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London 2012 Olympics: Sex Discrimination Case Emerges For Banned Mothers And Babies

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First Posted: 25/01/2012 11:38 Updated: 25/01/2012 11:38   PA

Mothers who want to take their babies to the Olympic Games may have a case for sex discrimination if they are prevented from doing so, it has emerged.

Rules set by 2012 organisers say every baby - including those who were not conceived when their parents bought seats - must have their own ticket or they will be excluded from the Games.

Expectant mothers have described the policy as "discriminatory", especially to those new mothers who will be breastfeeding.
Most tickets went on sale last April - 15 months before the Games.

Expectant parents have been told they can try to buy an extra ticket for their chosen event, although there are concerns that none will be available for popular events, forcing mothers to stay at home.

Under the current rules, expectant parents who are successful in getting an extra ticket for their baby will be able to hold the infant in their laps.

They will need to show the baby has a ticket for somewhere in the venue, even if they do not plan to use the seat.

Last night a spokesman for London 2012 said organisers would look again at the policy.

He said: "We want families and young people to come and enjoy the Games, which is why we created Pay Your Age tickets at a third of sessions.

"Of course, we understand that some new mums may want to take their babies to events they have tickets to and we will look at what we can do when the remaining tickets go on sale in April."

The spokesman stressed that ticket guides and online information before tickets were sold said babies and children would need their own seats.

But this information did not include a policy on babies conceived after their parents bought tickets.

The issue has attracted fury on the Mumsnet website, with parents saying they are being forced to pay full price for babies not yet born. Others said they could miss out altogether.

Ticketholder Rosalind Ereira told the Guardian she has contacted the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), which said she may have a case for "indirect sex discrimination", as the policy is more likely to affect women than men.

In a statement to the Guardian, the EHRC said: "A business must not do something which has a worse impact on you and on other people who share a particular protected characteristic, such as gender, than it has on people who do not share that characteristic.

"Unless the business can show that what they have done is objectively justified, this will be what is called indirect discrimination.

"It could be argued that women are more likely to have child caring responsibilities and thus this policy might have more of an impact for women, but as stated above the business might be able to justify this potential discrimination."

Justine Roberts, co-founder and chief executive of Mumsnet said yesterday: "It's an ill-thought-out policy and I think the feeling on Mumsnet is that it's discriminatory.
"If you have got a very young baby, you can't leave it behind if you're breastfeeding, you have got to take it with you."

She said expectant parents had been left with a situation where they had to pay full price for another ticket, if they could get one, which would make it impossible for some new mothers to go.

"It shows a lack of understanding in many ways," she said.

"What were you supposed to do? Buy a ticket for a potentially unborn or unconceived child?"

The National Indoor Arena (NIA) in Birmingham, which hosts a range of international sporting events, said its policy for those is that babies do not need a ticket to attend.

A spokesman said: "We don't have a strict age policy in place. However, we say that generally before a child is walking, we are happy for them to be admitted without a ticket.

"Once a child is old enough to be walking and requires their own seat, it is then necessary for them to be ticketed."

The NIA said venue policy can be subject to change on a show-by-show basis.

At Lord's cricket matches, babies and toddlers under three go in for free.

Wimbledon does not recommend babies are taken. Children under five are allowed in without a ticket - but may not enter Centre Court or the other show courts.

At Wembley Stadium, restrictions vary on an event-by-event basis. For those events which do allow children under 16, all spectators must have a ticket.

At Twickenham Stadium, children under two do not require a ticket but must be securely strapped to an adult sitting in the lower tier.

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17:18 on 25/01/2012
These mothers could always express their milk and hire a babysitter. This is not a case of discrimination, it is a case of problem solving.
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17:14 on 25/01/2012
Unless fathers are allowed to bring infants and mothers aren't than I don't see how this could be sex discrimination. If anything it's the plaintiffs here that are sexist in their assumption that fathers are less interested in taking care of their children.

Yes, I know the response is "breastfeeding!!!" but honestly bringing pumped milk or formula (there's no evidence that the occasional bottle of formula is problematic at all) is the smart move in these situations anyway. Fathers can take care of a baby just as well as a mother.

These people are either bigots or just whining for a handout (or both).
16:08 on 25/01/2012
So people get upset when they hear babies crying?

Dear me. I hope it won't spoil their enjoyment too much when Paula Radcliffe breaks down, or someone wins a medal and has a bit of a weep.
15:54 on 25/01/2012
Quite frankly children under 5 should be banned - if i'm sitting near a howling baby I will not be happy.
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17:21 on 25/01/2012
thats nice of you, wonder how many people you annoyed in infancy which your mother ignored. Suppose it will be fine when you're jumping around cheering your lungs out at the egg n spoon event.
21:02 on 25/01/2012
My parents never took me to large public events, because kids don't understand these things and spoil it for others when they get restless. Besides I was never a cryer - I use to hold breath til I passed out as a toddler if I wanted to go home - silent and effective!

Its not fair on the kids either to take them into major crowded areas.

I will not be found at egg and spoon - I don't have kids and never will out of choice.
15:33 on 25/01/2012
There are 2 points in this topic I would like to write about, and I hope people don't think i'm being nasty cos that isn't my intention.

Why would a famil want to take a newborn or a few months old baby to the games? They wouldn't know what's going off anyways.

Point number 2. Why is the IOC planning on charging a person who had the joy to consieve after the tickets when on general sale? The lady will be still using a seat for herself as the baby wouldn't be born yet. This 2nd statement I feel is total discrimmination against a mother to be.
14:45 on 25/01/2012
I did't know that breastfeeding was an Olympic event, lol.
16:22 on 25/01/2012
it would be more entertaining than 99% of the events
14:16 on 25/01/2012
Typical, people trying to get their family in for free by buying tickets and then having babies. If I bought a ticket then got a dog I wouldn't expect to be able to bring that either. Why is this an issue? Some places aren't too good for new borns anyway.
14:15 on 25/01/2012
I don't understand why a parent would want to take their baby to the Olympics - they can't enjoy or appeciate it and it will ruin othe rpeople's enjoyment when they try to focus on a spectacular sporting event and being prevented from doing so by a screaming baby next to you when the mother refuses to do anything, just saying "its alright sometimes they just need to cry". Bad enough on the bus let alone paying hundreds of pounds for the privelidge.

I don't have a problem with babies/children but I do have a problem with the apparent majority of parents in the country who can't accept that when you have a baby your life DOES completely change to fit around that baby - the baby nor the world should have to fit around you. If I were able to bear children of my own I would acccept this fact.

That said if its a nursing baby I don't see the problem as just start nursing it and it stops crying. Or if it is a child they bring and the child is well-behaved, as then they have just as much right to attend the Games as anyone else. But the comment about "Shoudl we have to buy tickets for unborn babies" is a very immature argument - of course not but if its a bun that needs a seat (ie too old or big to spend the whole time in mum/dad's arms or lap) then they should pay.
14:04 on 25/01/2012
How does it make it sex discrimination exactly??? For heaven's sake woman grow up and stop giving us a bad name ..no wonder the world doesnt take us seriously.
16:01 on 25/01/2012
Because if an action has the effect of penalising one sex more than another (and if nursing mothers are more likely to be affected than fathers then that effect will have been realised), then it is by definition, sex discriination.

That the lor, that is.
16:23 on 25/01/2012
the fathers could feed the babies using either expressed or powered milk, so it isnt discrimination
17:33 on 25/01/2012
sorry but in my opinion it's just a bunch of whinging women wanting something for free and wanting something to gripe about :) and yes I am a woman lol
13:32 on 25/01/2012
what absolute nonsense - again - the current trend of moving the earth so parents and their kids can be accommodated, to the detriment of everyone else, gets the campaigners into first gear. These days, Mum's think the world revolves around them. What about everybody else? Who on earth would want to go to watch the Olympics, only to be stuck with screaming ( bored) kids next to you..... certainly not me. These Mums need to grow up and become the adult that goes with being a parent - sometimes being a parent means sacrificing some things... leave the kids at with a carer if you simply MUST go to the Olympics.
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15:37 on 25/01/2012
a carer that can breastfeed?

This isnt about "kids" its about newborns.
16:24 on 25/01/2012
leave expressed milk or a formula bottle.
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13:17 on 25/01/2012
It's not a good venue for new babies... Don't women know this is 2012... They have wonderful pumps these days. I can tell you that it is not going to hurt anything to let grandma babysit and feed the baby a bottle or two while moms/MUMS are out having a little fun... Lighten up.
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semantics shamantics
15:39 on 25/01/2012
those wonderful pumps wont work for the majority of mothers in their first few days or weeks. These women bought tickets, they should be allowed to go with their babies. If the venue isnt suitable for babies why are they selling tickets for babies?
16:09 on 25/01/2012
Good point, Wisdo.
16:24 on 25/01/2012
then use formula it wont harm the baby