Welfare Reform Bill Defeated For Seventh Time, Long Night Expected On Wednesday

House Of Lords Iain Duncan Smith

The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 31/01/2012 15:24 Updated: 31/01/2012 17:07

The Government has been defeated for a seventh time in the Lords on the Welfare Reform Bill, this time over the amount paid to children who are receiving the lower rate of Disability Allowance (DLA). The government wants to cut the total paid out to children receiving the lower rate, because they say payments to children have grown out-of-kilter with those paid to adults.

Peers opposing the move said it would affect 100,000 families, and voted for the amendment by 246 to 230. Not the biggest defeat in the long battle in the Lords over welfare reform, but it only adds to the uphill battle facing ministers.

MPs are preparing for a potentially long night on Wednesday as they consider amendments to the Welfare Reform Bill made by the Lords. The government is adamant it will seek to overturn the amendments made by peers, including their rejection on charging single parents to use the Child Support Agency.

That amendment saw the biggest defeat for the coalition since it came to power - a majority of 142. Despite this the Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith has pledged to push the charges through, saying they're "better for the children" as they would encourage parents to negotiate rather than using the CSA.

Ministers' apparent determination to push the charges through parliament raises the prospect of 'ping-pong' between the two houses on Wednesday afternoon. Both the Commons and the Lords could be in for a late night, depending on how far the Lords wants to test the will of the elected chamber.

If there's no agreement, the government can choose to invoke the Parliament Act to over-ride the Lords and pass the Welfare Reform Bill into law. But the technicalities of this mean it can only be done in the next session of parliament - that's after the Queen's Speech expected in May.

The other Lords amendments in full:

Amendment 1, passed today, brings the total to seven. MPs will begin debating the amendments in the Commons straight after PMQs on Wednesday.

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The Government has been defeated for a seventh time in the Lords on the Welfare Reform Bill, this time over the amount paid to children who are receiving the lower rate of Disability Allowance (DLA). ...
The Government has been defeated for a seventh time in the Lords on the Welfare Reform Bill, this time over the amount paid to children who are receiving the lower rate of Disability Allowance (DLA). ...
 
 
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09:54 AM on 11/02/2012
TORIES ARE PURE NASTY,GREEDY SELF SERVING OAFS.
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12:31 PM on 02/01/2012
How about creating a few undeserving new peers, guaranteed to vote as the government wishes, in order to push through the Welfare Reform Bill? You can always take their peerages away again, when this particular campaign is over. By that time they'll certainly have done something or other an honours committee can zap them with.
05:34 AM on 02/01/2012
thatcher set up the csa to get the cash and make people responsible good idea persons should not be charged for getting justice to maintance
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There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
10:45 PM on 01/31/2012
If fit and healthy people can get £26 grand a year for staying at home and doing nothing, is it any wonder that my local garage is stuffed with Bulgarians washing cars?
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10:07 PM on 01/31/2012
Labour depend on their loyal support on welfare benefits, so, you can forget ever reforming the system.
08:41 PM on 01/31/2012
This government disgusts me. These so called reforms are an abomination which punish some of the most vulnerable people in society for their sickness and disability.

David Cameron's own son was disabled. The man is a multi-millionaire and yet he had the audacity to claim DLA, and free nappies from the NHS. Both of which support and services he is now trying to destroy.

As for IDS who considers himself a christian? What a joke. I'm not sure whether that 'fact' is an insult to christians or a boost to atheists.
05:26 AM on 02/01/2012
he got carers allowance for a son he did not look after apparently you can get it to help pay towards a carer for your son relative person while you work yet i cannot have it my husband blind through diabetes and on dialysis soon yet madam miller states understands my anxiety
08:14 PM on 01/31/2012
Looks like the conservatives are stumbling in their use of the Shock Doctrine of using the financial crisis to destroy social programs that they don't like.

They better hurry or soon the conservatives will miss their opportunity as the people catch on to what they're doing to them.
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05:40 PM on 01/31/2012
Yes this corrupt Conservative is cutting money to the poor and needy in the UK, but those Bankers that are in charge of state owned Banks can pay themselves as much Bonuses as they like, and government refuse to intervene and stop these greedy millionaire Bankers plundering Public Funds. so it is making legislation to curtail the poor for getting to much money, but the millionaire Bankers can have and take as much taxpayers money as they like. The usual corrupt Conservative Party helping the wealthy AGAIN AT THE EXPENSE OF THE POOR, so what is new about the Right Wing Corrupt Conservative Government.
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