Speed Limit On Britain's Motorways To Be Raised To 80mph

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The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 29/09/11 18:36 BST Updated: 29/11/11 10:12 GMT

The speed limit on Britain's motorways is set to be increased to 80 miles per hour (mph).

Transport secretary Philip Hammond is due to make the announcement at the Conservative Party conference in Manchester next week.

He will present it as a move designed to boost British business.

Speaking to Sky News on Friday, Hammond said: "This is a clear proposal from the Government to increase the motorway speed limit to 80 miles an hour.

"Principally this is about the huge time savings that would be available by improving journey times, hundreds of millions of pounds worth a year of time savings.

"And also the benefit of bringing millions of ordinary motorists, who are otherwise law abiding, back on the right side of the law because frankly the current speed limit has lost legitimacy."

The increase will be offset with an expansion in the number of 20mph zones in residential areas as part of a compromise agreement with the Liberal Democrats.

Peter Rodger, chief examiner at the Institute of Advanced Motorists, supports a trial of an increase to 80mph on controlled sections of the motorway.

Speaking to The Huffington Post UK, he said: "An increase may yield economic benefits of shorter journey times, but this has to be balanced against the potential road safety issues."

Britain has one of the lowest speed limits in Europe. France has a limit of 80mph while drivers on German autobahns are not subject to a speed limit at all.

However, the proposed raising of the speed limit has alarmed environmental campaigners, who argue that cars use 20 per cent more fuel at higher speeds.

Some road safety campaigners also oppose the move, with charity Brake calling it "shameful".

Brake's chief executive, Mary Williams OBE, said: "The minister Philip Hammond is partially arguing that this move is a good idea because a proportion of drivers break the 70mph limit and that their law breaking needs to be made 'legitimate'. Actions of law breakers should not be legitimised. This is a selfish move that will achieve nothing other than carnage and is pandering to an uninformed few.

"What is far more legitimate is the grief of families bereaved on Britain's motorways in horrendous pile ups at high speed, and the rights of all UK citizens to have slower, not faster, speeds on roads to enable drivers to avoid collisions."

Speaking to The Telegraph, Robert Gifford, of the parliamentary advisory council for transport safety, said: "This will mean a de facto speed limit of 90mph since the police are unlikely to enforce it at speeds below that."

Speaking to The Huffington Post UK, Professor Stephen Glaister, director of the RAC Foundation, said the government must be clear on why they were proposing the changes - for safety, economic or environmental reasons.

"As a society we have to decide what our priorities are and whether gains in one area are worth the trade-offs made in others."

"It's right there should be a review as the existing speed limit has been in place for nearly half a century," he said. "Things have changed: cars are safer, roads are safer.

"There are good reasons for making 80 the new 70, and good reasons not to. Drivers travelling that 10mph quicker might reach their destination sooner, but will use about 20 per cent more fuel and emit 20 per cent more CO2. There is also likely to be a slight increase in road casualties. And what about enforcement? If police follow existing guidelines, many people could do 90mph before action is taken."

The Guardian reports that energy secretary Chris Huhne was against the increase from 70mph to 80mph as it would create to more pollution.

Huhne's opposition is likely to cause a wry smile among many as he has been dogged by allegations that he illegally got his ex-wife to accept penalty points on his behalf after he was caught speeding.

The current 70mph speed limit for any UK road was set in 1965. The UK's first ever speed restriction was introduced as part of the 1861 Locomotives Act, which set the limit at 10mph.

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Ramon Noches
Retired Air Force
10:30 PM on 09/30/2011
Unless we develop a means to power flight without fossilized fuel, somewhere in the distant future when oil runs down to a trickle we had better have other useable sources of energy to take its place. While we have trains, cars, and ships powered by alternative fuels, we are not saying much about powered flight or even our quest to reach out to the stars. It would be good for a change for humanity to be able to think and plan for what will be an irrevocable certainly. Having safe very fast trains that travel along 300 miles per hour or more, I suspect will someday replace air travel. Britain is on the right track..
FrancisKing
Unitarian Christian
11:08 AM on 10/01/2011
I'm a British transport planner, and Britain is on the wrong track. The environmentalists can't make up their minds if it is a good thing that petrol prices are going up.

"Look", they say, "the high fuel prices indicate that we've reached Peak Oil".

The last time I bought petrol in Kuwait, it cost (roughly) 13p a litre. Peak Oil is some way away at the moment.

Using Peak Oil as an excuse to spend £16bn on high speed rail (carrying a fraction of 1% of trips), when local transport (carrying the bulk of the other 99%) is starved of money is just plain silly.
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The Dude67
Question the official narrative
04:00 PM on 09/30/2011
This will be good for the oil companies and the organ donor program and that's about it.
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robert horwitz
02:14 PM on 09/30/2011
Let's try something a little different. Let's base the speed limit on a persons age. If you start driving at the age of 16 that's it. You can only drive 16 miles and hour. You kids stop griping. You know most of you are completely irresponsible behind the wheel anyway. Don't be short sighted. Think about how fast you will be able to drive when you turn 95.
FrancisKing
Unitarian Christian
11:08 AM on 10/01/2011
Zimmer frame - 2 mph.
02:00 PM on 09/30/2011
Raising the speed limit to 80 on motorways is a ludicrous idea. The Tory idea to 'decriminalise' drivers and 'boost the economy' are both straw man arguments.
The Political Establishment have for decades clung tenaciously to the idea of criminalising millions of their citizens by maintaining the laws surrounding drug use, in the face of informed scientific information. Obviously the drug lobby needs a 'Jeremy Clarkson' to harp on about the advantages of legalised drug use ad infinitum on his TV programme.
As for boosting the economy, the only economy which will welcome this change is the Oil producing companies, who must be rubbing their hands in a huge pot of glee - running your car at 70mph is considerably more efficient than running it at 80mph. At 80mph you will use between 10-20% more fuel over your journey.

So its Tory popularity up with White Van Man, and the Oil Companies as well!

Bad luck if you are hoping to meet the CO2 targets for Kyoto, and of course, abysmal luck if you happen to be in collision with the pseudo-Hamilton/Button/Alonso (delete to taste) who looses control of their car and smashes into you on the motorway...
FrancisKing
Unitarian Christian
11:11 AM on 10/01/2011
The largely unregulated UK motorways have an 85% speed of 80mph before the 80mph speed limit - so the net result of an 80mph speed limit is no change in speed, journey time or fuel consumption.

It's the usual bit of spin before a conference. Doesn't cost much, doesn't do much either.
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01:47 PM on 09/30/2011
You are forcing everyone to immediately change long practiced driving habits.
lastpost
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01:31 PM on 09/30/2011
"He will present it as a move designed to boost British business."
And a means of providing much needed competition for HS2?

"it would create to more pollution"
But as legally required targets are not going to be met (without an explosion of renewable energy ventures), that hardly matters anyway.

"he was caught speeding."
Obviously a man ahead of his time.

"a limit of 80mph"
Since most seem to drive at that speed anyway. Why not forget about changing the limit and concentrate on just catching those who grossly exceed it? Or is a the real elephant in the road here, a problematical lack of police?
12:30 PM on 09/30/2011
This is crazy, the speed limit is rising by 10mph to please the European law lords. It's nothing to do with energy saving or polution figures it ties us in with the rest of Europe as their speed limit is similar (They use KPH)
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waldopepper
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10:34 AM on 09/30/2011
Jeremy Clarkson should love this.
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diabloblanco513
TS69
10:15 AM on 09/30/2011
speed limits were designed to save fuel

they are just an excuse for revenue anymore
10:14 AM on 09/30/2011
That's nuts. I've driven autoroutes in the UK and 80mph is a tad bit excessive considering the average with creep to 84 mph with the 5% radar correction. IMO, too much congestion for this speed limit. Yes, some of the bigger cars can easily handle these speeds, but not the economy vehicles. Add in the typical weather (rain, fog) and the result will be worse.
09:54 AM on 09/30/2011
Going nowhere fast officially sanctioned, wonderful....

http://rmiglobal.org/2011/09/30/london-blue-sky-mystery-cloud-making-planes-take-welcome-break/
09:46 AM on 09/30/2011
The 70mph speed limit was set back in the mid 1960's when most cars only had Drum brakes and took too long to stop........

It only came in after a couple of accidents on the newly opened A1 involving powerful cars....

As to MPG remember that when you look at the averages the highest useage is in the Urban cycle which is when the car is travelling at it's slowest....

They are only talking about the speed limits on Motorways.
FrancisKing
Unitarian Christian
01:48 PM on 09/30/2011
My 125cc motorbike also had a front drum brake - took way too long to stop.
HarkaDahl
rude impatient judgemental and filled with love
09:26 AM on 09/30/2011
80 is perferctly normal on a good clear day. Whats the big fuss? I'm sick of being nannied by intrusive, molly-coddling, spoon-feeding, busy-bodies!!

(feel better now)
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AmosKnows
Educating The American Idol Masses
07:12 AM on 09/30/2011
Population control.
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Trekkiefandom
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12:55 AM on 10/01/2011
lol. well said.
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Andy Svoboda
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04:08 AM on 09/30/2011
Good, now people can get to where they are going 8 min faster
FrancisKing
Unitarian Christian
01:49 PM on 09/30/2011
They're already doing 80mph+ - so, no time savings at all.