Income Tax And National Insurance Could Be Merged

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Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 14/11/11 19:05 GMT Updated: 14/11/11 19:05 GMT

Income tax and national insurance could be combined under a set of new government proposals aimed at making the UK's tax system more simple and more transparent. The idea is the subject of a new paper, launched alongside a public consultation on the country's tax administration.

Announcing the consultation, treasury minister David Gauke said: “At the moment, for a lot of people, the tax line on their pay slip is the only time they see just how much they’re paying in tax, but the Government doesn’t think that’s good enough. We want to make tax more transparent and we want people to be more engaged with their own tax affairs."

Merging income tax and national insurance is seen as a step towards clarifying the real rate of tax paid by UK employees. It would also potentially save HMRC hundreds of millions of pounds in administration.

The Institute of Directors welcomed the consultation, but said that to combine the two would create "a lot of winners and losers".

“We welcome any move by the government towards a simpler tax system, and this paper represents a sensible next step," Richard Baron, head of taxation at the organisation said. "However, it still holds back from serious consideration of a proper merger of income tax and National insurance. We do not say this would be the right thing to do, but we would urge the government to explore the issue fully."

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Income tax and national insurance could be combined under a set of new government proposals aimed at making the UK's tax system more simple and more transparent. The idea is the subject of a new paper...
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07:11 PM on 11/16/2011
where pensioners pay 20% tax and are excempt from NI . this means when the two are merged at current rates pensioners will end up paying a 31% tax on there pensions over the free allowence.again a tory goverment kicking the weak.if changing pension increases from RPI to CPI wasnt enough.what a caring lot the are.
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11:41 AM on 11/16/2011
Taxation is theft.
03:51 PM on 11/15/2011
If they do this, will it mean the employers don't have to pay there share towards the wellfare and health of our Country?
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12:46 PM on 11/15/2011
Combinde them together and people will get a shock at how much is take in total from our wages. Then in the future the government will scrap the NHS and all that money is pure tax and you have to buy health insurance. Another big con. Keep them seperate and we can calculate how much is given to the NHS and how much is spent on the NHS.
A better way would be to just have a 20% tax on everything we buy, no tax breaks for companies no expense claims that are tax deductable. So the tax is collected from everyone, Millioniares that spend £100,000 on a car will pay £20,000 tax and not claim it back as VAT on his tax bill.
12:22 PM on 11/15/2011
You can guarantee that, whatever they do, it will result in us paying more money.
11:57 AM on 11/15/2011
About time - the NIS was not exclusively kept for its original purpose so it is about time we stopped the pretense.
12:30 PM on 11/15/2011
Although I'm no fan of the Condem coalition, I think this could be a good move. It is not, as some posts suggest, only a right-wing idea. In the 1980s the Low Pay Unit argued that the low-paid had a higher percentage of their pay docked under the dual system. In the 1950s Aneurin Bevan (no neo-liberal he!) described the National Insurance Fund as an "actuarial fiction".

So it is an idea worth considering. The devil will be in the detail. It will be good if it betters the position of folk on low incomes given what is coming our way. (It is just that with Osbourne as Chancellor we have to be instinctively sceptical; he doesn't exactly come over as a man with a longing for social justice.) We need to not look at this on its own; it has to be linked to other policies.
11:07 AM on 11/15/2011
NI is not a ring fenced pot of money which funds certain benefits. It's just another means of collecting tax which goes into the general pool. It may have started off with a purpose but no longer. It is about as specific as road tax.

The political reality is that no Party wants to admit that the basic rate of tax is 32% for those in work. Though on pensions and investment income it is still 20%. Labour having promised not to increase Income Tax did exactly that by increasing NI; nobody was fooled by this cynical move.

It must be possible to simplify the tax system to accommodat­e the existing effective tax rates but there does not seem to be the political will.

The Tolleys Yellow Tax Handbook shows how complex the tax system has become:

"The 2011 edition of the handbook clocks in at 14,586 pages, nearly 10,000 pages longer than the 1997 version, which had 4,988 pages."

Most of this increase came under the obsessive Gordon Brown. The vast majority of the tax code is irrelevant to 99% of the taxpayers and the 1% to whom it applies seem to be able to get around it. So it seems to be a complete waste of everyone's time and the system should be drasticall­y reformed immediatel­y.
12:15 PM on 11/15/2011
Sadly loads have been fooled by the Labour Govt because they are too easily duped and still think that their politicians of the present day have their interests at heart - which those of the past did. (The media have done the same thing) People of conviction went into politics - now we have career politicians - generally self seeking (none more clearly so than Tony Blair and his wife) and too often with no real knowledge about how tough life really is in Britain (sadly our current leaders demonstrate that on a daily basis - and as for the Mayor of London ...). Our NI Taxes have been robbed by successive Govts over years - it is now time to stop the pretense and stop wasting the huge amount of money on its admin. Merge the two.
11:06 AM on 11/15/2011
Another smoke and mirrors trick from this coalition of fraudsters liars and traitors determined to make the gap between the rich and poor greater than ever before so the poor will not even be able to afford anything other than basic care for themselves(in the hope they will die before they get their pension?)
10:01 AM on 11/15/2011
I think this is a winner, although, when everyone realizes what they're actually paying we'll all cry! As it is now, it's a real pain to work out what we're paying out of our wages.

Once we're over the shock, then the pressure will be on to reduce it. It will also be cheaper to administer too.
09:55 AM on 11/15/2011
They don't need to do this. They just need to enforce the current system rigorously and close the loopholes. It's a fact that a lot of high earning footballers are now having their salaries payed as image rights. Income from the use of ones image is taxed at 22% rather than the 50% that a lot them would be paying. This means they're paying less tax as a percentage of their income than a Nurse or street cleaner. Huge amounts of money is being hidden in overseas accounts. Salaries paid overseas, city traders paid in commodities which cannot be taxed. The claim of non domiciliary status to avoid taxation in the UK is rife among the wealthy. You only have to live at your address outside the UK for one day in every three months to qualify. However, you will not see any changes to these things as too many Tories and their friends are exploiting these loopholes. Above a certain level of income you don't pay NI so this will affect the least well off most. Before people trot out the tired old arguements about envy and jealousy, I don't mind people being wealthy. I do mind people avoiding paying their dues because they are not taxed in the same way as everyone else. All taxation at source, if it's good enough for the majority off us it's good enough for all of us and savage jail terms for tax evasion.
09:25 AM on 11/15/2011
Just a thought....Senior citizens working over the retirement age don't pay NI, so by combining Income Tax and NI, into a "single income tax", retired people will be paying more income tax for the same amount of income automatically, whether they continue working or not.
10:56 AM on 11/15/2011
In that case they would need to either massively increase the OAP tax allowance, say to £20000, or have a different tax rates for Seniors
09:22 AM on 11/15/2011
"Winners and Losers"....yeah - The GOvernment will be the winners and Joe Public the losers - enough said.
08:58 AM on 11/15/2011
Just maybe this is a good idea! Potentially it could mean that everyone, whether employee or self employed, public servant or private sector, pays the same proportion of their income in tax. Now that would be fair, wouldn't it?
08:44 AM on 11/15/2011
the rich the winners and the poor the loosers.................... whats new.......................
06:57 AM on 11/15/2011
POLITICIANS = CONFIDENCE TRICKSTERS & LEGAL CRIMINALS IN MY BOOK
12:06 PM on 11/15/2011
And don't forget the lawyers - they make the most out of everyone.