General Election 2012? Opinion Poll Gains For Tories Prompt Speculation

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The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 14/12/11 09:34 GMT Updated: 14/12/11 10:21 GMT

Opinion polls on voting intention suggest the Conservatives are continuing to slightly out-perform Labour, but the Lib Dems now find themselves neck and neck with UKIP and most people don't seem to trust Ed Miliband on the economy.

A Reuters/Ipsos Mori poll put the Tories on 41 percent, while backing for Labour slipped two points to 39 percent. The surge in Tory support is significant because they appear to have picked up 7 points since the last such poll was taken.

Meanwhile a Comres poll for The Independent puts the two main parties neck-and-neck on 38 percent, but also sugests the public backs the coalition government’s approach to cutting the deficit by a margin of three to one.

In this poll Labour have lost two points and the Tories have gained two points. The Lib Dems are stuck on 12 points, neck and neck with UKIP. This isn't the worst polling for Nick Clegg's party in recent months, but it would still lead to electoral wipeout if it were translated into a general election.

A separate, unscientific poll, suggests a possible collapse in support for Ed Miliband.

The percentage of LabourList readers rating Miliband as Good or Excellent has fallen to just 26% down from 40% last month and a high of 59% in the wake of the phone hacking scandal in July. 41% think that Miliband’s performance has been Poor or Very Poor, with 33% considering his performance to be average.

Labourlist believes the strikes on the 30th of November have been damaging for Ed Miliband.

Meanwhile the subject of an early general election has people gossiping at Westminster, and bookmakers William Hill have slashed their odds of it happening from 4/1 to 3/1. Some Westminster insiders are speculating about whether David Cameron - clearly supported by a majority of the public on his European veto - might decide the coalition has become unworkable and go to the country early.

Achieving this wouldn't be as easy as all that, though, since the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, passed in September, means the date for the next election is fixed at May 2015. That doesn't mean the government couldn't come to a premature end, though, as there could still be a motion within the House to call an early election - or more damaging for the Tories - a disorderly collapse of the coalition and a lost vote of confidence.

However on Tuesday night Nick Clegg reportedly told backbench Lib Dem MPs that he had no intention of causing the government to collapse, because an early general election would wipe out his own party.

The Telegraph reports Clegg as saying: “I don’t want to be the last leader of the Liberal Democrats by provoking a general election today.”

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02:17 PM on 12/16/2011
Slight problem with this article - we have fixed term parliaments so there needs to be a no confidence vote plus impossibility of alternative government forming.
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Adnan Al-Daini
03:41 PM on 12/15/2011
The problem is not who the leader is. The problem is the lack of credible policies that lie at the heart of the problem for Labour. It has no vision. It has articulated no alternative policies that are up to the job of tackling the immense problems faced by capitalism today. Do they have a policy on bringing a fairer distribution of wealth in a rich country like Britain? A report by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), referenced in the Guardian (link below), concludes that "income inequality among working-age people has risen faster in Britain than in any other rich nation since the mid-1970s." What are their policies on reducing unemployment, particularly among the young, that has now topped one million? What are their policies on reforming the banks and financial institutions? What are their policies to bring a more equitable balance between capital and labour? What are their policies to address the democratic deficit by wresting control from the "moneymen"?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/05/riots-return-young-archbishop-canterbury
08:43 PM on 12/14/2011
Watched Newsnight last night a brilliant discussion on economics by three brilliant women if they are correct in their views that govenments should be looking at private sector debt and not public sector cuts,and the people of the country should engage on how money is used.
George Osborne and the Con-Dem supporters will have to look again at their views.
This is where Ed is falling down,he should start the process of explaining to the british people Gordon brown was right and why.
03:08 PM on 12/14/2011
I truely hate the Tories as i believe they cant be trusted (no jokes about all polititians cant).
But at the moment they are the only party that sem to care for this country. Where i dont agree with all policies, and never will, i think the PM is showing he knows more about what hes doing than some of his rivals, although that isnt much or a compliment.
Now to call an early election i think would back fire on him, i say this because he would have to come up with policies to convince everyone to vote for him, and most of his policies he promised in the last election have been shown to have been all talk.
He claimed he would have us debt free by the end of his term, but after the autumn budget, he will leave us in nearly as much debt as when he started, and we have suffered massively, with no benifit from the cuts made.
06:31 PM on 12/15/2011
I'll tell you what Tory policy is - and it has been the same for the 75 years I have been alive - 'The Rich shall inherit the Earth and may God help the rest of you because we don't give a damn!'
08:05 AM on 12/16/2011
It does seem that way at times.
03:53 PM on 12/16/2011
but ohh wouldn't you like to be rich .
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02:58 PM on 12/14/2011
Vote for who? All the main political parties are no more than technocrats and managers working for the financial market system.
New Labour sold out their socialist principles under Tony Blair in order to appeal to 'middle england' (now technocrats). The Tories "Conserve" the wealth of the elite (have been no more than technocrates since the 80's). Liberals! no credibility anymore. BNP and UKIP are no more than xenophobic little englander movements. The Greens, sadly, have no economic clout. The Anarchist movement is not political by defenition - in Anarchism there is no Government to blame (or praise) responsibilty falls upon us; cant see 'the public' going for this.
Perhaps Zizek is right "see you in Communism, or see you in Hell"?
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05:12 PM on 12/14/2011
Vote for who? All the main political parties are no more than technocrat­s and managers working for the financial market system. This sounds like it applies to frequently to the U.S. as well. Who is the U.S. Congress working for, if not Wall Street primarily?
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05:29 PM on 12/14/2011
Exactly. There is an interesting piece here if you want to read it. It applies to the USA as well. http://michael-hudson.com/2011/12/europe%E2%80%99s-transition-from-social-democracy-to-oligarchy/
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mokgee
Sabu.Satsang, Samsara, Solitude...
02:26 PM on 12/14/2011
Speculation, the greatest asset of all politicians, especially people like Rubberband of labour. They had years to right all the wrongs and failed in every one of them. liberals will remain quiet in the knowledge they will be the first to go under, never to return. Labour have no chance, leaving only the Tories, to get the country back, because if they don't UKIP will. Pressure is building at exactly the right time, bring on the war of words we are revelling in it. signs are looking good but not for Europe at last...........
03:14 PM on 12/14/2011
The thing about an early election is, it will give the Tories more chance against UKIP.
The longer they wait, the stronger the support for UKIp will become.
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03:41 PM on 12/14/2011
Ah, the great UKIP Breakthrough. Any day now. Honest. Beyond a few well-recognised strongholds in the South-West of England, UKIP is an irrelevance to English Politics at the National Level. I don't think that any UKIP candidate actually retained their deposit in 2010 ? Long Before the UKIP Breakthrough, the Tory Party will have been quietly subverted by the Hang-And-Flog Anti-Europe wing, the referendum will have been called and England departs its merry way from the EU. What happens to UKIP Then - do they disband ? UKIP stand as much chance of getting an elected MP (not ruling out one or two defectors in this parliament) as I have of being elected Mayor of Beijing !
02:12 PM on 12/14/2011
"Opinion polls on voting intention suggest the Conservatives are continuing to slightly out-perform Labour,"

If by 'slightly out-perform' you mean consistently come behind then fair enough.
01:11 PM on 12/14/2011
Labour have more chance of getting struck bu lightning than getting back in power, their polices on the EU and immigration are detering millions.
02:23 PM on 12/14/2011
Then I would suggest that Milliband, Balls et al invest heavily in copper rods and don't go outside in the rain.
07:04 PM on 12/14/2011
And for one more fact the inflow will continue do you think any member will turn the illegals back at their borders or just send them on you pick you seem to have all the answers about Labour now if i was Sarkozy Merkel id be doing a May trick send em on their you go UK and theres plenty more to come
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12:41 PM on 12/14/2011
Turkeys do not vote for Christmas.
The LDs see the anihilation of the Party in Scotland and will hold on for grim life to avoid retreating to the days of Grimond and Thorpe with single-figure MPs. I wouldn't even fancy Clegg's chance of holding his seat at the moment.

I'd hate to be an incumbent Scottish LD MP.A few of the "old guard" (Bruce, Campbell, Kennedy) will be indicating fairly soon to Call-Him-Nick that they will be expecting to join the Ermine Vermin in the dissolution Honours List to avoid the humiliation.

Cameron won't dissolve the coalition agreement either. The LDs are proving far too useful as Human Shields just now, and in addition, come the 2015 GE, he will point and say "We wanted to do more but were held back by these wishy Liberals". Epic Win !

The Labour Party are in Turmoil. Millibrand is a weak and ineffectual leader.It is clear that the internicine jockeying for position in the next Leadership fight is already openly under way.

There won't be a "United Kingdom" general election until the agreement expires in 2015.

There won't BE a "United Kingdom" as the region formerly known as North Britain will be Long Gone.

You can maybe write to us and let us know how you are getting on. Any letter addressed to "Scotland", either at the UN or Brussels, should get to us. Sometime. Assuming that you haven't privatised the Mail Service along with your NHS.
01:41 PM on 12/14/2011
As usual, Chiefy, the Liberals are all over the place with their policies. They're taking the voters for mugs by saying anything they think people want to hear - then wonder why the public have turned against them.

Take the latest example reported in Newsnet Scotland today - In London they support the Labour/Tory Scotland Bill in it's present form. Meanwhile, their spokesperson in Scotland, Willie Rennie, is claiming that the call from Scotland's people for more powers than what are on offer are in line with the Liberals 'Home Rule' policy.

The Liberals will hold on to this coalition by their fingernails if need be. Both they and the Tories know that the only options available to the Liberals is to remain as Tory lapdogs or face the wrath of the voters and the oblivion that would bring.
03:19 PM on 12/14/2011
Yes we will be able to send letters to Scotland to the Eu in Brussells if you go it alone. As we are all aware this new treaty the Eu wants to bring in states that any country that falls outside strict financial rules will have to hand power to the EU.
May i surgest, better the devil you know?
12:11 PM on 12/14/2011
Bring it on! Let us sink Red Ed and his 'something for nothing' party once and for all!
02:19 PM on 12/14/2011
I sincerely hope you get paid to spread this pre-packed party sloganeering rubbish.
05:33 PM on 12/14/2011
Oh dear a rare breed - a red Ed supporter
11:41 AM on 12/14/2011
Do it.
11:26 AM on 12/14/2011
The Tories are on 41%. Really - where was the poll conducted, in Chelsea?

The Conservative Party lied all the way through the last election, promising to protect the NHS, and to 'cut the deficit, not the NHS.' I wasn't at all surprised when they both began the process for the privatisation of the NHS, and, the cutting of tens of thousands of staff. For this alone they should be kicked out of government as frauds, cheats and liars.

Another election couldn't come soon enough. Labour may have alot to make up for and Milliband may be at the moment less than hoped for but I would vote for them if Kermit the Frog was leader of the party - anything to get rid of this appalling government.
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11:03 AM on 12/14/2011
If the Eton Boy calls an election before the 5 year term they trumpeted so loudly at the start of their term of office, he will show himself to be no better than a two faced opportunist. The coalition was agreed and publicly declared to be a "full-term" arrangement for the "good of the country." First sign of real trouble and it all starts to look a little shaky now and the sabres begin rattling.

Can any of them be trusted in Westminster? There are 2 possible answers that I can see to that question. 1) No. and 2) Absolutely No.
12:15 PM on 12/14/2011
with you on this one big man
10:49 AM on 12/14/2011
The biggest test of Ed Milliband's leadership may come if the coalition disintegrates and he is asked to support a motion to bring about an early general election.
The biggest test of David Cameron's leadership may come if he is forced to decide to go to the polls early despite the poor economy.
We discuss this issue on our pages - follow the link: http://www.allthatsleft.co.uk/2011/12/general-election-2012/
12:01 PM on 12/14/2011
Just read your blog, ATL.

If the Liberals had a spine at all they'd dump the coalition and leave the Tories with a minority government, only supporting them on a vote by vote basis.

I think Miliband, though making the right tribal noises to appease his core vote, would accept that. I don't see him pushing for an election right now. Labour are in debt up to their ears, funding another election so soon may be beyond them.
10:37 AM on 12/14/2011
The Liberals will back this government all the way to preserve their 5 years of fame, if there were to be an election next year the LibDems would become extinct.
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11:10 AM on 12/14/2011
The LibDems sealed their own virtual extinction when they signed up to the coalition deal last year. An election now would only hasten the final nailing down of the coffin.