Scottish Independence: Alex Salmond Says New Scotland Will Be A 'Beacon For Progressive Opinion'

Alex Salmond Scottish Independence

First Posted: 24/01/2012 10:45 Updated: 24/01/2012 10:45   PA

Alex Salmond hopes to position an independent Scotland as a "beacon for progressive opinion" for those south of the border.

The Scottish First Minister, writing in the Guardian newspaper on Tuesday, sought to compare policies, particularly on health, with those of the Tory-led Westminster government.

He is due to expand on the theme in the annual Hugo Young lecture for the Scott Trust, which owns the paper, in London tonight.

Salmond wrote: "An independent Scotland can be a beacon for progressive opinion south of the border and further afield, addressing policy challenges in ways that reflect the universal values of fairness and are capable of being considered, adapted and implemented according to the circumstances and wishes within the other jurisdictions of these islands and beyond.

"That is a far more positive and practical Scottish contribution to progressive policy than sending a tribute of Labour MPs to Westminster to have the occasional turn at the Westminster tiller - particularly as the opposition's policy is increasingly converging with that of the coalition on the key issues of the economy and public spending."

Salmond, the Scottish National Party leader, has an overall majority at the Scottish Parliament and intends to hold a referendum on independence in autumn 2014.

Before his speech tonight, he underlined his ambition to bring about independence as the means by which people can "best fulfil their potential".

He recalled the support given at a BBC Question Time appearance in Liverpool where he urged English voters not to allow Westminster parties to "destroy" the NHS south of the border.

And he highlighted Scottish policies for free university tuition, no prescription charges and free personal care for the elderly.

Scotland was also first in the UK to implement a smoking ban in enclosed public places, he said.

Salmond said the current British constitutional settlement prevents Scotland from "innovating" in more areas, such as welfare.

He added that an independent Scotland would play an "active and responsible" role in the world.

"After Scotland becomes independent, we will share more than a monarchy and a currency. We will share a social union," he said.

"It just won't be the same as a restrictive state which no longer serves the interests of either Scotland or England."

But a poll carried by the newspaper showed the SNP still has work to do if it wants Scotland to leave the union.

The ICM survey put support at 30% with 63% against. A YouGov poll for Channel 4 on January 16 showed 39% support for independence, with 61% opposed.

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18:54 on 29/01/2012
see the difference? germany united and the UK divided. forget the war, at the end, the german people won and germany is now europe's most significant economy, and the british people? well, there's no such thing as british, only english and scottish. i wonder when wales is going its own way too
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22:04 on 24/01/2012
As I've said before, I have no issue with Scotland gaining independence from the UK, BUT, it must be on the same basis as the other countries which left the Empire to join the Commonwealth (assuming they want to be part of the Commonwealth), i.e. stand on your own two feet, financially, socially, militarily and politically. If you can do then then bide ye well. At the moment Mr Salmond seems to want to have his cake and eat it, which will do no good to anyone.
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22:56 on 24/01/2012
Scotland would be part of the Commonwealth if for no other reason that the head of the Commonwealth has a job as Her Grace, Elizabeth, Queen of Scots.
In financila terms Scotland will do alright and possibly a fair bit better than the neighbours. Socially.. I'm not sure quite what you mean there Dave.
Military matters are likelt to rest on heavy negotiation followed by Scottish membership in NATO which will eventually make us as independent as the UK, only without the nukes which we certainly want no part of.
Politically.. again I'm not sure what you mean... Independence is about as politically independent as independence gets is it not? We would elect our own governments and they would then answer to us. That's how independence is supposed to be.
21:21 on 24/01/2012
For me this Independence thing does not ring true

The Labour Voting Scottish MAjority voted Blair and Brown in 1997 , they then proceeded to go on theri spend spend spend binge and double the public sector
And the Scottish banks did more than their fair share when they took a step too far .
Now the Tories are in , and they are trying to pay back the deficit and making us live within our means .
And Seeming Scotland rejects this medicine and thinks if they Vote SNP , they will lead them to some Sunny future ?

Surely the Scots will take a fair share of the debts and the baggage from the Banks , with them ?

Yet seemingly they will be even better off with North Sea Oil , and Wind Turbine revenue , pouring in .

Improved living standard s does not strike me as sufficent reason for "freedom " as they call it .
Surely you would want to be "Free " whatever the cost ? Like the Irish back in 1916 .

I do Think the Socts played thier share in getting the UK into this debt mire they find themsleves , and I would not want to Jump ship and leave them to it .

Surely in times of Economic lamnet we are better sticking together
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21:38 on 24/01/2012
A few wee points to make;
Blair and Brown were elected into office on English votes. Scots votes were not needed to prop them up.
The banks have the word "Scotland" in their names but they are internationally owned with shares traded on the LSE. Their de-regulation was dreamed up at Westminster and their gambling was fuelled largely from America.
The Tories have yet to do anything very sensible about anything in the last 2 years and expecting them to start now is naive.
In 2014 we are not being asked to vote for or against the SNP. The question on the referendum will have no mention of political parties.
Of course Scotland will shoulder it fair share of the UK's national debt when (or indeed if) we reclaim our independence.
The independence debate is about more than money. A major part of it is about self determination. Making our decisions based on democracy in our country where we elect the government we want and don't just have to accept the government our neighbours want.
Your raising the matter of the 1916 rising in Ireland; fortunately things are not in that same desperate state here yet. Hopefully it won't ever come to that.
Normal countries all around the world have independence. "Better sticking together," sounds like the sort of sloganeering we're hearing from the anti-independence camp who want Scotland to remain abnormal.
22:02 on 24/01/2012
Blair and Brown were elected into office on English votes. Scots votes were not needed to prop them up

Still the majority of Scots voted them in ?


The banks have the word "Scotland" in their names


They bought American banks with bad debts , they are Headquartered in Edniburgh with Scottish Senior Management , and were considered the Flagships of the Scottish Economy when Oil was in the Doldrums


The independen­ce debate is about more than money. A major part of it is about self determinat­ion.


Never heard much talk of Independence all my life , apart from my History teacher at School , SNP have always been popualr with Academics
certainly not 1997-2010 when Labour were in power (and the Majority of Scots voted for them )


The Tories have yet to do... naive.


True they cant get benefits capped at 26k as well , too much bad medicine having to dish out , Country may well need 10 years to get out of this , its harder to cut back than it is to borrow , and I dont envy them the task .


Your raising the matter of the 1916 rising in Ireland;

Did Scotland not do their share against the Irish ? Scots regiments stationed there, Black and Tans had afair share of Scots

Cant see the X- factor generation going to extremes myself ...unless there is a free Iphone at the end of it ;-)
22:18 on 24/01/2012
The independen­ce debate is about more than money. A major part of it is about self determinat­ion. Making our decisions based on democracy in our country where we elect the government we want and don't just have to accept the governmen
@Westlothin

Love of Country is admirable and if you want to live in a free Scotland and be materially poorer as a result , then I respect you for that .

An Indpendent Scotland does not enter my life , I am too busy working all hours and paying tax and contributiong 100% to help my Country through this difficult time (the Uk )

it matters not to me if a Englishman , a Norwegian or a Sikh is our prime minister , in the sam way I dont ask for the nationality of teachers at my Sons school , or bther about the ethnic make up at the local Hospital
We are all a fully multicultural society now , and a Scottish culture sits comfortably alongside foreign cultures
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00:18 on 25/01/2012
Hi again...

Labour voting has been a Scottish trait for a while right enough, but the Holyrood election last year seemed a bit different. The council elections in May this year will show if the trend is ongoing. I suspect it might.

RBS remains HQ'd in Edinburgh right enough, but their losses were made while playing in the City of London casino under Westminsters rules. Had they been properly regulated they would not have taken the spectacular nosedive we are all paying for now.

If you didn't hear much talk of independence other than from school days you must be mixing in radically different circles to me. Its been a topic since the 1970's for me since I reached voting age.

The Tories will continue to serve their paymasters' interests at the expense of the people of the UK. Some things just do not change.

You mention the Black & Tans and Scots soldiery in Ireland. That in no way relates to the mention of 1916 Easter Uprising as you put it in your first post. My response to that was that we in Scotland will hopefully never be driven to the point of armed insurrection in the same way.

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00:19 on 25/01/2012
Part 2.

I don't believe I will be poorer in an Independent Scotland. There is no credible evidence suggesting I would be, while there is plenty to suggest I would be a bit less poor. I too work as many hours as I am able and make my contribution to the UK. I would much prefer making that contribution to a country where it was respected a little more.

Your mention of multiculturalism has no bearing on whether Scotland should or could be a successful country with its own government in Edinburgh, elected by and serving its own people.

Your wee joke about the X-Factor generation raised a smile though and I agree with you on their appalling apathy.
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15:49 on 24/01/2012
The problem for a lot of unionist politicians is that Scotland can pay her way and more.AS has already pointed towards this and produced documentation to back this up. A lot of Englsih people are going to be angry with their policians as to being lied to for so long. Scottish people are already angry with our Vichy LabLibDumTories who would sell their grandmothers to keep their snouts in the Westminster trough. Scotland would like to move forward into an interesting future as a partner of the English people, not as a lackey. Join us in shaping the future for both our countrys.
13:54 on 24/01/2012
Opinion? Its pounds and pence which count these days, and paying your way. If Scoitland can achieve that then maybe someone will listen to its opinion.
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14:12 on 24/01/2012
Oddly enough, people still seem to be paying heed to the UK and USA both of which are still in the process of sinking under their debts.
23:18 on 24/01/2012
Not this one. Living and working in South America we are seeing more growth and opportunity than either the US or Europe can expect, in the short to medium term at least. I am much amused seeing certain of the more successful Latin American leaders telling the US and Europe to get their acts together! The Scots, by the way, have a fine reputation out here, as engineers and entrepreneurs, going back many, many years.