ordinary man, and don't back down. They're trying to get our backs to the wall in every country in the world, it seems. It's like they've suddenly realised that this world is too overpopulated to support us all, and they're planning to do away with those of us "unnecessary" folk by first breaking our economic power and then? I can't help but wonder.
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nete peedham
04:06 PM on 08/14/2011
Well done, Chief Constable!
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floodberg
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05:52 PM on 08/14/2011
X2!
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Chris Burgess
George Bush. The Worst President Ever!
01:37 AM on 08/15/2011
Very well done. Twittered F/F
04:05 PM on 08/14/2011
Can't but remember the words of the elderly West Indies man interviewed by BBC: the government did not see it coming, the police did not see it coming. Nor did the media. When a country is o so blind about its own miseries, sad stuff like this is bound to happen.
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floodberg
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07:18 PM on 08/14/2011
Couldn't fave you Leonel AbaroaBoloa because of the badge system, but you got the Insight badge.  Nice!
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Chris Burgess
George Bush. The Worst President Ever!
01:38 AM on 08/15/2011
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