Apprenticeships Could Provide Better Value For Money, NAO Report Finds

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The Huffington Post UK   Dina Rickman First Posted: 1/02/2012 07:04 Updated: 1/02/2012 07:04

The government could get more value-for-money from adult apprenticeships, according to a report by spending watchdog the national audit office.

The body said the department of business, innovation and skills (BiS) over-estimated the amount of money their spending returned, through over-estimating the amount of money employers contributed to training.

The NAO said BiS could get more out of their scheme, which currently returns £18 for every £1 spent on it, through targeting resources.

Last year there were 442,700 apprenticeships, 314,400 of which were taken up by adults - an increase of 140% since 2006/7, with £500m per year spend on the programme.

However the majority are at a "lower level" than in other countries, with a third at advanced level in England compared to 60% in France.

NAO head Amywas Morse said BiS "needs to target resources more effectively, confirm the training provided is in addition to what would have been provided without public support and make sure that the funding system is informed by robust information on the cost of delivery."

Margaret Hodge, chairperson of the public accounts committee said there were "troubling signs" the market for apprenticeships was not working as intended.

"Many employers are not paying their share towards training costs, the payments made to providers do not always reflect the costs of delivering training, and apprenticeships are concentrated in a small number of areas.

"We will want to know how the Department is making sure it targets its resources towards those areas and qualifications that have the most impact on the economy."

Skills Minister John Hayes said: "Unprecedented investment, backed by tough new measures to ensure that quality matches quantity, has helped make apprenticeships the gold standard vocational qualification.

"So I am delighted that the NAO has recognised the progress we have made and that they identify the extraordinary economic benefits of apprenticeships. Few, if any, other Government programmes produce anything like the return of £18 for every £1 spent, let alone the still greater return that our economists estimate."

Gordon Marsden MP, Labour’s Shadow Minister for Further Education, Skills & Regional Growth said the report showed the department for education needed to cooperate more with BiS.

"This is something which Labour has long been arguing for, with our call for colleges and businesses to be given a much bigger say in boosting growth in the regions and jobs for young people on the back of expanded apprenticeship take-up.

“The latest quarterly apprenticeship figures show that the Government is still struggling to achieve any significant increase in apprenticeships for young people in crucial 16-24 age range at a time when youth unemployment has risen above 1 million. We have called on Ministers to back our plans to boost apprenticeship numbers, particularly for young people, including through smarter Government procurement.”

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02:10 PM on 02/02/2012
I would be willing to bet that most apprenticeships last for well over 9 months. The IT one got through www.bigdog.co.uk lasts for 12 plus I get a job at the end of it!
12:46 PM on 02/01/2012
Some of these apprenticships are rubbish. How can you learn to be an electrician or a plumber in 3 months? which is what is happening now.It used to take years to train in these jobs
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David Daisy May Boldock
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01:14 PM on 02/01/2012
Absolutely i concur. It was something like four years with a City and Guilds course as i recall
Even this states 1-2 years
http://www.cityandguilds.com/48182.html
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03:44 PM on 02/01/2012
jean1stephenson, you can't. My husband always looks indignant when those advertisements come on tv saying you can do it in three months in your own time. He started off as an electrician and it took years to get City & Guilds.
He now works as an electrical maintenace engineer on oil and gas pipelines and teaches graduate electrical engineers how to do the job he does not have a degree in. He doesn't understand how anyone can learn how to be an electrician or a plumber in three months.
I would not want one working on my electrics or plumbing, would anyone else on here?
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David Daisy May Boldock
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04:13 PM on 02/01/2012
Neither would i lass :-)
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Norman Mitchison
12:41 PM on 02/01/2012
Deport a few illegals so there are job vacancies for youngsters.
Kraptonfactor
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03:47 PM on 02/01/2012
Norman, it's not just the illegals, the jobs are taken by Eastern Europeans who will work for low wages, live a dozen to a bedsit and send their money home to where it buys more.
11:52 AM on 02/01/2012
I am a employer building trade could learn the younger generation loads but health and safety rubbish Men in suits telling us more fees just making the suits more money /wear hard hat when you are working on road etc whats going to fall a Plane, plaster ceiling with a hard hat
don’t use ladders the problem is to much H.S.E this is what has done england go abroad yes HSE signs but no one takes notice they walk about in sandals made up timber ladders the government P.A.Y.E
is a nightmare all they want is the N/I Contributions more tax giving employee sick pay, holiday pay, maternity leave for Men and 1year for women if you sack then to court Never had all this lot of rubbish from the government in the 60 70 80 if no good you got sacked and that was that but now all they want is nvcs go to college get degrees no jobs but college gets then off the streets. keeps jobless figures down
Trouble is the P/M (tory /lib /.labour ) all house of lords don’t live in the real world they are Masons who line their own pockets where’s tony Blaire / Gordon brown nice job now earning millions never had to start from the bottom
so they bring in all these rules about employing people workers right s disciplinary proceedings tribunals done away with self employed because the rich was not getting they cut
11:40 AM on 02/01/2012
Mickey Mouse although i agree with you in part this post you keep putting on is getting rarther boring. A lot of people get nothing like £26k a year . Maybe your dole office is more upmarket than ours.
11:29 AM on 02/01/2012
I couldnt agree more. There are young people out there without a job or trade. Take the age restrictions off of apprenticeships. thgere are people over 25years of age that would welcome the chance to learn a trade. Instead of giving them benefits, give the companies a cash bonus to take apprentices.
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03:52 PM on 02/01/2012
angieglenda, I read recently that some firms can't afford to take on apprentices due to the red tape involved, some of which involved paying hundreds of pounds to insure them to be in the workplace at all.
Incentives have to be put in place to encourage businesses to take on apprentices with a genuine offer of a job at the end of it, not just to keep them off the streets to massage unemployment figures.
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Mickey Mouse 1
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08:56 AM on 02/01/2012
What is the point in having appenticeships when the government will pay fit and healthy people £26,000 per year in welfare benefits to sit at home and do nothing?
12:26 PM on 02/01/2012
Mickey mouse, you are taking through your backside there are millions of school leavers wanting to get ahead in a career, are you going to deny they chance of getting funded?, plus how many people do you actually know claim £26,000 on benefits?
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03:58 PM on 02/01/2012
Katypds, there have been some prolific breeders in the media recently boasting about how much they love having children, unfortunately they don't see why they have to pay for them. Some of them have claimed to be on similar amounts of benefit to that quoted by Mickey Mouse 1. They also expect social housing to accommodate their growing brood.
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09:26 AM on 02/02/2012
Katy

We all know someone who is fit and healthy, with all their marbles, who has never had a job since they left school thirty years ago. They are quite content to sit at home doing nothing on benefits.

My local garage is full of Bulgarians who have left their families to come here to work because they can make more money than they can back home. The financial services sector is full of immigrants who clean floors, make the tea and sandwiches and serve the customer. British companies are currently advertising for people in Romania to come and work in Britain.
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12:56 PM on 02/01/2012
The only people claiming that kind of benefits are famillies with 4-5 kids. Single kids leaving school won't get a fraction of that.
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09:39 AM on 02/02/2012
The current trend in the UK is for single women to churn out kids to different fathers in order to improve the amount of benefits they get. In other words, they are government sponsored baby factories. Their kids grow up running around wild and usually end up in the news because they have ganged up and killed an innocent victim. Then we get an outcry about ferule kids. These kids learn from their mothers and naturally also end up on benefits. Then you get generations of people living on benefits who have never had a job in their lives.