Mass Graves At Nazi Death Camp Treblinka Proves Holocaust Deniers Wrong

Treblinka

First Posted: 17/01/12 06:05 Updated: 17/01/12 06:05   PA

A British forensic archaeologist has unearthed fresh evidence to prove the existence of mass graves at the Nazi death camp Treblinka.

Some 800,000 Jews were killed at the site, in north east Poland, during the Second World War but a lack of physical evidence at the site has been exploited by Holocaust deniers.

Forensic archaeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls has now undertaken the first co-ordinated scientific attempt to locate the graves, according to an interview in the Radio Times.

As Jewish religious law forbids disturbing burial sites, she and her team from the University of Birmingham have used "ground-penetrating radar".

Her work at the site, where the Nazis tried to destroy all traces of industrial-scale killing, is being followed in forthcoming Radio 4 documentary The Hidden Graves Of The Holocaust.

The programme's presenter, Jonathan Charles, a former BBC foreign correspondent, wrote in the Radio Times that the ground-penetrating radar had also discovered the foundations of buildings and that two are likely to have been gas chambers.

Sturdy Colls said: "All the history books state that Treblinka was destroyed by the Nazis but the survey has demonstrated that simply isn't the case."

She added: "I've identified a number of buried pits using geophysical techniques. These are considerable in size, and very deep, one in particular is 26 by 17 metres."

The programme's presenter wrote in the Radio Times that the pits contain the burnt remains of thousands of bodies.

The forensic archaeologist, who has now presented her findings to the authorities responsible for the memorial at Treblinka, said: "I really hope this is the first stage in a long-term programme to seek out those hidden graves of the Holocaust."

Survivor Kalman Taigman remembers his arrival at the camp's railway station, packed into a cattle wagon.

"I was with my mother. We were about 100 people in a wagon. They opened the doors, firing guns and hitting us, and sent us into a yard. I ran with my mother and tried to calm her.

"They told me to leave my mother but I didn't do it quickly and I was hit on the head. When I got up, she was gone. She went with all the rest of the women to the gas chamber."

The Hidden Graves of the Holocaust is being broadcast on Monday January 23 on 8pm on BBC Radio 4.

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A British forensic archaeologist has unearthed fresh evidence to prove the existence of mass graves at the Nazi death camp Treblinka. Some 800,000 Jews were killed at the site, in north east Poland...
A British forensic archaeologist has unearthed fresh evidence to prove the existence of mass graves at the Nazi death camp Treblinka. Some 800,000 Jews were killed at the site, in north east Poland...
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20:45 on 18/03/2012
it should never be allowed to happen again it is not just the jews that suffered many of the persons who served in soe were killed in these camps to
19:37 on 08/04/2012
It never happened the first time!
12:35 on 30/01/2012
This story could be a mortal threat to the holocaust orthodoxy. All Ms. Sturdy Colls found was what the Polis investigation found in 1945. They found a bomb crater, a garbage pit, and an unspecified amount of ashes and human remains, but they found no mass graves, or areas of disturbed earth that could have been mass graves, big enough to have held the 100's of thousands of bodies that are claimed to have been buried (and exhumed) there. They gave up after 5 days and concluded that there were no mass graves there. Coll's study confirms this.

That 26 x 17 meter pit is puny in comparison to what would have been needed. 700,000+ bodies would have filled up pits the size of football fields, and she would have found them the first day.

This study will be dropped from the news and only revisionists will ever cite it. It proves the revisionists right.
08:48 on 28/01/2012
I wondr ..Few years ago an Australian Richard Krege use the same ground penetrating tool and after several days of work with his team didn't find anything at all in relation to "mass graves"Shortly after he announced his findings ,supported by the print-out from above mentioned GPR Jewish propaganda did it's best to present him and his equipment in the most ridiculous light.
Now few years later we have an holo-expert using the same tools:)
When could we SEE the result of her work?Not on radio ,I hope:)

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek
03:10 on 26/01/2012
Or maybe it was electrocution.

There were four methods of extermination reported at Treblinka, electrocution, steaming, gassing, and suffocation in vacuum chambers. Testimony of all four methods was introduced at the war crimes trials. It has only been decades later that three of the four methods were dropped from consideration without stated justification.
Unfortunately for those who "dropped" three of the four explanations, they had no basis for doing so. There was no site to examine, not to mention that it was behind the Iron Curtain in Poland and examination was forbidden. Rather one gets the impression they were dropped because they were seen as false by even the casual observer.
There was no basis in "credibility" of the witness as testimony to all four methods was introduced and none rejected by the Tribunal judging the war crimes. There was close up and first person testimony to each method introduced into evidence. It was not the speculation of far away spies.
03:03 on 26/01/2012
Was the murder weapon vaccum chambers?

Shortly after the war, the World Jewish Congress published The Black Book, a 559-page volume of real and imagined wartime atrocities against Jews. At Treblinka alone, the book alleges, three million persons were killed. Three diabolical techniques, including poison gas and steam, were supposedly used there to kill some 10,000 Jews daily. But "the most widespread" method "consisted of pumping all the air out from the chambers with large special pumps." (note 16) A former inmate testified shortly after the war that Treblinka's victims were "poisoned by the different gasses or asphyxiated when the chamber was turned into a vacuum and all the air sucked out."

Ref: Jewish Black Book Comm., The Black Book (1946), pp. 407-408.
09:00 on 28/01/2012
Mannstein.
You are 100% correct.

But..hang on..i have ANOTHER eye witness:)
I survived a Nazi steam chamber

In 1982 Mary Sigillo Barraco, an earlier regular on the Ho£ocaust circuit,
tortured people with her dreamt up experiences, here's a few of them:

She was a French freedom fighter, until captured at 18 and sent to concentration
camps in Belgium and France, where she was held prisoner for 16 months

She can't take a shower, nor wash her car, because the steam reminds her of the
steam chamber the Nazis put her in, where she turned red, and then fainted
She was sterilized, and had her teeth knocked out

She was sold out to the Gestapo by a traitorous member of the French Resistance for $12.00

After she was released, she re-joined the Resistance (stupid Nazis :) )

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=IyFWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DuQDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6700%2C3383324
TBC
09:02 on 28/01/2012
and please do not forget:
COPYRIGHT 1943
by
AMERICAN FEDERATION FOR POLISH JEWS, INC.
MANUFACTURED IN THE UNITED STATES

THE BLACK BOOK OF POLISH JEWRY p. 131

Na stronie 131 owego wiekopomnego dziela czytamy:

An electrocution station is installed at Belzec camp. Transports of settlers arrive at a siding, on the spot where the execution is to take place. The camp is policed by Ukrainians. The victims are ordered to strip naked ostensibly to have a bath and are then led to a barracks with a metal plate for floor. The door is then locked, electric current passes through the victims and their death is almost instantaneous. The bodies are loaded on the wagons and taken to a mass grave some distance from the camp.
Treblinka...

According to the report of an eyewitness, the interior of the building is as follows: a corridor 3 meters wide runs through the middle; there are five chambers on each side; the height of each chamber is about 2 meters; the area about 35 square meters. The execution chambers are without windows, but they have doors opening on the corridor and a type of valve on the outside walls. Next to these valves there are large scoops (they remind one of large vessels). In the walls pipes were installed from which water-steam is supposed to pour into the chambers. This was to have been death-house No. 2.
TBC
02:49 on 26/01/2012
What's the murder weapon going to be? Your choice Steam or Gas.

In December 1945, an official Polish Government Commission made a "definitive study" of the "steam chambers" of Treblinka. Here are few excerpts: "The German authorities acting under the authority of Governor General Dr. Hans Frank established in March 1942 the extermination-camp Treblinka, intended for mass killing of Jews by suffocating them in steam-filled chambers…Late in 1942, the erection of the first three chambers was finished in which these general massacres were to be performed by means of steam…"
14:13 on 24/01/2012
Will Andy Mathis care to explain why he is banned from one of the most important and well respected Holocaust memorial websites, www.deathcamps.org and why this note was published there:

http://deathcamps.org/gas_chambers/trebmuenzberger.html
16:04 on 24/01/2012
Already posted below, but here you go:

http://hol­ocaustcont­roversies.­blogspot.c­om/2006/11­/heart-def­enders-and­-their-met­hods.html
16:37 on 24/01/2012
That link to a known hate blog does little but appear to smear people without any facts. The ARC website link I have posted is a factual banning of YOU from that website.

What proof do you offer that this silly blog smear is based in any reality? It looks like more mathis style attack anecdotes and nothing more.

You have earned yourself the wonderful reputation of being an Internet wack-job. You are disgracing the Jewish people, Holocaust survivors, victims, and real historians with your insanity.

Anyone who takes you seriously on any topic has real issues.
16:46 on 24/01/2012
Andy,
Posting a link to a known Holocaust hate blog that has entire sections dedicated to smearing indiidual historians offers little in the way of explanation or proof.

The ARC link that I posted is a factual notice on a well-respected Holocaust memorial website that has BANNED YOU and your hate blog associates.

That website clearly states you are connected to forged Holocaust documents, and its clear for all of us to see at this link that you are guilty of massive Internet smear campains, here are some of the disucssions showing that:

http://tinyurl.com/7gdqhs9

Why would anyone here on the Huffington post, or anywhere else for that matter take someone like you seriously on any issue?

By your actions and behavior you have disgraced the Jewish people, you have alienated respected Holocaust historians, and have dishonored the memory of the Holocaust victims
21:23 on 23/01/2012
From the book of Filip Muller Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the Gas Chambers. (Stein and day, New York)

What is one to make of passages such as this (pp. 46-47):

“After their execution the chosen bodies were laid on a table. The doctors proceeded to cut pieces of still warm flesh from thighs and calves and threw them into waiting receptacles. The muscles of those who had been shot were still working and contracting, making the bucket jump about.”

Or the absurd capacity ascribed to the coke-fired crematory ovens (p. 16):

“The powers that be had allocated twenty minutes for the cremation of three corpses [in one oven muffle]. It was Stark’s duty to see to it that this time was strictly adhered to.”

If one believes such remarkable nonsense there's a bridge in New York for sale.
04:47 on 24/01/2012
Again, trying to discredit an entire history because of the exaggerations of some won't work.

Muller testified to gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau. So did several other Jews. So did 69 SS witnesses. All your obfuscation won't change that.
08:50 on 24/01/2012
When it has been discredited over and over again by exposing the repeated lies of the accusers it works. What won't work is the claims by the so-called victims is that they are innocent. They murdered millions of Ukrainians and they paid Churchill to start WW II and that is why revenge was taken. As some American Jewish columnists said when their co-religionists were massacring Palestinians, a people must live with the consequences of the people they have chosen to lead them. The same goes for Jews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuXW2fLkz4
05:50 on 26/01/2012
Okay, let's have it your way Andy. What part in Mueller's testimony do you personally believe to be credible? What other several Jews? What do they say that you believe to be factual? You mention 69 SS witnesses. In what condition were the confessions or testimonies produced or obtained? In the same manner as they obtained it from Rudolf Höß?
I can give examples from non-Nazis about preferred methods of obtaining the RIGHT stories. Repeated beatings and kicks to the groin was one particular method which was used frequently. If you wish I can provide you with sources, although you ought to be familiar with this information already.
21:10 on 23/01/2012
“The Holocaust is a holy mystery, the secret of which is limited to the circle of the priesthood of survivors” (Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, p. 211)

Eli Wiesel's Papal proclamation.

Go figure.
04:34 on 24/01/2012
Who cares?
08:51 on 24/01/2012
I do.
15:32 on 23/01/2012
Comparison of official figures on the number of those killed in the gas chambers of Auschwitz:

Jul. 26, 1990: Allgemeine Jüdische Wochenzeitung 4,000,000

June 11, 1992: Allgemeine Jüdische Wochenzeitung 1,500,000

Apr. 20, 1978: French newspaper Le Monde 5,000,000

Sept. 1., 1989: French newspaper Le Monde 1,472,000

1945: International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg 4,000,000

1985: Raul Hilberg: Die Vernichtung der europäischen Juden 1,250,000

1979: The Pope during his visit to Auschwitz 4,000,000

July 1990: The left-wing TAZ and other newspapers 960,000

April 1990: Chief State Attorney Majorowsky/Wuppertal 4,000,000

1974: G. Reitlinger: Die Endlösung 850,000

1945: French War Crimes Investigations Office 8,000,000

1989: USSR releases death-books. Total deaths 66,000

1989: Eugen Kogon: Der SS-Staat 4,500,000

1965: Auschwitz decision 50/4 Ks 2/63. including claimed gassing deaths 45,510

1989: Memorial tablet in Birkenau removed, with number 4,000,000

1965: Auschwitz decision 50/4 Ks 2/63, without claimed gassing deaths 619

Which numbers are to be believed?
19:31 on 23/01/2012
Personally, I'd go with Hilberg. But that's just personally. However, I'd remind people that many of these numbers are unsourced or at least unchecked. Further, newspapers aren't historians. Nor is the Pope.
23:27 on 23/01/2012
Or you. Or Raul Hilberg.
15:13 on 23/01/2012
The top scholar of contemporary history, F. H. HINSLEY, Master of St. John's College and Professor of the History of International Relations at the University of Cambridge in his detailed research, using decrypted German reports from Auschwitz, sent to Berlin, reveals the following:

From the spring of 1942 until February 1943 ... The decrypts, intercepted at Bletchely Park, from Auschwitz, the largest of the camps with 20,000 prisoners, mentioned illness as the main cause of death, but included references to shootings and hangings. There were no references in the decrypts to gassing.

Ref: BRITISH INTELLIGENCE IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR

Its Influence on Strategy and Operations

VOLUME TWO
by
F. H. HINSLEY
Master of St. John's College and
Professor of the History of International Relations in the University of Cambridge
with E. E. THOMAS C. F. G. RANSOM R. C. KNIGHT
19:31 on 23/01/2012
Which proves nothing.
00:58 on 24/01/2012
You have to wonder why the Germans would admit to shooting and hanging people while hiding those they (allegedly) gassed. I mean killing is killing.
23:08 on 15/02/2012
The Royal Airforce and the American 8th Airforce flew over the concentration camps on reconn missions almost daily. Auschwitz was a Factory Town producing German military hardware by Krupp, and I.G, Farbin had huge chem factories and research facilities there also. By watching the activity of the camps and the factories the so called Allies could determine if the Germans were planning a big Party for the Allies, In all of those fly overs there were no reports of gas chambers, of mounds of bodies on the ground, of extermination pits or anything that was out of the ordinary. THAT'S WHY THAT THE FILM AND RECORDS OF THESE HUGE NUMBERS OF FLY OVERS ARE LOCKED UP AND CLASSIFIED AS TOP SECRET AND NOT TO BE OPENED TILL WHO KNOWS WHEN BECAUSE THEY WILL PROVE THAT THERE WAS NO HOLOCAUST EXCEPT THAT OF THE CARPET FIRE BOMBING OF GERMAN CITIES AND THE ONE HUNDRED MILLION CHRISTIANS KILLED IN RUSSIA AND EASTERN EUROPE BY THE ZIONIST-BOLSHEVIK-COMMUNISTS FROM 1917 TO 1953 THE YEAR OF STALIN'S DEATH
from cmanap40.
14:48 on 23/01/2012
In a gasogene oven, heated with coke, the casket delayed corpse-water vaporization by 5 to 6 minutes, acting in a way as a thermal shield until breaking apart by the effect of the flames. Simultaneously, the heat produced by the casket, which raised the temperature of the chamber to 1,100°C, accelerated the vaporization process, therefore cremation without a casket did not take less time than cremation with a casket.
19:33 on 23/01/2012
That would require a wood casket to get that heat. Paper wouldn't do it, nor would other materials, which are commonly used today. My point, since you missed it, is that modern-day crematoria are not comparable to those at Birkenau.

But perhaps you can answer a question (you won't, but I'll ask): Why would a camp that could only hold 200,000 people at most need enough cremation power to burn thousands of bodies a day? Because no one doubts that those crematoria were there.
08:39 on 30/01/2012
Thousands of bodies? Are you using Talmudic mathematics again? Auschwitz had at most around 35 ovens in operation at any given time. If we are generous and use modern-day cremation times and an efficiency of 75%(cremation ovens require frequent maintainance and cleaning), we arrive at a maximum capacity of about 35*24*0.75 = 630 bodies a day. However, this must be considered a theoretical capacity because we do not know the actual number of ovens in use at any given time. As the new crematoria were meant to replace the old, it is fair to assume that the actual intended capacity was lower than that.

And given the threat from typhus epidemics, that's a completely logical capacity for a camp of that size.
01:00 on 23/01/2012
"aemathisphd" is the nym of a hateful guy named ANDREW "ANDY E. MATHIS. This is not something which is kept hidden: What would the point be? It's not against the law to BELIEVE in the preposterous stories he promotes.
It is, however, in a veritable host of countries, against the law TO NOT PLACE BELIEF IN his story. There's a reason for that...
Andrew E. Mathis is a Jew by his own admission. So he has a special interest in these stories. And anybody who he doesn't like he tries to "out" because, as I write, it's illegal in a variety of countries to doubt his views...still, I have valiantly opposed his claims DESPITE threats against my own life and threats against my family.
http://litek.ws/k0nsl/detox/AndrewEMathis3.html
01:49 on 23/01/2012
I don't understand how he has the guts to continue spreading his distortions after he and his cohorts at the holocaust controversies blog were caught redhanded with the *forging* of documents. Actually, I do - he can because he is Jewish, and anything goes when you have the dictatorship of political correctness on your side.
09:29 on 23/01/2012
Andrew E. Mathis is a psychopath.
02:38 on 23/01/2012
"Andrew E. Mathis is a Jew by his own admission."

Egads!
18:35 on 23/01/2012
Being a Jew is not the rationale for being a menace to society.

Here is a link where Mr. Mathis shows what type of person he truly is:

http://hateblogwatch.yuku.com/topic/448/Exposing--email-threats--Andrew-E-Mathis-PHD--Holocaust-Cont

There are thousands of links on the Internet showing far worse from him.
00:16 on 23/01/2012
I would counsel all to be extremely careful when dealing with Andrew E. Mathis of Villanova. For more about this deviant indivdiual, visit Hate Blog Watch to learn the truth about Holocaust hate blogger Andrew Mathis http://hateblogwatch.yuku.com
01:56 on 23/01/2012
This is a bit silly. We should continue spreading truth, but not resort to the same tactics they use. Andrew Mathis and the rest of that bunch should be ignored and not responded to at all, except to make the public aware of their pseudoscience and forgeries, in my opinion.
23:06 on 21/01/2012
The transcript from the first Ernst Zundel trial is definitely worth a read.
01:14 on 22/01/2012
You might want to say why.
04:48 on 22/01/2012
All the Zündel trials are. See especially the testimony of Rudolf Vrba.
19:08 on 22/01/2012
That's sufficiently vague.