Drugs Policy: Why Ex-Policy Makers Break The Drugs Taboo

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Huffington Post UK   Dina Rickman First Posted: 20/11/11 06:21 Updated: 21/11/11 17:31

What do spies do when they retire? Write novels, garden, spend time with their family - or, in the case of one former MI5 head, call to legalise drugs.

On Thursday Baroness Manningham-Buller made headlines when she said it was time to look at evidence-based drug policy. She has joined the ranks of the All Parliamentary Group on Drug Policy Reform, who want David Cameron to set up a commission looking at the issue.

Manningham-Buller isn’t the only former something who believes the war on drugs is not working. Bob Ainsworth, who was once the Home Office minister with responsibility for drugs policy, injected some new life into the debate last December when he said it was time to decriminalise them - including cocaine and heroine - and take them out of "the hands of criminals".

"We must take the trade away from organised criminals and hand it to the control of doctors and pharmacists," he said.

Nearly 11 months on and Ainsworth “absolutely” stands by his calls.

While he was in the Home Office, the Labour MP said he achieved only "10% of what I would have wanted", downgrading cannabis and making it legal to prescribe heroin - outside of government he can go further.

"This will move, one day, and it's impossible to say when and it will probably come quite suddenly. People will think that the war on drugs has been a failure. Progress has been made but I'm not sure it's imminent."

So why do former politicians speak out? Transform, a pressure group campaigning against the war on drugs, even have a phrase for the phenomenon - “retirement syndrome”.

For Ainsworth, Manningham-Buller was “absolutely right” to only speak out after leaving office - and so was he. "You cannot do that kind of job and be a free spirit. You are part of government and have to go with its responsibilities. You can resign and be totally free to say what you like or you can continue and you can try to move policy to the degree that you can gain consensus."

Danny Kushlick, Transform’s head of external affairs says it’s “a question of time” before that consensus builds; First come the former ministers and civil servants, then come the current ones.

“Basically it's a taboo issue until you reach the point where is comes to the forefront. Both the presidents of Colombia and Mexico have been making, as incumbents, statements against the war on drugs.”

The Home Office has always maintained decriminalisation of drugs is too simplistic and does not address the harm of taking drugs - but Kushlick believes it’s a matter of time before drugs are legal - in part, due to the global economic crisis: “We're looking at 2020, drugs being legalised within a 10 year time frame.

“The global economic crisis is producing scrutiny of lousy expenditure. Spending £100bn a year on the war on drugs and then even more clearing up the mess from it isn't tenable.

“You can fight expensive wars when you're rich but not when you're poor”.

Kushlick points out that prohibition in America ended in the context of the great depression in the 1930s - and the same thing could happen now.

Not everyone shares his optimism. "Crises are not usually progressive, and progressive policies are not usually made as a result of crisis”, Ainsworth said.

And some think we’re having the wrong argument altogether. Leo Barasi, of the UK Drug Policy Commission says drug policy has become “polarised” between decriminalisation and prohibition - making the debate “toxic” for senior and ambitious politicians.

“The drugs market is changing with new ‘legal highs’ and we’re seeing more evidence of what can work from other countries that are trying different control systems and ways to help people with drug problems.

“We should recognise that there are lots of ways we can control different kinds of drugs and take action against suppliers. It’s important we allow policymakers to look at the evidence on how we can best reduce the damage drugs can cause”.

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What do spies do when they retire? Write novels, garden, spend time with their family - or, in the case of one former MI5 head, call to legalise drugs. On Thursday Baroness Manningham-Buller made h...
What do spies do when they retire? Write novels, garden, spend time with their family - or, in the case of one former MI5 head, call to legalise drugs. On Thursday Baroness Manningham-Buller made h...
 
 
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23:04 on 21/11/2011
Prohibition does not keep drugs from anybody. Any high school kid or prison inmate can buy drugs at will. Every State, City and Street in America has drugs for sale. Anyone who wants drugs can get them at will.

Pretending Legalization of Marijuana would increase use is moronic. Anybody intrested in smoking Marijuana is doing so as i type this. The same is true for Heroin, Meth and Oxycottin.

Legalization only effects the problems caused directly by prohibition.
20,000,000 Americans choose to use Marijuana every year. The majority of these people use Marijuana responcibly and are sick of their choice of intoxicants making them a criminal. Marijuana causes less harm to the body then asprin does anyone have a ligitmate reason American Tax Payers should continue to spend 35 Billion fighting Marijuana? Is your percieved sense of moral supiority worth it?
01:54 on 21/11/2011
one other point as you drive or walk to work, school to shop. the guy in the car coming towards you did he just have a couple of joints this morning, now it is legal? did he just inject his fix before setting off to keep calm?
02:20 on 21/11/2011
Or did he drink 18 pints of alcohol at the rugby club or half a bottle of port at the gentlemans club. Alcohol is more harmful than cannabis yet it is legal. It has been calculated that there could be a net £6BN income per annum to UK exchequer from legalisation of cannabis and in these times where poor people are being scapegoated as the cause of the recession we should not pass up an opportunity to make life better for all of us. Did you know that cannabis prohibition came about as a result of racism in america in the 1930's do we really want to be associated with a policy like that?
16:20 on 21/11/2011
interesting point both alcohol and drugs because we are talking all drugs here , are dangerous and will affect a persons driving skills, yet you want to increase the danger.
cannabis was classed as a class b drug and made illegal here in 1928( before the US) and was based on health issues not racism
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04:30 on 21/11/2011
ever hear of a Dr Carl Sagan?

"I have on a few occasions been forced to drive in heavy traffic when high. I’ve negotiated it with no difficulty at all, though I did have some thoughts about the marvelous cherry-red color of traffic lights. My high is always reflective, peaceable, intellectually exciting, and sociable, unlike most alcohol highs, and there is never a hangover. Through the years I find that slightly smaller amounts of cannabis suffice to produce the same degree of high, and in one movie theater recently I found I could get high just by inhaling the cannabis smoke which permeated the theater.

There is a very nice self-titering aspect to cannabis. Each puff is a very small dose; the time lag between inhaling a puff and sensing its effect is small; and there is no desire for more after the high is there. The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world." ~Carl Sagan
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01:50 on 21/11/2011
what war? the sentences for possession of drugs can be 7 years no one gets that supply and production can carry life no one gets that.
lets try giving the max 2 years for class c
the max 7 years for class
or how about the full 14 years for supplying cannabis.

trouble is we stick at cautions and fixed penalties, reason so many kids and family members and friends etc of the rich and powerful have a drug problem.

we have never had a war on drugs just a playtime tussle.
so now lets have a real war , your caught with drugs then you do the maximum sentence. then review in 5 years the problem will be gone.
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23:05 on 21/11/2011
If that was remotely true the Countries that kill drug offenders should have no drug abuse right?
00:05 on 22/11/2011
actually they dont have a drugs problem. and with strong action neither would we
05:13 on 23/11/2011
I think you should read these articles and maybe just maybe it will all become CLEAR.
http://clear-uk.org/a-summary-of-the-health-harms-of-drugs-nhs-%E2%80%93-critque-of-the-cannabis-information/

http://clear-uk.org/cannabis-information/
10:34 on 23/11/2011
with the advent of the internet it is always possible to find a site /person who will provide the answers and evidence that you require to support your argument. this is very true with regard to drugs. both sides will always go to those who offer support. both may be right both may be wrong. Drugs do kill injure or seriously affect some people others have no long term problems. the same can be said of alcohol and smoking, you often read of someone getting to 90-100 years old smoked and drank since aged 6!.
for others though it ends in a terrible manner. the same relates to drugs. Organisations , the media and Government are all looking to remove restrict or ban smoking and drinking. if either were started today they would be banned they would be illegal, so why use them to try to justify bringing in another area that will harm a great number of people either directly or indirectly.
01:33 on 21/11/2011
This is the smartest thing I've ever heard come from an x HOME OFFICE offical. It's to bad it came to late I just hope it isn;t to get some press. Can you imagine the money that could be raised in taxes and put to a good use. The billions of pounds/dollars that we waste on SWAT TEAMS to extra police to chase drug dealers is ONE BIG SCAM. If we turned it around put them to work taking and keeping track of the additional income both country's would be better off. The drug craze would calm down eventually when everyone realizes it doesn't drive people nuts and maybe instead of taxes going up maybe we would get a break.
00:50 on 21/11/2011
What a stupid idea!
How many druggies will have their fix, then climb into their cars and kill people!
It's bad enough with legalised drinking.
01:38 on 21/11/2011
Yeah strict prohibition! Thats a sure way to resolve crime problems, theres even the wonderful model to use left by 1920s America were it certainly did not precipitate the biggest and fastest growth in organized crime throughout that country.
01:50 on 21/11/2011
it is that problem we have today if folk were doing 7 years with out parole it would stop
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23:45 on 20/11/2011
the war on pot/ hemp was a success in 1937..

for guys like hearst and dupont and mellon and anslinger..

as their industries flourished w/o the competition.

the war on pot by nixon was also a success..

as it put a damper on those anti-war hippies.

and the war now on pot by the big industries of law and order and imprisonment..

and pharmaceuticals and others so far has been a success as they too have flourished.

problem is..

the war on pot now is based solely on the Schedule One lie..

and that just can't hold up given all the facts and new research.

LEGALIZATION has to happen and soon!
00:19 on 21/11/2011
Have you ever thought cannabis might be illegal becasuse it's harmful? Not exactly the same but as with heroin the drug damages the immune system, long term cannabis users are at increased risk of cancer and blood disorders. Smoking cannabis with tobacco increases the risk of lung cancer exponentially. There are medical applications particularly where there is a need to suppress the immune system but current policy is the downside outweighs the upside so there is no immediate prospect of legalizing cannabis for medicinal purposes.
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00:39 on 21/11/2011
LOL..

you're categorically wrong..

on all points!

got links?

of course you don't.

and NO..

cannabis is not illegal bc it's harmful.

there is now clear history to the contrary!
23:45 on 20/11/2011
What war against drugs? Celebrities use drugs on a pretty open basis and only get jailed if they get caught drugged up to the eyeballs in a crashed car times in the space of 6 months.
Baroness Manningham Buller probably wouldnt think drugs were ok if she lived in the real world.
23:00 on 20/11/2011
Legalise heroin for the terminally ill by all means, it's a great analgesic (what heroin was designed for) but highly addictive and extremely harmful to the immune system (hence the correlation between heroin, HIV, and AIDS). Guaranteed to flush out the usual suspects, but have a Google before you come back on that one.
00:56 on 21/11/2011
As an ex- junkie, I don't need to google. Do you confuse google with God? The only correlation between those three things is shared needles or unprotected sex. HIV and AIDS are the same thing, with AIDS being the terminal phase of HIV. There is no link between HIV and heroin except that already stated. What do you call 'dangerous drugs?' "Commentary/ Those who don't abuse (illegal) drugs, are eight times more likely to commit intentional poisoning" Drug-related deaths as reported to Coroners in England and Wales 1998. Intentional poisoning in this report means suicide. Google that!
09:45 on 21/11/2011
No doubt you don't want to Google because you don't want to see the truth. AIDS is not the same as HIV, you need to understand the terminology. Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) is but one factor in Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome. Ideally we would have a healthy immune system in which case viruses in small dosage aren't a problem and will not cause disease. Some viruses in small doses are made into vaccines to trigger immunity and prevent disease (though the tendancy nowadays is towards killed virus). HIV in small doses, for example in saliva or sweat will not infect a person with a healthy immune system, but here is the point where I digress from the official line. If a person has an immune system that is already weakened be that from malnutrition or drug use there is a point where virus in sweat or saliva will infect. Drug users and the malnourished are therefore more likely to acquire the infection and progress to Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS).
22:02 on 20/11/2011
If the goverment budgets are so broke, where does the money for the drug come from? Maybe they should legalize and tax some drug consumption to raise money for more wars and tax cuts.
23:47 on 20/11/2011
PROBLEM IS DRUG ADDICTS ARE NOT FANTASTIC TAX PAYERS.
01:44 on 21/11/2011
He is clearly talking about a sales tax which are somewhat difficult to avoid. Also marijuana is not addictive, and countries with decriminalized or medicalized drugs such as heroin tend to have lower addiction rates.
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21:57 on 20/11/2011
Thought long and hard about this one as I was once on the 'fringes' of the drug world. Part of the 'buzz' is knowing it's wrong, by the time you are hooked you don't care any more what it's status is. However one thing that is unavoidable is the boom in drug production and that there are drug cartels in south america who are richer than small countries! They will never allow their products to be destroyed without a massive fight - so fight them legally. If drugs were legalised some of the positives could be raising tax, having a quality control, lowering prices etc. After all what is the REAL difference between someone snorting a line of coke or drinking a bottle of vodka in the evening - the truth is the vodka drinker is doing more harm. So bring it on, legalise it, control it, tax it and watch it become 'unfashionable'.
23:55 on 20/11/2011
Ref the bottle of vodka argument. I know someone who goes through about 1/2 a large bottle of vodka a night on an average day. While vodka is legal and quality controlled it is still expensive so he buys the dodgy stuff off criminals. This rather goes against eliminates criminal involvment argument. His vodka consumption means he cant hold down a job so the tax argument eg net profit for the country is lost. and even though its legal it is killing him.
I like a drink myself. However I dont kill myself with it. Like millions of people I drink and dont cause society any problems. Violent drunks should be banned from every pub in the UK.
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01:53 on 21/11/2011
It may not eliminate organized crime all together but it would certainly reduce its profit significantly and therefor its size and strength. For instance I'm not aware of anyone in my high school experience who bothered to buy dodgy alcohol from criminals when its no trouble to get someones brother to buy it for you or just nick it from the store. Drugs on the other hand obviously had to come from illegitimate sources, sending money straight into the hands of those who would be predisposed toward criminality. You can see how decriminalization might change things.
21:51 on 20/11/2011
To Gart,
You are wrong in more ways than one, I am not from the USA, i am a 'working class' UK citizen who grew up through the 'Swinging Sixties' and saw at 'first hand' the damage that is done to people who 'Dabble' with drugs, and then get 'Hooked', and have had friends Die through their addiction. I am vehemently opposed to drugs and the damage they cause.A war on drugs should mean just that.I am not interested in criminalisation, just eradication of the drugs themselves.
02:32 on 21/11/2011
Have you ever considered that your friends got HOOKED on drugs because the criminals who sold them wanted them to in order to increase their profits? You cannot get physically addicted to cannabis which is a medical fact.If people are allowed to grow their own there is no profit for criminals in it so they move on to DVDs, cigarettes, fuel etc etc Then you don't get people moving on to other drugs which are harmful because there are no criminals to push them to them. How can people not see the logic in that?
21:35 on 20/11/2011
If made legal will persons be allowed to inject in the workplace and pubs or will this be similar as smoking rules?. Can we set an age limit or is it safe for children or only teachers in schools?, Is this the reason for the wars in afghanistan as no hidden oil but loads of poppy fields and ideal growing conditions?. Will it be VAT rated?. Will be interesting which is the first supermarket to see heroin I hope it is a bit hidden like the cigarettes which is going to be unseen soon on shelves. All the new addicts will be claiming incapacity benefits so we will all be paying more taxes but we can cut police numbers etc and therefore lower the pension crisis which is what the government really wants as well as the import duty.
21:19 on 20/11/2011
I am not old enough to remember 'prohibition' in the US. I am aware that it did massive favours to the criminals who provided what the public wanted.
All sorts of people want drugs, alcohol, tobacco, caffeine,
Some drugs are taxed some illegal, why not tax therm all and cut out the criminal?
00:04 on 21/11/2011
A common and poor comparison. To ban something enjoyed by perhaps 80% of the population and ingrained in the culture is never going to work. Specially something that people can literally make in the bath. 1/2 a pint of beer a day is actually good for your health.
Ref Caffeine I have never actually heard of a link between crime and cafe latte.
Tobacco is interesting. A blanket ban 30 years ago would never have worked. However these days its a habit thats fading away. Having said that if the government tax it too much then criminals move in to supply it more cheaply.
20:44 on 21/11/2011
Where I live I suspect the consumption of tobacco and alchol, as recorded by the shops is less than the norm, but then I live where there a lots of boats.
£6+ for a packet of 20 at the supermaket, £3or £4 if you know the 'right people', same for booze, of course if you go that route you may be open to consuming a fake and a very dangerous one at that, even more dangerous than the real product. and all the profits go to criminals.
If you want drugs that are illegal, they too are readily available, of course all the profits go, again, to criminals.
I do accept the argument that our government is criminal but that is a different issue.
Drugs, of whatever type, will be used despite what the law says, better to tax and get some money in the public purse and away from the criminals.
20:12 on 20/11/2011
There is no war on drugs how many times do you see on roadwars a policeman stop a drug user then let them go with a caution.A huge fine for all drug users or a clinic to get them off should be the choice and anyone selling drugs should get a minimum sentence of 10 years with no remmision
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19:29 on 20/11/2011
"war on drugs" is nothing more than a campaign stunt to radicalize and militarize our police force...