Strikes Could Cost Half A Billion And Lead To Job Losses, Say Government

Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 24/11/11 07:22 GMT Updated: 25/11/11 17:20 GMT

Strikes

The government has ramped up its rhetoric ahead of next week's public sector strikes, saying the action could hurt jobs and cost the economy half a billion pounds.

In a briefing session with journalists, Danny Alexander said there would be no more concessions from the government as there was "no money on the table." The chief secretary to the Treasury said he may bring his child to work with him as strikes are expected to close schools.

But TUC head Brendan Barber said the figures were "fantasy economics" and ministers were using the strike as a "desperate excuse" for low growth.

“Dedicated public sector workers take no pleasure in taking action next week but the blame for this strike lies squarely with the government for failing to engage in serious talks until unions decided on a day of action", he said in a statement on Thursday.

The comments came after the news that the Home Office has contacted government employees to ask if they will cover ports and borders while the UK Border Agency workers strike over pensions.

And staff working abroad in immigration and in embassies have been contacted about strike cover.

The agency faced pressure recently over relaxed borders. The row led to the suspension of UK Border Force official Brodie Clark, who maintains he did not overstretch his remit when relaxing checks on some passengers entering Britain.

The most senior official at the Home Office, Dame Helen Ghosh, has fully backed Theresa May's account of the UK Border Fiasco.

PCS general secretary Mark Serwotka said the plea for civil servants to work on borders was "an insult". "It is an insult to hard-working border force staff that the government is scratching round trying to fill skilled posts with people who are essentially volunteers."

A UK Border Agency spokesman said: "The security of the UK border remains our top priority and we explore all options to ensure we minimise any disruption caused by planned union action."

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The government has ramped up its rhetoric ahead of next week's public sector strikes, saying the action could hurt jobs and cost the economy half a billion pounds. In a briefing session with journa...
The government has ramped up its rhetoric ahead of next week's public sector strikes, saying the action could hurt jobs and cost the economy half a billion pounds. In a briefing session with journa...
 
 
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HTM
08:56 AM on 11/27/2011
Here is a possible solution to the problem for those who maybe reading this comment. The people of the UK are the core of the government and helps to supports their way of life. To prevent a work stoppage first find out what the people want to maintain the workforce? Focus more on the people causes and need? Force incompetent leaders to step down or remove them from office? Hold town hall meeting to listen to the people causes and how to adapt current system to rapidly changing societies.
08:10 AM on 11/26/2011
Sack the lot of them!

They are lucky to have jobs in this economic climate inflicted on us by Incapability Brown and rEd Balls!
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
10:27 PM on 11/25/2011
This lot have been planning this since Labour were voted out of power and you can be sure its not going to be just a one-day strike because the unions have got £millions to keep it going for a while. On the plus side, traffic wardens and car park attendents are on strike so we'll be avble to park for free!
07:48 PM on 11/25/2011
how can ppl say no one really wants to strike . THIS GOVERNMENT WILL NOT LISTEN TO THE WORKING PPL . what els can thay do. there is a new trick in the GOVERNMENT CONTROLD MEDIA try to make the striking workers FEEL GUILTY ABOUT STRIKING but this will not work . i remember when this country had a three day working week and power cuts it was hard but the government was thrown out of office . this government deserves the same ppl must stand together against this DICTATORSHIP. WE NEED A NEW PARTY TO LEAD THIS ONCE GREAT COUNTRY A STRONG AND HONEST PARTY THAT WILL DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE .AND ABOVE ALL LISTEN TO THE REAL ENGLISH PPL OF THIS COUNTRY. amen
05:13 PM on 11/25/2011
Theres been lots of time to sort this one out and no one really wants to strike.There will be a settlement in the end so lets get one before it costs alot of money and disruption at a time when its not needed.Government and Union show your worth and sort it out NOW.
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tmm77625
The winner is the one who stops first
04:13 AM on 11/25/2011
Ahh, nice to see more public service workers striking in another country, demanding that the rest of society pony up ever more money to fund their demands. Wonder if they will behave better than the Greeks.
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Vapula
Failure is not an option
12:31 AM on 11/25/2011
If there is no more money there is no more money and no matter how long people strike that will not change. The unions should not expect the rest of us to subsidize them. They should remember what happened with the coal miners when Scargill demanded wage increases so that the public had to subsidize them: the price of coal not being able to sustain the wages. The backlash was no more miners.
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NJP1
10:39 PM on 11/24/2011
Fantasy economics is right.
Neither the government nor the unions understand that the economy is not about money We do not function in a ‘money’ economy, our economy is based on energy input.
Until now we have had a prosperous economy because we’ve had a surplus of cheap primary energy. It was cheap because we cherry-picked all the easy-to-get-at stuff, set fire to it to drive our machines and used the products of those machines to pay ourselves ever-increasing wages. We called it prosperity, but it was a wheeze that depended on the infinite growth of fuel burning, and we used it to grow more food, pensions for life and a million other derivatives of our oil-age, forgetting that the whole thing has existed for only 100 years. (The first pensions were paid out in 1908).
A century ago, when we kicked off our current age of plenty, oil was cheap and abundant, industrial output grew as we pumped more and more oil, and built bigger machines to burn it. Burning oil coal and gas was ‘Gross Domestic product’, burning it faster was called ‘growth’.
It also gave us a unique way of dealing with debt: We could mortgage our future (pension payouts) because oil-driven industry always made hefty profits.
That growth has now stopped so there are no pensions to look forward to.
Infinite demand has run into the wall of finite resources.
http://www.yourmedievalfuture.com/
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
10:46 PM on 11/25/2011
The economy is ALL about money it powers and lubricates the machinery of enterprise and growth. In a high tax environment the machine labours to turn, in a low tax regime the engine runs freely. So all they have to do to get the economy running again is to let the people keep more of their own money.
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NJP1
11:02 PM on 11/25/2011
no--the economy is all about energy, to keep the wheels of industry turning they have to keep finding cheap oil, unfortunately there isn't any left
money is just tokenised energy
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
07:55 PM on 11/24/2011
The Politics of Fear in real money, with added Perspective.


Strikes could cost UK £500 Mn!!


Energy prices soar due to ghost meters and greedy companies!

Now compare this to...

UK cost to belong to EU (last calculated 2008) was £65 Bn.
Of course that's way out of date with the new bailouts/IMF commitments, new taxes and regulations (especially on energy), etc; I'd double it and call it a fair guestimate.  Anyone who thinks Camoron is serious about 'clawing powers back from EU' or not going into eurozone is nuts; several EU changes will make it easy and quick and probably referendum-free.

UK bank stock taken for bailout; £65.8 Bn, now worth £21.4 Bn. 
Osborne could have sold it in January 2011 and recoup the full cost, but the Trust Fund Kid decided to be the Tory saviour and wait until there was a big bonanza...ooops.

Just a few things the UK government doesn't want you to notice.
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Samurai Cowboy
Make it sew
05:44 PM on 11/24/2011
England lead the way with the Industrail Revolution and railways? Isn't it about time that England leads the way again and bans unions? These organizations are communist in nature, and their members are lazy, incompetent and here in the States, highly overpaid. It is time to make unions as extinct ans dinosaurs.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
07:38 PM on 11/24/2011
SamuraiCowboy, let's just advocate a return to the good old days of Dickens' England! Ban collective bargaining, get rid of those pesky safety nets and NHS, no more free education at all (who needs it with no jobs anyway for UK citizens?) and why not bring back those debt prisons and work houses?

If it was that great a system, how come the Scandinavian countries, France and Germany all have collective bargaining, socialized safety nets and decent economies (w/FR and DE, the economic part is dicey)? 

Hint; stop reinventing the wheel and go with what works.
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NJP1
10:42 PM on 11/24/2011
you forgot about sending small boys up chimneys
03:05 AM on 11/25/2011
Teachers, firefighters, police officers etc are all lazy, incompetent communists? Grow up.
05:30 PM on 11/24/2011
Another miss guided cost here I would think. Where on earth do they get that figure from? Mind you if they have been paying £1 a pint for school milk for years it just seems you put a figure in front of the government and they pay it.
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07:17 PM on 11/24/2011
Yes! Pick a number.. double it.. add a couple of zero's on the end of it then call the process "accountancy." Cammo and Osbourne just do not live in the real world.
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hg wells
04:53 PM on 11/24/2011
500 million is chump change compared to what the banks stole.
04:23 PM on 11/24/2011
a lecture from francis fraude who will trouser a 731 thousand pension pot,this deal was sorted in 2008 ,cameron and louise are the ones commiting gross irresponsibility to the people of this country,over 1 million youngsters out of work,well done towel folder your small state is nearly up and running,not be long before the dinosaurs like leigh and bone start calling for an end to the minimum wage,
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07:19 PM on 11/24/2011
"no­t be long before the dinosaurs like leigh and bone start calling for an end to the minimum wage"

You're a wee bit behind the times... A Tory minister suggested that very thing a week or two back.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
09:10 PM on 11/24/2011
WLQ, seems to me it would be faster if the UK just trashed the whole concept of wages and benefits and went to the old tried-and-true system: Serfs and Lords. Every UK man, woman and child is designated a rich person (who then becomes a Lord) and becomes an 'employee for life' at say tops £20/wk, 6 days/week, 10hrs/day (porridge for lunch, deducted from pay), option to sleep in barns or fields.  No NHS, no employment tribunals (allow flogging,  burial on greenbelt land when necessary), no free education, no courts, no voting, no benefits, no need for cheap migrant labour. The US is only a year or two away from totally disenfranchised citizens totally without safety nets, without even the benefits of slavery...but UK can get there if it makes the effort.  Look at GR and IT, they'll beat you there if you don't pay attention!
11:48 PM on 11/24/2011
sorry i missed chope out 2009,drink eh
04:13 PM on 11/24/2011
I have to apologise to everyone, I made a mistake when I said that the £50million we pay the EU a day added up to £2 billion £600 million a year...In fact the Sum is £18 billion £250 million a year!! Now David Cameron please tell me why we are closing hospital wards and old pleople care homes just because you say you cannot afford to employ more nurses, Policemen or doctors yet you give OUR money to scrounging other eastern european country who don't themselves put a penny in the Kitty!! £18 billion £250 million would pay for a hell of a lot of nurses, doctors, police, care workers, Your goverment cannot find a few measely pounds for a handful of people dying of cancer to pay for special drugs that would prolong their lives by years not weeks or months... you can find the money to pay £50 million a day...every 24 hours we pay £50 million pounds to the EU so the the EMPs can line their pockets! You should be ashamed to show your face, How dare you... how dare you...Last year you gave OAPs a 25p increase itheir pensions yes you gave you and your cronies an inflation bust rise... not to mention your pensions!!! You cannot afford bullet proof vest for our troops in Afghanistan which would cost a pittance for what we put into the EU, can't you ask the EU for funds to protect our troops?
03:21 PM on 11/24/2011
Bring our troops home from Afganistan and Iraq, where they are being employed and killed for no obvious reason, and deploy them to man our borders...
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
07:59 PM on 11/24/2011
Unfortunately, there are way too many rich folks making way too much money on dead soldiers...and they pay the elected officials to work for them far more than the citizens can afford.  And those BA jobs are sooo good for rewarding family and friends for their loyalty.
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tmm77625
The winner is the one who stops first
04:22 AM on 11/25/2011
Ummm, didn't the Brit troops all come out of Iraq in 2009?
09:30 AM on 11/25/2011
Not all, but your right, the main force did, sorry, still had iraq on my "Wars that are a waste of life and time" list..