Assisted Suicide - Margo MacDonald Tries Again To Get Bill Through Scottish Parliament

Assisted Suicide Scottish Parliament

First Posted: 24/01/2012 05:57 Updated: 24/03/2012 09:12   PA

A fresh attempt to legalise assisted suicide in Scotland is being launched today despite defeat just over a year ago.

Veteran politician Margo MacDonald, whose first bid fell in a free vote, argues there is consistent support among the public.
Ms MacDonald, Holyrood's only independent MSP, will set out a new consultation at the official launch inside the Scottish Parliament.

Changes to the previous proposal are expected to cover qualifying conditions and whether assisted suicide should be administered by a physician or by the patient.

Under her plan, Scotland would become the first part of Britain to change the law, which currently leaves Scots open to prosecution for culpable homicide.

Ms MacDonald said: "Since the defeat of my original proposal in December 2010, the volume of correspondence I've received on the matter, coupled with the continuing public interest, stimulated in part by some high-profile statements in favour of the general principle of assisted suicide, indicates to me a consistent level of support for individuals suffering a terminal illness or condition, for whom life becomes intolerable, to have the legal right to request help to end their life before nature decrees."

The launch comes just days after a report called for doctors to be given the right to be able to help terminally-ill people with less than a year left to live to kill themselves.

The year-long Commission on Assisted Dying said stringent safeguards must be in place to protect those who might not have the mental capacity to make such a choice, or who might be clinically depressed or experiencing pressure from friends or relatives.

The commission, chaired by former lord chancellor Lord Falconer, said that, under their proposals, a terminally-ill person would need to be able to take the medication themselves, as a clear sign their actions were voluntary.

Ms MacDonald, a former SNP politician who suffers from Parkinson's disease, failed to secure the necessary support to pass the controversial legislation at Holyrood in 2010, losing in a 16-85 free vote.

The End of Life Assistance Bill had been considered by a specially-convened committee, which did not support the general principles.
The legislation set out that anyone aged over 16 could request help to die. The person would have to be diagnosed as terminally ill and find life intolerable.

A series of scrutiny sessions were held at the Scottish Parliament, taking in evidence from doctors in countries where forms of assisted suicide are permitted.

Assisted suicide is a criminal offence in England and Wales, punishable by up to 14 years in prison.

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A fresh attempt to legalise assisted suicide in Scotland is being launched today despite defeat just over a year ago. Veteran politician Margo MacDonald, whose first bid fell in a free vote, argues...
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Southern law girl
Researching my viewpoint....
10:23 PM on 01/24/2012
I really cannot understand the urgency and rush to go down this slippery slope. If someone decides they wish to commit suicide, note the word commit, that is their decision, misguided or otherwise. I would not be happy if they decided to bring in an okay to commit suicide law in England, there is a real risk it puts the vulnerable in sociey on the pathway to possible abuse. It is pandering to the minority, I can see it no other way. What Scotland does is up to them.
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Allyb999
01:08 AM on 01/25/2012
Humanity is all to pot. We would rather watch people hang on for weeks on end, in agony, not eating, not a hope of recovery. Why?
10:16 PM on 01/24/2012
Think there are quite enough suicides about as it is. Without making things worse. Im 50, my identical twin committed suicide at 24 and my younger sister died last February due to hanging. Think its best to leave the law as it is.
06:00 PM on 01/24/2012
If it happens I suppose those who wish it will not have to go to Switzerland
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Philduck
05:48 PM on 01/24/2012
They already have! Ever been to Govan?
05:16 PM on 01/24/2012
I wholly and firmly believe in the right of the indvidual to choose to die should their suffering through illness or informity become intolerable and there is no quality of life. Should assisted suicide become legal then those who choose to end their suffering my do so. Those who choose to die naturally will also be able to retain that right of choice.
05:14 PM on 01/24/2012
Whilst assisted suicide is still a crime in England the CPS will not prosecute provided the assistance was given in good faith to the person concerned .

And assisted suicide in Holland , Switzerland etc has not let to a spate of them - an individual's life belongs to them - not the State
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mirola
Read between the lines
10:58 PM on 01/24/2012
It's not as easy as it's presented here, assisted suicide in The Netherlands. Various independent doctors are consulted and only might agree (doesn't mean they always will) in cases of unbearable suffering without any prospect of improvement. It isn't like, I want to die, OK here we go.
They did 'assist' my grandfather with a high dose of morphine. He was 90, had been seriously ill for a long time, had slipped into a coma, his organs were failing one by one, but his heart just kept on going, clinging onto that last bit of life left. There was definitely no hope for any recovery whatsoever, my grandfathers time had come. I truly thank the doctors for shortening his suffering.
05:01 PM on 01/25/2012
mirola -that is my point - if it were to assist the truly terminally ill with approval from several doctors etc - where there is no hope of recovery and it is merely stringing out in severe pain or distress someone who is inevitablty fatally ill then it should be the choice of the individual that is respected - whether or not I would wish to avail myself of the choice is NOT the same as not having the choice available - the role of a doctor is to save life or if not possible alleviate suffering
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mfa11e
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04:21 PM on 01/24/2012
I thought the Scots already allowed assisted suicides by allowing special brew to be sold cheap
02:25 PM on 01/24/2012
Asrajit says In regions where assisted suicide is legal, the goalposts were quickly shifted to allow it when the person is depressed or simply tired of life.Once assisted suicide is made legal,it would be difficult to have realistic legal constraints. Assisted suicide should not be made legal. If it is, the vulnerable and the disabled would not be adequately protected.
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Allyb999
06:03 PM on 01/24/2012
On what bsais is Asrajit basing this opinion? If the person has a living will or has decided enough is enough and has a terminal disease, surely that must be their choice. Or should they continue to let people slowly waste away in pain just so it does not upset someone else.
Southern law girl
Researching my viewpoint....
10:12 PM on 01/24/2012
There is something in what Asrajit is saying. This is such a minefield of potential complications that you have to ask the question, would any reasonable society allow this to happen by leglislation? Could this be the slippery slope? Too much power in doctors hands? Should there be an okay go ahead put me down document!
The problems range from those with a living will, to those who have advanced terminal or mental illness. In between you have the relatives!
Dealing first with the living will shortcomings. There is a living will, staff at the hospital are aware of this, but it may not be the right time by either act or desire, will they consider this fact? First opportunity, they go ahead without even considering a proper prognosis, quick and easy!
Dealing with advanced terminal illness or mental illness. We are talking about the vulnerable, the disabled, those who through no fault of their own have shortcomings in their mental capacity, there should never be a situation where these people can be taken advantage of, and I think a law like assisted suicide invites problems like this. They could be wealthy individuals, there could be very greedy relatives or friends waiting in the wings who give a very biased go ahead to doctors,
Personally, I would never wish to get involved with this, I would not trust people to play God, I believe in nature taking its course, with help from palliative care if I were very ill.
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SecularAdvocate
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01:38 PM on 01/24/2012
What a delight it would be if Scotland could become independent and forged ahead with all the progressive reforms of our mired-in--the-dark-ages stupidity that takes ten times longer to slough off than it should.

And no-one should speak on this subject until they have watched someone they love dissolve from being alive to being dead over a miserably long period of time, with never any hope of recovery. It shouldn't happen to a dog, and strangely, in this country of animal lovers, it doesn't.
02:00 PM on 01/24/2012
Oops, No free speach then in the new Scotland???
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SecularAdvocate
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02:23 PM on 01/24/2012
LOL. Good point. And I'm an even worse hypocrite than that, because normally I hate it when someone who's been involved in a train wreck suddenly becomes qualified to pontificate on train safety.

So, yeah, you got me. Ouch.
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minimemo
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01:27 PM on 01/24/2012
Could always start with Margo - only ever been interested in getting her name attached to something, anything!
12:59 PM on 01/24/2012
Open the door to assisted suicide,close the door on compassion and research into terminally degenerative diseases.Assisted suicide will be a Pandora's box without the hope and with the prospect of serious abuses.Look at the horrendous slaughter of the innocents which has been the consequence of ourabortion laws.
02:04 PM on 01/24/2012
If it is accepted and anything seems to be possible these days from this Scottish Government, it needs to be very well writen legislation with plenty of safeguards and closely monitored in operation. Also of course only for those who have said they wish to take advance of this type of thing legally. The only problem would be then is that there will be those who say it is too stinguent for those that wish to die to take the option up.

I do agree that we should be going in that direction, as they say we wouldn't expect our animals to have to go through this type of thing.
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Norman Mitchison
12:43 PM on 01/24/2012
The survival instinct is strong, so clarity of mind and mental state must be considered. A very controversial subject, and if legalised would pose many problems as there would be no turning back.
12:19 PM on 01/24/2012
I am very much in favour for assisted suicides after watching my best friend my gran and my dad die a very painful slow death.... my friend fought cancer for 20 years and could not fight anymore so asked not to get any more chemo and so just had pain relief which did not completly take it away it took 3 weeks to die.. my dad was in hospital and died with starvation and dihydration.as it was not on his notes to hand feed him .it took him 6 weeks to die as he got MRSA in the bargain to so he was eaten away from inside he asked to go and stop his suffering but was refused . BRING IN ASSISSTED SUICDE
12:08 PM on 01/24/2012
well done margo, i would come and reside in scotland anytime.
10:34 AM on 01/24/2012
I can see both sides of the argument on assisted suicide, but I come down firmly on the side of that it should be allowed. It would need very careful monitoring by a totally independent body set up from lay people, and would be something that the person would be able to self-administer [where physically possible]. I believe that in some cases there is a computer which asks a series of questions which you have to respond to. If the continued answer is YES , then the machine starts to administer.

I further believe that certain doctors should be able to assist where people are unable themselves, but where they have expressed a continued wish for it to happen. These doctors should be volunteers and should remain completely anonymous.

I know that if I found myself in the situation that some poor souls do, I wouldn't want to carry on. I firmly believe that life is for living and enjoying, and if I could't I wouldn't wish to carry on.