Global Warming Is Real, Says Study Partly Funded By Climate Change Sceptics

Global Warming

The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 21/10/11 17:01 BST Updated: 21/10/11 17:56 BST

Global warming is looking an ever more certain phenomenon, according to research partly funded by climate change sceptics.

The study by the Berkeley Earth project, the most comprehensive independent review of weather records to date, concluded that the Earth really is getting warmer.

The study compiled more than a billion temperature readings from global weather stations, plotting the global land temperature trend since 1800.

It showed that temperatures have indeed risen since the 19th century and that, since the mid 1950s, the average global land temperature has risen by around 1C.

The project was commissioned to resolve the dispute over previous findings, particularly in the wake of the 2009 'Climategate' affair, when hacked e-mails from the University of East Anglia suggested that global warming claims had been exaggerated.

The study produced similar conclusions to previous research by Nasa and the Met Office, together with the University of East Anglia, which indicated that global warming was happening.

Richard Muller, the Berkeley group founder, told BBC News:

“Our biggest surprise was that the new results agreed so closely with the warming values published previously. I was deeply concerned that the group [at UEA] had concealed discordant data".

The group's work also aimed to address claims from sceptical climate change bloggers about weather station data not showing a true warming trend. Sceptics claimed that higher temperature readings near cities skewed results from urban heat, but this research found that it did not significantly affect the averages because urban areas represent less than 1 per cent of the land on Earth.

"We have looked at these issues in a straightforward, transparent way, and based on that, I would expect legitimate sceptics to feel their issues have been addressed" Muller said.

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Global warming is looking an ever more certain phenomenon, according to research partly funded by climate change sceptics. The study by the Berkeley Earth project, the most comprehensive independe...
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Richard2
04:05 PM on 10/29/2011
Has this happened before?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/411357-watch-bangkok-flood-in-1942/
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
12:34 PM on 11/04/2011
The article is about global temperature rise, not a flood in Thailand.
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Richard2
04:13 PM on 10/28/2011
"The study compiled more than a billion temperature readings from global weather stations, plotting the global land temperature trend since 1800."

The Berkeley Earth project data indicates that the earth's temperature has increased by about 2 degrees C. over the past two centuries. This confirms that the earth has warmed since the end of the Little Ice Age.

Whether this 2 degree warming was of net benefit to mankind is a serious question.

One could argue that this amount of warming was an overall net benefit to human civilization, as food supplies have become larger and more predictable.

Also, the 2 degree warming didn't result in huge numbers of "climate refugees" or other problems which are now routinely assumed to be associated with any further warming of the world's temperature.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
06:58 PM on 10/28/2011
The temperature is going to keep rising R2. But you knew that.
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Richard2
05:07 PM on 10/31/2011
Like the scientists exposed then by leaked emails from East Anglia University’s Climatic Research Unit, her colleagues from the BEST project seem to be trying to ‘hide the decline’ in rates of global warming.

In fact, Prof Curry said, the project’s research data show there has been no increase in world temperatures since the end of the Nineties – a fact confirmed by a new analysis that The Mail on Sunday has obtained.


‘There is no scientific basis for saying that warming hasn’t stopped,’ she said. ‘To say that there is detracts from the credibility of the data, which is very unfortunate.’
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realpolitic
When in Rome.......
08:53 PM on 10/28/2011
Have you even noticed what is going on in Thailand now? The entire country is flooded.
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Richard2
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
07:35 PM on 10/27/2011
This is just more evidence that we need to phase out fire as a source of energy. The combustion of fossil fuels with oxygen from the air forms a corrosive mixture of heat trapping gases which our atmosphere can no longer absorb without damaging the planetary surface that we survive on. The people who doubt or challenge this notion are typically acting out of fear. The people who challenge this notion are typically funded by, or influenced by, those who are dependent upon the burning of fossil fuel, and typically have no scientific standing or understanding. They typically challenge scientific evidence with political slander, innuendo, mud, and worse. But they have yet to come up with convincing science in their favor.

We have to phase out fire. Do the math. We are adding more carbon dioxide to the atmosphere than it can scrub out, and it is building up to dangerous levels. Carbon dioxide is delicious if you are a plant, but if you are a plant, you can’t survive prolonged drought or flooding from swiftly changing climate caused by excess carbon dioxide in the air.

Why are conservatives fighting progress on energy? Why do they cling to fire as a source of energy? Why? Because they have made fortunes from it throughout history and they aren’t about to willingly stop now.

We humans are too numerous to keep using fire for energy. The days of fire are coming to a close.
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realpolitic
When in Rome.......
11:55 PM on 10/26/2011
Orkney, is Thai flooding the result of climate change? What say you?
10:38 PM on 10/26/2011
It's so wonderful that the HP keeps this story up so that we can continue to beat it around the head and shoulders.

It would seem that Professor Muller made this statement with regards to the data in this study: "...Yet the margin of error for the stations is at least three times larger than the estimated warming...."

Wow!

The margin of error on this data is THREE times the estimated warming?

Wow!

We all know what that means folks!

There is little or no certainty that this data is of any use.

Particularly if your 'use' is to allow governments to destroy the world's economy and kill millions of humans as a result.
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ClimateHawk
Think before posting.
01:48 AM on 10/27/2011
And then he goes on to say ...

"Without good answers to all these complaints, global-warming skepticism seems sensible. But now let me explain why you should not be a skeptic, at least not any longer."

Go ahead, read the entire article.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204422404576594872796327348.html
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
03:10 AM on 10/27/2011
This is why deniers like yourself receive so little respect - you don't actually do any work to support your claims. You just make them if they sound good, and move on.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
04:13 AM on 10/27/2011
That works for Luchan in his usual haunts, the wingnut boards. That style gets the pitchfork crowd all lathered up.
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
05:40 PM on 10/26/2011
American Geophysical Union
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The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate system — including the temperatures of the atmosphere­, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons — are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century...

With climate change... the human footprint on Earth is apparent. The cause of disruptive climate change… is tied to energy use and runs through modern society. Solutions will necessarily involve all aspects of society. Mitigation strategies and adaptation responses will call for collaborations across science, technology­, industry, and government­.

http://www.agu.org/sci_pol/positions/climate_change2008.shtml
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Dardedar
Not here to play patty cake...
02:41 AM on 10/26/2011
The article about this at the award winning science site Realclimate, is not to be missed:

"Berkeley earthquake called off

Anybody expecting earthshaking news from Berkeley, now that the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature group being led by Richard Muller has released its results, had to be content with a barely perceptible quiver. As far as the basic science goes, the results could not have been less surprising if the press release had said “Man Finds Sun Rises At Dawn.” This must have been something of a disappointment for anyone hoping for something else."
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/10/berkeley-earthquake-called-off/

And of course, the climate science deniers were hoping for something else.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
01:17 PM on 10/26/2011
Thanks for that Dar.
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realpolitic
When in Rome.......
01:48 AM on 10/26/2011
Was the Russian heat wave, which killed 700 people and was unprecedented since record keeping began in the 19th century, statistically linked to climate change? According to the analysis, there’s an 80 percent chance that climate change was responsible. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/10/russian-heat-climate-change/
BlackbirdHighway
Brawndo's got electrolites!
04:52 AM on 10/27/2011
I thought this graph was amazing. It shows just how far the 2010 Russian heatwave was outside of the normal range.
http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/ccgraph.png
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realpolitic
When in Rome.......
05:17 AM on 10/27/2011
Wow, it is way beyond the 10th percentile which must hardly ever happen. Thanks for the info.
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ClimateHawk
Think before posting.
12:36 AM on 10/26/2011
Yes, the earth is getting hotter.

Food prices are going up because plants don't like the extreme conditions.

Clothing prices are going up because the cotton crops got hit hard this year.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/25/population-water-idUSN1E79O0IZ20111025

Rains are heavier because there is more moisture in the atmosphere.

Now is the time to move to clean energy. Help make the point by coming to the White House November 6. For more info see www.tarsandsaction.org
10:54 PM on 10/26/2011
Food prices are going up because Politicians are paying to turn food into fuel in response to environmentally whacky theories.
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
03:20 AM on 10/27/2011
Oh, so you don't believe supply and demand is a valid economic theory?

'cause it's pretty clear that food crops dying = less supply...
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realpolitic
When in Rome.......
09:30 PM on 10/25/2011
Porkenygal argues that the BEST paper showing the Urban Heat Island Effect is just another denier canard have not been peer-reviewed, as if to nullify the paper.  Well, the team has written four papers and submitted them for peer-review, which has yet to happen.   Judith Curry of the Georgia Institute of Technology, whom Orkney constantly shills for, is a member of  the BEST team.  Is Orkney now saying Curry is a hack after all her former acolytes?
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MikeWebster
Always happy.
03:03 AM on 10/26/2011
Reality has obviously been subverted by the left wing.
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realpolitic
When in Rome.......
03:20 AM on 10/26/2011
Yes, you know the saying "Reality has a well-known liberal bias."
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Richard2
03:22 PM on 10/25/2011
"....The summary sentence completely misrepresents 'climategate.' This refers to the release of thousands of emails, commented code, etc. from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia. The land based instrumental temperature record was not the primary focus of the problems revealed in these documents. Rather, the explicit evidence of the manipulation of proxy records used in paleoclimate reconstructions, suppression of other viewpoints, manipulation of the IPCC process, and intimidation of journal editors were all evidence of serious breaches of ethics. Muller's findings hardly alters these findings."

Richard S. Lindzen
Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences
MIT
Cambridge, Mass
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
04:55 PM on 10/25/2011
Defamation. The so called climate situation passed numerous investigations. No wrongdoing was ever found. Doesn't matter to people like FOX and the shills. They keep trumping up climategate in their attempt to control public opinion.

The emails were hacked and stolen right around the time that FOX was breaking into everyone's private accounts. This climategate smear has FOX fingerprints all over it. The hackers have not yet been identified. Wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that was FOX also.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
04:58 PM on 10/25/2011
Richard Lindzen is on the payroll of Exxon Mobil, having received over one million dollars in funding over the last few years alone. Big oil funds the overwhelming majority of his research, and this is a matter of public record.

Moreover, EIGHT separate inquiries have cleared the CRU of any and all wrongdoing. The emails were STOLEN, and the CRU has been bombarded with dozens of FOI requests, which amounts to harrassment.

What does Lindzen think he knows that EIGHT inquiries do not?
10:55 PM on 10/26/2011
A MILLIONS DOLLARS!!!!!!

WOW!!!!!!!

And the folks who create and publish this stuff are being paid BILLIONS by governments.

Hmmmmm, I'm guessing the folks getting the BILLIONS are probably going to lie a lot more and a lot harder than the guys getting MILLIONS.
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
02:16 PM on 10/25/2011
Anthony Watts – March 2011:

“And, I’m prepared to accept whatever result they produce, even if it proves my premise wrong. I’m taking this bold step because the method has promise. So let’s not pay attention to the little yippers who want to tear it down before they even see the results.”

Anthony Watts, October 20, 2011:

“This is sad, because I had very high hopes for this project as the methodology is looked very promising to get a better handle on station discontinuity issues with their “scalpel” method. Now it looks just like another rush to judgement, peer review be damned.”

http://climatecrocks.com/2011/10/24/spinning-and-armwaving-deniers-decide-how-best-to-deny-best/
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Dardedar
Not here to play patty cake...
02:23 AM on 10/26/2011
Priceless.
04:11 AM on 10/26/2011
Priceless, indeed. Spoken like a true septic (spelling intended): Watts that is.
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
12:57 PM on 10/25/2011
"We have looked at these issues in a straightforward, transparent way, and based on that, I would expect legitimate sceptics to feel their issues have been addressed" Muller said.

Unfortunately, it is the illegitimate sceptics who are causing most of the problems in this issue.

That would include the people who are throwing around the "peer review" meme as if this will somehow save their illegitimate, unrealistic, cobbled together system of misinformation. OK, if you don't hunt, fish, farm, or garden, and are still wet behind the ears, and/or if you haven't studied some rigorous physical science, you probably don't have a clue what is going on with our climate, and you have to depend on people who don't have your best interests at heart as sources of information.

Here is a clue for all the illegitimi out there. Combustion of coal and oil has been making some people unimaginably wealthy for over a century. Why on earth would they let a tiny little thing like concern about climate rearrangement get in the way of their ability to keep doing this? As long as they can get in their yacht and sail away from diasaster, what do they care about you and your family and your food supply and your wallet? They are comfortable with the way things are and you had better get used to that or they will label you a liberal ....or worse!
10:58 PM on 10/26/2011
And the guys at Solyndra who ripped us off of $500,000,000 are what? Swiss Cheese?

The folks running the oil/gas industry employ millions of people worldwide.

The folks at Solyndra employ NOBODY.
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
07:11 PM on 10/27/2011
So what you are saying is that you don't have a clue about climate, climate change, global warming, infrared absorption by CO2, 400 ppm at the top of the atmosphere, rising food prices, or the need to phase out fire as a source of energy.

But still you take up space on this blog.

Winner. A real winner.