Ken Clarke's Push For Prisoners To Work 40-Hour Week Gains Momentum

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Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 22/11/2011 15:45 Updated: 28/11/2011 14:11

A call by justice secretary Kenneth Clarke to get prisoners to work 40 hour weeks has received the backing of one of the country's largest security companies, G4S, which said that re-offending rates could be cut significantly by introducing productive employment in jails.

However, proponents have a mountain to climb. Research by YouGov, commissioned by G4S, said that around 60% of small and medium-sized businesses were unaware of the working prisons initiative, and half said that they were not prepared to work with inmates.

This reluctance is denying companies the opportunity to access a cheap and motivated workforce and preventing prisoners from adding skills that will help them find work once they leave prison and reduce the risk of re-offending, G4S said.

Hedley Aylott founded Summit as a record company in 1995 to release the first single recorded in a UK prison. After five years of running music and arts programmes, Aylott decided to expand the company's offering into digital media, using inmates to staff the business.

"What we found was that there was some amazing talent locked away in prisons who are highly motivated, but when our projects came to an end there was no way for them to develop themselves," he said. "Our first office was inside the Wold Prison [in Yorkshire], it was our headquarters for the first six years of our life as a business. We started as a portacabin with two guys, then we took over the concrete gnome workshop."

Summit now employs 120 people in web design and online marketing, training prisoners to build websites and provide search engine optimisation. Its turnover is close to £30m and it has an international portfolio of clients.

Aylott is an evangelist for the potential of prison labour as a growth driver for small businesses, and said that the reason that schemes have failed to take off is a combination of a preconceived notion that inmates are only suitable for low-skilled work, and a lack of commercial acumen within the prison service.

"Prisons are run by people who run prisons, not businesses," he said. "They don't have a commercial bone in their body. They should stick at running prisons. What's lacking is proper commercial enterprise which can see the opportunity to employ talented and motivated individuals.

"If you just want teabags put in boxes or headphones put in little bags, then it doesn't really matter, does it. Prisons have just been pleased to get any work at all, but they haven't worked out how to step up and get high quality, high skilled businesses."

G4S said that prisoners who have obtained commercial skills and experience have dramatically lower reoffending rates - below 5% - compared to the national average of 50%.

"The general thing about prison, you usually do pointless courses that don't lead to anything. You'll do half a qualification that doesn't mean anything on the outside," 'Matt', a former inmate of the Wold prison and employee of Summit, said.

"I know people who have been in 10, 12, 15 times. By the end of the day they're reoffending. They've got nowhere to live, they've got no job, they've got no prospects. It's pretty sad really. It's the last taboo. You can't discriminate against people for anything other than a criminal record now. Obviously I understand that some offences are sensitive, but there's got to be something that's mutually beneficial for society as a whole."

The choice for taxpayers and businesses, Matt said, is straightforward: "Would you rather this person had a job or would you rather they were on the dole - which you're paying for - or be back in prison - which you're paying double for. To me it's common sense."

It is this argument that both Aylott and G4S' head of community services and interventions, Simon Newberry, level against accusations that such schemes could exacerbate the problems of joblessness at the base of an already tight labour market. More than 2.6m people are out of work in the UK, with Northern towns, including Hull, near to the Wold prison, suffering more than most.

"Yes, these [businesses] are providing significant advantages to the prisoners, and for every prisoner we can help go back into employment and away from re-offending, again, it has to be a very good thing for the British economy. The British economy is currently wasting £13bn per year on the cost of re-offending. Anything that we can do to chip in has to be a good thing,' Newberry said.

"We pay a fair wage to the prisoners, and we strongly encourage them to pay out of that wage into things like victim support and also towards saving schemes which they can access when they are released from prison. It is less than the minimum wage… but it is a bit misleading to look at the cost structure of a business operating in the community and a business operating inside a prison," he said.

The focus is on creating businesses that would otherwise not have been economically viable, or that have gone offshore where labour is cheaper, Newberry said. "Unfortunately there are 88,000 people in prison as we speak, and there's a lot of inherently good skills in those people, and when tapped into can provide some really good skills for local businesses."

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07:27 AM on 11/25/2011
I think that It is a sensible idea to utilise prisoners by allowing them to put something back into society. Prisoner learn very little locked in a cell for 23 hours a day, and it would go a long way towards rehabilitating them back into society. Many of these offenders have never worked a day in their lives, so at least it would give them an idea of what the rest of society has do do on an everyday basis. They should receive a minimum wage and the rest of the money earned should go to their victims.
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lacabrera
08:35 PM on 11/24/2011
I think that the next time we go to war ,we need to send the prisioners first ,as scouts ,if they survive then we can let them go into the free sociaty ,let them work and payback what they owe and pay taxes!!!!
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lacabrera
08:30 PM on 11/24/2011
So what about the 99% Of WSO that are unemploy ,what are they going to do ,and the poor Mexicans that are doing must of those jobs ?
11:56 AM on 11/24/2011
I sincerely believe that all the farms that have gone bust or are struggling to survive
would be ideal for prison labour to help out.
They would be out in the fresh air and eating good home cooked food and also the foriegn
labour could be dispensed with for picking and harvesting crops.
Come on Ken Clarke do your bit for agriculture.
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gumpo
11:04 PM on 11/23/2011
Maybe they ought to get the prisoners to do hard labour building new roads,railways etc, and their pay would be 3 meals a day and a dry cell to sleep in at night !!
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gumpo
10:58 PM on 11/23/2011
When I read some of the above statements in this article it makes me laugh. People blaming the Govt for not providing proper job guidence to prisoners, saying that Group 4 run prisons and shouldn't be part of the setting up of businesses programme (oh no, only the best for inmates) And the suggestion that prisoners should be more highly trained !
About right for this Country..."IF YOU WANT SOMETHING GIVEN TO YOU FOR FREE...GET IN TROUBLE" We really have lost it as a Country, it's everyones fault, except the sh*ts who cause all the problems !!
08:23 PM on 11/23/2011
I worked 40 hrs + a week whilst serving the last 9 months of a prison sentence and can honestly say having a job was the only thing that kept me from re-offending, as it gave me a regular income which paid for amongst other things accommodation upon my release instead of having to rely on government handouts which ironically i wasn't entitled to because i was working. So yes this is a good scheme, but it all depends on the individual, as there will always be those out to exploit the opportunity regardless of ruining it for everyone else.

Also no it wont be taking jobs away from the unemployed as the work tends to be minimum wage, manual labour which are available in pretty much in every town and city but are 'un-desirable' to most job seekers.

And yes they should replace life imprisonment with the death sentence, as the cost to keep some of the nations worst criminals in prisons is a crime in its self.
05:19 PM on 11/23/2011
Pay them overtime and get them to work 100 hours a week after all what else have they got to do?
03:57 PM on 11/23/2011
The only way they should let prisoners 'work' is for the government to set up some kind of independant working scheme that means prisoners work in some way every day and that pays for the prisons instead of us paying Millions a year to keep people who have done disgusting things watered and fed. It would never happen though the government rely on taxpayers too much.
03:48 PM on 11/23/2011
Looks like more cheap labour to me.Cameron really is pulling out all the stops to drive down wages.
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01:44 PM on 11/23/2011
someone has suggested that we hang murderers rapists and paedophiles that may not be a bad idea, there are times when genuinely innocent people have been found guilty, how do we tell the loved ones of the innocent that their relative was not guilty I suggest that more stringent tests be carried out on the accused such as brain scans and better lie detecting methods used and if possible better examination of any accuser of age and ability be carried out.Many times people have been and still are being sentenced for crimes solely on the word of persons who have their own agenda. The prosecution and the defence will go to any length to say or do whatever is nessecary for their side and a lot of truth is conveniently lost along the way and very important evidence is not allowed in court. When the public is more than satisfied that trials are 100% fair then the book should be rewritten on punishment, a life for a life and castration with a very long prison sentence for rape and as for sexual intercourse with an innocent child then sentence should be passed by every man and women say over sixteen for castration and life improsinment or death within three months and if a person mollests a child then they should be helped first and foremost for their problem while doing a prison sentence before they can be released regardless of the length of the prison term.
12:59 PM on 11/23/2011
there.s plenty of rubbish to be picked up get them to work on the county side beaches and other places that has been neglected not jobs that the young and unemployed can do for a wage and self esteem . i look around and see how untidy and run down this country has become it.s sad. so get them to do a bit and not get every thing they want in prison it,s a laugh calling it that , it,s more like a holiday camp especialy when your let out to father a child on your day release.
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cynic123
12:44 PM on 11/23/2011
If all had to work 40hours a week Clark would be in for a real shock he will have to incress his workload by 75%
01:17 PM on 11/23/2011
It would be interesting to know if you have any evidence that Clark only works about 23 hours a week. I have no personal knowledge of his working hours but knowledge of the sort of working hours required of a cabinet minister. From that I would estimate he works much longer than 40 hours per week - and that at an age of over 70 years.
12:18 PM on 11/23/2011
Wow great idea, prisoners get to do a full time job whilst people who have not commited any crime are unemployed. With unemployment at it's highest ever this idea is madness.
02:48 PM on 11/23/2011
cheers mate sense at last but it will not catch on (sense I mean)
11:57 AM on 11/23/2011
Why only 40 hours, ? make it 60 or more.
12:16 PM on 11/23/2011
prisoners could be waged and the majority of their pay goes towards their keep. Prisoners wether we like it or not are part of society and a product of society, al the hang&em and flog em brigade should look to themselves to see why they are so angry and why they have to use prisoners as a target to vent their anger.