Stephen Lawrence Murder: Attorney General To Review 'Unduly Lenient' Sentences for Killers

Gary Dobson David Norris

First Posted: 05/01/12 14:48 GMT Updated: 09/01/12 17:03 GMT   PA

Britain's top law officer is reviewing whether the jail terms handed out to Stephen Lawrence's killers are "unduly lenient".

A formal request to the Attorney General was made after the trial judge suggested he would have doubled the minimum sentence of Gary Dobson and David Norris if the law had allowed.

A member of the public applied for the review yesterday within hours of the killers being jailed at the Old Bailey.

A spokesman for the Attorney General said the individual who sparked the review was unconnected to the Lawrence family.

The Attorney General has no choice but to review the sentence as part of his public interest function.

"Anybody can request that we look at the case," the spokesman said. "We will consider it in the normal way."

The office has received just one referral so far, the spokesman said.

The development came as police assessed new information as part of efforts to hunt down other suspects in the 1993 racist murder.

Scotland Yard has denied claims the investigation was being scaled down, with Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe saying other suspects will not be allowed to "rest easily in their beds".

Dobson, 36, who is already serving a five-year sentence for drug-dealing, was sentenced to at least 15 years and two months whilst Norris, 35, was given a minimum of 14 years and three months for the murder, which the judge said was a "terrible and evil crime".

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Britain's top law officer is reviewing whether the jail terms handed out to Stephen Lawrence's killers are "unduly lenient". A formal request to the Attorney General was made after the trial judge ...
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08:28 AM on 01/06/2012
so how about a review and re-sentence for the killers of jamie bulger or the helper of ian huntley (maxine carr) who along with bulgers killers are being protected for life
majdf18148
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08:10 AM on 01/06/2012
I am an advocate of a life sentence meaning life in most cases of murder albeit I do think there is always the exception to the rule and the law should have the wherewithall to deal with such instances that warrant clemency where exceptional circumstances prevail. In this particular case I think the judge has acted correctly within the law and the sentences passed are commensurate with the crime, given the constraints within which he had to pass sentence. In normal circumstances I would have no hesitation in declaring those responsible for this hideous murder should serve a true life sentence but even Mrs Lawrence has accepted the judge's rational for the sentences. Remember they are MINIMUM sentences and they can be kept in prison if the Parole Board so decides. We, who are posting on this subject, can of course sit here dispassionately passing comment, Stephen Lawrence was not our son, brother or friend. I am however totally in awe of the dignity and fortitude shown by Stephen's parents who have relentlessly pursued the killers of their son, a young man who had everything to live for. His death was a savage indictment of a band of pyschotic, hate filled thugs who must ALL receive their just punishment for their terrible crime.
08:05 AM on 01/06/2012
I think its time for all normal thinking human beings to push home the point to the government that we are all sick and tired of seeing offenders released some without even being charged. Others let off with ridiculously lenient sentences and the top of the scale like these 2 murderers given jail terms that do not have any bearing on how long they will actually spend in prison. I suppose if the judge had given the ACTUAL time that these 2 would serve in prison it would sound pretty pathetic to all of us. Minimum term means nothing in the modern legal system and I doubt very much that these 2 will do more than 7 to 8 years and some of that will more than likely be in a cushy open prison with day release.
01:31 AM on 01/06/2012
When they got rid of the death penalty. They said the sentence would be life without chance of release. Now we release murderers back into the community. Over 60 of which have re offended. Makes you think doesn't it. Then again everyone deserves a second chance.....apart from the victims of crime.
01:20 AM on 01/06/2012
The problem with murder is that the deceased person never gets the opportunity to say what they would want. I think it's probably safe to say they would rather be alive and have the opportunity to lead a nornal life. Yet today's supposedly enlightened society today goes to great pains to consider what is fair and right for the perpetrators. I think you can guess where my sympathies lie.
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PhoenixLady
05:06 AM on 01/06/2012
I think it's pretty safe to say that you have no clue what the dead "think".
01:12 AM on 01/06/2012
The law has its rules and they cannot (and should not) be bent to suit any one. Surely they should never be sentenced as adults because they were not adults when they commited the offence.
If the judges did otherwise in order to please the Lawrence family it will be unlawful and will set a very bad precedent
Even if Parliament changed the law so that people could be sentenced as adults for offences commited when they were kids it would be a wrong move. The relevant law would become unfair and immoral
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Louige Damion
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01:50 AM on 01/06/2012
Cool Nyerho, that is, until the victim would happen to be someone close to YOU who YOU cared about. Then all this rationality would fly out the window and empathy would rule. Now tell us it ain't so!
02:19 AM on 01/06/2012
Well bowled. But my wicket is still intact .I am blocking with a straight bat and the ball is well grounded. I would refer to Mrs Lawrence when she said she understood why the judge could not do more. She also did NOT mention that he SHOULD have done more This is because she recognised the boundaries of the law(and very possibly the morality of the principle). That was the mother of Stephen speaking rationally in spite of the empathy for the son. How was that?
However you are not totally wrong because time has healed;slightly. I am sure she could have reacted in a different manner if the case was decided close the time Stephen was killed. May be emphaty could have taken over who knows,
12:14 AM on 01/06/2012
Regarding the idea that the sentence relates to the law at the time of the offence, supposing someone (hypothetically) had just been found guilty for a murder committed when the death penalty was still in force. Would a judge today have sentenced him to death, citing the fact that this was the applicable penalty? Interesting thought!
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Elrancho2
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11:58 PM on 01/05/2012
The murder of Stephen Lawrence was one of the reasons I left England for good. Although I didn't know him personally, it was the last straw and I didn't want to remain in a place that had become so infested with racism and ignorance - even though it was the country of my birth. For the last 13 years I've lived in a country where the population is predominantly black. I feel safer, more at peace and almost every day I come into contact with people who are beautiful and / or brilliant. Rest in peace, Stephen.
12:07 AM on 01/06/2012
And there is no lack of applicants coming the other way to fill your place!
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Elrancho2
Nature boy
12:32 AM on 01/06/2012
I know. It's amazing.
11:47 PM on 01/05/2012
Whilst there are complaints on what appears to be lenient sentances in relation to this case, I tend to wonder why there wasn't even a fraction of this outpouring of emotion in the case of the murder of Robert Hamill? Taking into account the police were in their armoured wagon only yards away from the beating. Not very difficult detective work needed there. Or does the death of someone in a sectarian act count less than the death of a racist act?
12:36 AM on 01/06/2012
Because the English tend not to get worked up about the murder of an Irishman. They wouldn't dare express it so bluntly or openly as this, but inside their heads it's "just another murder in Northern Ireland". Was Robert Hamill's death worse because the RUC did nothing than say Robert McCartney where a number of city councillors were present and either did nothing or got stuck in to help kill him? Was it worse than Lenny Kaitcer's?

Was the so called "shoot to kill policy" worse than the IRA's "Shoot to kill policy"?

One thing I would say about Northern Ireland's deaths is this: the population as a whole have taken a collective and deliberate decision to draw a line under the whole mess, taken a collective decision not to pursue any more murderers for crimes committed during that awful period, and to accept the will of voters even if they choose to elect ex-murderers into positions of responsibility, power, and authority.

That has been a hard thing to do, it was not done lightly, but it was the right thing to do, because just about everyone was involved to some extent in the process of making that decision.

Robert Hamill's death formed one small part of the momentum to call "halt" to that.

And I say "amen".

But I really don't think the cases, or the circumstances are comparable, except in the effect on the immediate family.
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jacksdad41
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01:35 AM on 01/06/2012
Nor the abduction, torture and murder of Capt Robert Nairac , a special undercover operative who infiltrated the IRA. At the car park where he was abducted there were 5 different blood groups found by forensics. The PIRA know where the body of Capt Nairac is but refuse to surrender the information. If you knew anyone living in Northern Ireland the punishment beatings, kneecappings, protection rackets are still alive and well, just largely unreported on purpose so as not to relight the tinder box as the fragile peace agreement is holed just above the water line. Not on topic but Bob Niaracs parents accepted the George Cross posthumously but never had the body of their son to bury.
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Seaniebhoy
05:55 PM on 01/06/2012
"One thing I would say about Northern Ireland's deaths is this: the population as a whole have taken a collective and deliberate decision to draw a line under the whole mess, taken a collective decision not to pursue any more murderers for crimes committed during that awful period"

That's not entirely true...anyone who is convicted of a paramilitary related offense prior to the peace accords is elligible for early release after 2 years, however there is no guarantee of such things. Furthermore, as we may (or may not) have seen with the Gerry McGough case (prosecuted in 2009 for an attack on a UDR man in 1981) the state will still prosecute.
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Thomas Platt
11:16 PM on 01/05/2012
The sentences do seem lenient, but it makes sense. They were kids when they committed the crime, so it should be as children that they're sentenced. You shouldn't change the law to fit public opinion, no matter how tragic the case.
11:23 PM on 01/05/2012
ouite right free them both now
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
12:35 AM on 01/06/2012
I have yet to witness Thomas Platt say something less than wise.

And the comments by trains & flyboy are comedy genius - they must be in it together!
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Thomas Platt
01:25 PM on 01/06/2012
You've obviously not been paying attention :P
10:01 PM on 01/05/2012
Am I the only person to wonder why Stephen Lawrence's name or murder was not mentioned whilst the undercover CCTV, or whatever it was, was in one of the suspect's flat. He (and they) didn't know it was there so would be free to speak. Their actions, as shown, was brutal so why not a bit of bragging as well. Puzzled. Maybe the system didn't have sound.
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Carl Baron
09:07 PM on 01/05/2012
Stephen Lawrence's >MURDERS< jailed just 15 years is not >Justice only Injustice.