Royal Yacht Proposal Backed By David Cameron

David Cameron Royal Yacht

PA/Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 16/01/12 21:29 GMT Updated: 16/01/12 22:02 GMT

David Cameron offered his full support to a plan for a new Royal Yacht, but said it should not be publicly funded, it has been revealed.

The prime minister wrote to the chairman of a charitable trust trying to raise £100m for a new national flagship welcoming his "truly inspiring initiative" in October, it emerged on Monday.

The revelation comes after a leaked letter from Education Secretary Michael Gove suggesting that the yacht could be seen as "a gift from the nation to Her Majesty" on the Queen's Diamond Jubilee sparked uproar.

The proposed sailing ship - 650 feet long and as tall as St Paul's Cathedral - would provide education and vocational training for young people, facilities for scientific research and a venue for trade missions and commercial exhibitions as well as staterooms for the use of the Royal Family on trips around the United Kingdom and overseas.

Retired Rear Admiral David Bawtree said he approached universities minister David Willetts with his proposals for a Future Ship Project for the 21st Century last year, who backed the project along with Education Secretary Michael Gove.

Cameron's official spokesman said the prime minster would "react favourably" to requests for government assistance, but believed it would be "inappropriate" for taxpayers' cash to be used on the project.

The PM said that he was keen on projects that aim to help young people from all backgrounds to develop the skills and energy that Britain needs for its future prosperity, the Rear Admiral explained.

His letter said: "I think this is a splendid idea and you have my full support. I know you intend the project to be privately-funded and there is some way to go, but you understand that the government is not able to offer any financial assistance."

Rear Admiral Bawtree, the former commander of Portsmouth's naval base, said he was not seeking state funding, but that Cameron's letter would boost efforts to secure private donations.

Gove also told MPs he was not suggesting using taxpayers' money to fund the project.

"The letter which I wrote to the prime minister on September 12 clearly stated that I agree of course the project for a royal yacht, the Future Ship Project for the 21st Century, was one... where no public funding should be provided," he said.

In his letter, Gove said that the Queen's "highly significant contribution" to Britain and the Commonwealth should be recognised with a "lasting legacy".

But Labour Party deputy chairman Tom Watson said: "When school budgets are being slashed, parents will be wondering how Gove came even to suggest this idea. This is not the time to spend £60m on a yacht."

And Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said: "Most people in the country would think the Diamond Jubilee is a wonderful occasion for us to celebrate together as a community and as a nation.

"But I suspect that most people in the country would think, given that there is very little money around, that this probably would not be the top of their list of priorities for the use of scarce public resources."

A Buckingham Palace spokesman said: "The travel arrangements for the Queen and other members of the Royal Family are handled with great care and in close liaison with government. It would, therefore, be inappropriate to speculate on the future use of any vessel by the Royal Household."

The proposed yacht would see young people spend up to three months on board pursuing studies and assisting a team of around 20 scientists researching the health of the oceans.

The 90,000 square feet of sails could contain photo-voltaic threads allowing it to power itself with solar energy. And the design includes 400 square metres of exhibition space for businesses.

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06:48 PM on 01/17/2012
Re-fit Britannia, cheaper and Queenie already knows her way around it.
10:00 AM on 01/17/2012
This is not that bad an idea as long as it is built in a British shipyard, is used as a working ship by the Navy and is not plastered with adverts for the contributors. The last royal yacht was used as a working ship by the Navy and was not a toy for the Royal Family's sole use.

On this basis it will cost the tax payer nothing, create jobs and provide another ship for our under-equipped Navy.

Let's not get carried away with the negativity without considering the positives.
10:21 AM on 01/17/2012
Yes it was a "hospital ship" wasn't it - with plans for it to be used "when needed" - however wqhen it was needed at the time of the Falklands - it wasn't found suitable.......no further comment needed eh?
10:37 AM on 01/17/2012
You would do well to read the history of Brittannia. The ship did see active service in Aden and was a useful training ship. Today it is berthed in Scotland and paying its way as a visitor attraction.

Maybe you should do some more reading before making such claims. Cherry picking does not wash.
08:50 AM on 01/17/2012
This is camerons "let them eat cake" moment - at a time when pretty much every normal person in the UK is feeling the effects of the cuts - the PM backs a £100mill project to give the queen a luxury cruiser.
Also - this money is being raised by a charity ! WTF - I thought charities were supposed to look after the less well off? - the royal family are already one of the biggest recipients of EU farming grants, they already get millions a year off the tax payer as rent for windfarms on their land,
The Royal Family are parasites - let them buy their own luxury cruiser
10:21 AM on 01/17/2012
You have a very good point and well put. The 2 C`s would have us all living on charity, so that they could put our money to better use, militarily supporting rebel uprisings in oil producing countries,
who agree better terms for the sale of their oil, in exchange for military support, then the ruling junta.
A humerous thought enters my mind. I wonder if Dodgy Dave and co would be so supportive of charities, if every one in this country , were to register themselves as `charity` , then live off the tax free expenses, drive Mercedes Benz cars , and only contribute the obligatory 15- 20 pence in the pound , to their stated cause.?
I am about to phone for an appointment with a psychiatrist.I am a dedicated Scotish nationlist, who begins to have Tory thoughts !
08:46 AM on 01/17/2012
If he wants to personally finance it good for him, but in these days of belt tightening not one penny of tax payers money should be afforded to such a luxury.

However the next thing will be it'll be a "Royal Navy ship" and then totally funded by the tax payer.

NO, NO, NO!!!!!
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07:46 AM on 01/17/2012
Well done Michael Gove, your idea awoken Dave C, into action. putting Britain first has hopefully taken it's first massive step to the restoration of a Nation, going into decline. Whatever the knockers and pessimists say, we need to hold on to our Royalty at any cost, because many sinister schemes would take their place. No doubt the Gluttons and sabateurs of the EU, would delight in the loss of our Royalty, allowing them to dictate to their puppets in Wetminster, for more of our absconding money, which the puppets would delight in giving. Remember the old adage, better the devil you know, and absolutely nothing could ever replace the pride and pageantry we have cecome accustomed to.....
11:19 AM on 01/17/2012
A comment such as yours, could only come from a person of English heritage, whose knowledge of the history of this `Great Britain`,is slightly less than accurate.
You hear very little of the Roman invasion, and the fact that the English adopted their enslavement with relish. The Scots had a much better idea.
There is no a `Great Britain` . The Scots, of whom I am one, wish seperation, from the liars and cheats in Westminster, who abuse the rights of the people of this country, in a totally immoral way. We resent being lied to , and made to suffer austerity measures , by an unelected rabble, who , as far as we can see , only fill their pockets , and that of their friends , from the publlic purse. I believe that the Welsh, Irish, and even the people of Cornwall, feel the same need for change in the system of government. We cannot all be wrong.!
This Tory led junta, can send millions in foreign aid , give many more millions to the EC, and fill their own pockets, whilst attacking the living standard of the most vulnerable in this country , to pay for it.
You speak of `pride and pageantry`, would you care to commemorate these acts, with a parade through your town.?
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12:07 PM on 01/17/2012
Well then victorganderson, in my life it has always been Great Britain, which included all 4 countries within it, it will remain that way as long as I live. Very soon we will see whether your version as a Scot, in independence, holds water or not. It appears you may represent the minority, we shall soon see. By the way, I soldiered in a Scottish infantry, I know them well. Did you ever serve your country in any way...???
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02:00 PM on 01/17/2012
"Did you ever serve your country in any way." Is that relevant to anything?
02:24 PM on 01/17/2012
Dear Mokgee, Thank you for your reply. No , I did not serve in the British military, but have every respect for those who choose this as a career. My only concern of the military, is the use they are put to now, by financially motivated politicians.
Do we really need to invade these oil producing countries to defend our own.?
I am 60 years old, a cancer sufferer and worked self employed as a taxi driver, and as a dance band musician, for an extensive period of time.
On a lighter note , and to inject some humour in to our public communication, if you think you saw action in the British army, try playing a certain lounge, in Woodside Aberedeen, where they show their apreciation for you music, by allowing you to leave alive after closing time,
It is my belief that the propoganda , widely believed by the people of England, in that Scotland is a `drain` on Westminter recources, which leads them to support Scottish independence, may well work in favour of the SNP here.
06:11 AM on 01/17/2012
let liz and philip, buy it with there weekly pension, i bet they get the going rate!
08:53 AM on 01/17/2012
I bet they get much more than that !
they could perhaps use the £38 mill they receive each year in subsidies for windfarms on crown land, or the multimillion pound handouts (farming subsidies) they get from the EU
05:14 AM on 01/17/2012
Some of the ideas about how such a Yacht would be used are very alarming. For instance, if it were also to be used for schools or other public events, surely this would seriously comprmise the security of the Queen as any terrorist could sneak a bomb or other arms on board so I can only hope that if a new Royal yacht is built, then it should be purely for the Queens use only.
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02:39 AM on 01/17/2012
The royal family may generate money for the treasury through the estates etc, but heres my argument, if the queens estates generated 230 million of profit last year, why is the Royal family still costing each brit 51p each year ? It appears to me the treasury is having its cake and eating it, collecting all this revenue from the Queens estates, then paying the Queens annual budget by AGAIN, collecting it from the population. It seems clear the Queen is more than self sufficient, and she is being scammed by the treasury as well as the british taxpayer.
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05:58 AM on 01/17/2012
Come on, fifty one pence...its not like its a bloody Euro
09:13 AM on 01/17/2012
51p pa? I reckon she's worth every penny of that and I, personally, would happily pay her double to retain her as Head of State!
07:16 PM on 01/18/2012
I would rather pay 51p to to see her head on a pole !!
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02:11 AM on 01/17/2012
with 90,000 sq ft of sales I take it this yacht is going to be a suqare rigger thus energy efficient? No point in having a diesel it'd cost a fortune to run. Don't "fer gawd sakes" call it the Titanic II. What a wonderful idea chaps SAGA can rent it and send all the lucky pensioners on holiday - duriong the winter and save on the winter fuel allowance which teh Tacky Party are planning to cut if tehy can get away with the loss of blue rinse votes. "...That nice Mr Cameron dear look what 'es done fer us Maude..." but it's the Queen's boat Minnie no no no Henry it's for us!!!!!!!!!!!! And look at all the votes that kind Mr Cameron will get now?? Call Me Sir Dave it's part of the BIg Society w're all in this together remember and it'll provide jobs for everyone beats call centre work
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06:00 AM on 01/17/2012
Oars with a huge banner on it. With masts of ENGLISH Oak.
02:02 AM on 01/17/2012
I absolutely agree with the plan for a New Royal Yacht, it is a drop in the Ocean (no pun intended) for the revenue the Royal Family bring into this country every year - if the UK want to save some money - cut back on the bureaucracy and cling-ons that fill the House of Lords and the House of commons every single day as no-one visits the UK to see them.

I agree this country is being run by people who are not in touch with those of us who have to struggle to make ends meet, however, I lay the blame for this solely at the feet of the politicians who year on year manage to make 'improvements' to our financial systems - basically they shell out MORE of our cash to advisory committees who tell them that current benefits and taxes are not sufficient or being abused and then launch new benefits which are paid to the same people at the same rate but the advisory committees go home with a nice tidy sum on their arse pocket for renaming something that already does not help those truly in need.

A new Royal Yacht would bring even further revenue into the country - the old yacht - Britannia is still doing so and on a not for profit basis!!

A new Royal Yacht would prove a great investment in our Childrens future as one day she would be a historical monument.
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02:46 AM on 01/17/2012
"the revenue the Royal Family bring into this country every year"

And what revenue would that be? Where are the figures? What are you basing this assertion on?

"A new Royal Yacht would bring even further revenue into the country"

And what revenue would that be? Where are the figures? What are you basing this assertion on?
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06:01 AM on 01/17/2012
American tourists. They can even sail it to our side of the pond and really rake in the loot. Toss in a couple of mummies from the British Museum,couple of Beefeater guards, recoup its losses in no time. Queen writes a book she can even do a bus tour.
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02:58 AM on 01/17/2012
Who the Queen?
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06:02 AM on 01/17/2012
No that's Prince Charles.
01:38 AM on 01/17/2012
Whilst ordinary people are having to tighten their belts yet again in this economic crisis, I'm suprised anyone can even think about spending 60 million pound on a boat. David Cameron said that we were 'all in this (crisis) together'. Such is the lack of morality in Britain - whilst people are dying unecessarily on NHS waiting lists, the elderly unable to properly heat their homes in winter, funds are being raised to buy a posh yacht.Clearly some sectors of the population are being worse affected than others. I heard the other day of an MP spending £8,000 of public money to buy a table for her office - just one of many examples of one rule for them another for us.
12:07 AM on 01/17/2012
Hah!Cleggy trying to second guess what Cameron would like him to say..Good idea tho,sell tickets for your own royal do's.
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11:56 PM on 01/16/2012
Love how the cost has jumped from 60 million to 100 million. By the way Mr Cameron, government assistance would be at a cost to the taxpayer, or would the government officials be assisting in thier own time?
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11:56 PM on 01/16/2012
Got his priorities all wrong. But he's a Tory toff so it's no surprise.
11:39 PM on 01/16/2012
at least it will keep the east europeans in work for a bit longer doubt if the contract will be in britian
07:25 PM on 01/18/2012
WHO"s for a bet, that IF this waste of tax payers money goes ahead the contract will be farmed out abroad. NO British contracts there !!! AS USUAL.