Jim Murphy: Labour Must Accept Cuts, Avoid Populist Opposition

Jim Murphy

First Posted: 06/01/12 07:48 GMT Updated: 06/01/12 09:52 GMT   PA

Shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy has said Labour will accept £5bn of the government's planned defence cuts and urged his party to avoid "populist" opposition to necessary austerity measures.

"It is important to be both credible and popular when it comes to defence investment and the economics of defence," Murphy told The Guardian.

"There is a difference between populism and popularity. Credibility is the bridge away from populism and towards popularity. It is difficult to sustain popularity without genuine credibility. At a time on defence when the government is neither credible nor popular it is compulsory that Labour is both."

Among items he said the opposition would accept were the scrapping of the Nimrod MR4 surveillance aircraft, efficiencies in the renewal of the Trident nuclear deterrent, a slimmed down defence estate, cuts to civilian allowances and reducing tank regiments.

But he indicated that he would maintain opposition to other high-profile changes such as the lack of an aircraft carrier capability for up to a decade.

Economic Secretary to the Treasury, Chloe Smith said: “After a series of attacks on his weak leadership, this is the latest blow to Ed Miliband as even his own Shadow Cabinet are losing confidence in Labour’s economic policy.

“Until Labour say what spending they would cut to clear up their mess, rather than calling for more spending, more borrowing and more debt, they will never be trusted with our economy again.”

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Shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy has said Labour will accept £5bn of the government's planned defence cuts and urged his party to avoid "populist" opposition to necessary austerity measures. "I...
Shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy has said Labour will accept £5bn of the government's planned defence cuts and urged his party to avoid "populist" opposition to necessary austerity measures. "I...
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majdf18148
I have nothing to declare but my curiosity
01:15 PM on 01/07/2012
Politicians are like nappies. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason!
10:34 AM on 01/07/2012
At long last. A Labour Minister with a BRAIN CELL. Take note 2 heads - Milliband and Balls
12:16 AM on 01/07/2012
Murphy would accept economies in the modernisation of Britain's WDM, whoops Trident. Wow! Says it all about New Labour that he cannot think of the simplest economy, getting rid of it altogether.

But sanity is on its way - SNP policy is rejection of all nuclear weapons - on Scottish soil, in Scotland's waters and airspace. So after independence it will be somebody's problem where to put this ridiculous sop to imperial delusions. (I have some ideas but they are anatomical impossibilities.)

Not that Murphy will have that problem - after independence he will be looking for a job. Maybe Cameron will give him one.
12:13 PM on 01/07/2012
after independance you wont be able to afford a nuclear programme as you will have to pay your own free prescriptions, university, etc as well as building power stations for your Scottish electricity ,none nuclear of course ,
03:44 PM on 01/07/2012
You seem to be under two illusions. One is that the people of Scotland do not pay taxes. Of course they do, and indeed contribute disproportionately to the Ukanian Exchequer. The "block grant" is some of that money recycled (see the GERS report). The Scottish government spends that money according to its priorities. It is just that it has a different view of the world from the Ukanian ruling elite, and thus a different sense of priorities.

So the idea that possessing nuclear WMD is some kind of virility symbol for a clapped-out post-imperial state (which seems to be your second illusion) is simply not on the SNP's radar. In other words they have a sense of identity appropriate for a small democratic European state in the 21st century. What is the problem with that?
10:00 PM on 01/06/2012
Makes sense, seeing it was Labour`s faults and failings which caused the cuts in the 1st place, they should have remembered the old figure of speech, in cutting your cloth accordingly!!
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Dombeyandson
09:53 AM on 01/07/2012
Rubbish
12:05 AM on 01/08/2012
As we saw so many false spin doctors in Labour, trying to manipulate joe publics, their cover ups in secrecy until too late, a common issue with them 4 sure! Did you know the name 4 spin doctors in the past, were called wirepullers? Know Labour wasted vast amounts of money on jobsworths etc etc. bloody false as they come, and having had dealings with a corrupt ex Labour mp and other just as corrupt heads, had the misfortune of coming across thorny pricks,sadly without blooms!
12:10 AM on 01/08/2012
Wales, waves and wakes, look out 4 the Leakgate scandal, hope it gives you a wake up call and of course eye opener to many who have been misled in the past!
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mfa11e
Tell the truth ,regardless
09:58 PM on 01/06/2012
why do huffpost ask people to leave comments then refuse to post them ,extreme censors
08:09 PM on 01/06/2012
How much did Cameron pay him to say that! LOL!
06:38 PM on 01/06/2012
Defence was cut to the bone by Labour, let alone what the Con Dems have done........We need an escort force (Destroyer's & Frigate's) of 32 to carry out our current commitments (a figure worked out by the Navy) but we are now down to a mere 19. Not to mention our current lack of Carriers with a strike force. It's time that defence spending was increased....quite simply with money saved from welfare scroungers and such like. The Defence budget is tiny compared with the other departments.
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MrAnon
07:06 PM on 01/06/2012
Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait, I mean!
08:05 PM on 01/06/2012
its easy stop all aid payments and stop eu payments
06:32 PM on 01/06/2012
our biggest cost is the house of commons cant we start the cutting there!
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06:53 PM on 01/06/2012
House of Lords might be a better place to start.
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MrAnon
07:08 PM on 01/06/2012
Lords are not paid, MPs are, where would we save more money, go figure it out.....
10:29 AM on 01/07/2012
Maybe Holyrod, how many millions was that over budget????
05:47 PM on 01/06/2012
I do not mind cuts, what I do mind is the free movement of mass labour in Europe, which is destroying our economy, immigration at 500 a day, where are they housed? where are they working? Where is the improved infrastructure? Why are we allowing people to have children whilst claiming tax payers money through benefits, adding to child poverty? Why does the government encouraging single parents? £billions of pounds are being exported out of our economy every year by foreign workers, interpreters are costing millions of pounds per year, they are even used to register new born babies by none speaking foreigners, who don't want to even learn our language.
Its madness and is destroying the UK.
05:29 PM on 01/06/2012
Dear Ed - Please develop some backbone and tell everyone what you would cut and by how much and lay down clear areas where cut will be in the long run counterproductive and FIGHT for these areas. Admit in public that the Blair/Brown years were a disaster and that the New Labour fiasco is over. This may require a massive clean out of the discredited Brownite/Blairite traitors and the reinvention of an honest Centre/Left party worthy of the proud name Labour.
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Dombeyandson
10:00 AM on 01/07/2012
Let me see, how about overpaid executive salaries along with public service overpaid salaries and whilst we're at it put a block on paying failures compensation to get rid of them. And of course whilst renegotiating Public Service Pensions let's also cut MPs golden pensions and hand outs. How about we also stop paying MPs other than essential expenses cutting out the need for our having to buy them a second home and they being able to walk away with what the taxpayer has bought them - our profitable investment And stop paying them to commute to their place of work - Parliament. We're all in this together Big Dave -and little george
05:22 PM on 01/06/2012
I really dont see how Labour have a awnser as they got us in the mess in the first place
You have to run a country like a house you need it comming in to ne able to spend .
Labour maxed out the credit card and now the problem has to be resolved,
So unless they come up with a credible solution they shouldent keep saying what the government are doinng is wrong
By the way i am not a tory
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06:43 PM on 01/06/2012
You should become a tory..you speak the langauge...captain
07:06 PM on 01/06/2012
by the amout of comments you try to make on here its you who should get a life !!
09:35 PM on 01/06/2012
No Just speak sence as i see it
08:05 PM on 01/06/2012
well said capt.
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Saint wright
Dyslexic old chippy
04:39 PM on 01/06/2012
Gosh labour MP with a brain, what next Tony Blair charged for liaring to the People & Parliment to take this country to ilegal war?

I tried several ways to get past HP truth police, hope this works?
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Dombeyandson
10:09 AM on 01/07/2012
And Thatcher ignoring the advise of her defence secretaries to strenghen the Falklands defences to PREVENT invasion form Argentina becasue she wanted to save money and jingoism was her middle name and wars are always a good diversion to economic downturn
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Saint wright
Dyslexic old chippy
12:55 PM on 01/07/2012
The Best PM since Churchill who unlike you both had faults, obviously you’re the sort of chap that thinks Bliar & Brown are the real thing?
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Norman Mitchison
04:29 PM on 01/06/2012
A promising start to 2012 with a Labour Shadow Minister realising cuts are indeed needed to turn the countrys finances around.
04:55 PM on 01/06/2012
Whatever next from Labour? A new mantra...Coalition cuts are too little and too late...too little and too late...too little and too late (repeat endlessly until another new mantra)? If they think it will win the next election they would promise bigger and better cuts than the others...
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Dombeyandson
10:11 AM on 01/07/2012
It's not rocket science - if you 'aint got it you can't spend it but you cut form those who have plenty not from those who don't and scratch a living whilst they have to watch them grab what they can while they can
03:51 PM on 01/06/2012
How reckless our politicians are is clear from these cuts. The Argentinians are making noises over the Falklands again and no doubt will invade again soon. Why? Because we have no aircraft carriers this time.

Can anyone see the French agreeing to the joint use of their carrier? Remember who supplied exocet missiles to the Argentinians?

Our fighting capabilities are a joke.
04:24 PM on 01/06/2012
Theoretically, we don't need aircraft carriers to defend the Falklands...only to retake them. We do have a defensive force on and around the Falklands which I read is sufficient to thwart any attempt by Argentina to invade...I truly hope this is true!

I would trust the French about as much as I trust Argentina...
04:55 PM on 01/06/2012
Aircraft are a vital part in any war , defence or retaking . They cut down on casulties a lot
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vividrick
I came, I saw...I had a cup of tea!
05:27 PM on 01/06/2012
Not as feckless or as immoral as selling weapons, tanks & planes to any despot around The World ready to use them on their own people or neighbours!
01:37 PM on 01/06/2012
the fact is this country faces massive economic problems.i dont just mean the deficit i mean the future for britain afterwards. the truth is whatever we do in britain can be and is being done in china at a tenth of the cost..the western countries cant compete. whatever government there is in power has danced around this issue long enough. the reason theres hardly any differance between any of the parties any more is because basically socialism is dead and buried. in our competitors countries workers rights dont exist.manufacturing costs are minimal.and while this isnt right its a fact. and yes the eu could put massive import tarriffs on imported goods to help home grown business compete but then the rest of the world would do the same to eu goods.