Bankers' Bonuses: Private Sector Banks Should Rein In Payouts Too, Says Ed Miliband

PA/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 09/02/2012 19:31 Updated: 10/04/2012 10:12

Private sector banks, as well as the state-backed Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Banking Group, have a responsibility to rein in big bonuses, Ed Miliband has said.

Speaking at the Sheffield Political Economy Research Institute on Thursday evening, the Labour leader said this was because while banks such as Barclays were not publicly owned they should show restraint as they were effectively underwritten by the taxpayer.

Barclays is to publish its annual profits and total bonus pot for 2011 on Friday. It well also reveal the size of the bonus awarded to its chief executive Bob Diamond.

"Some argue that it is no business of the public what bonuses banks pay," Miliband said.

"I fundamentally disagree, because even banks which are not publicly owned implicitly benefit from a taxpayer guarantee, to the tune of billions of pounds.

"That is why we need change in the bonus culture across all our banks, and we need responsibility from top to bottom across our society.

"Across the economy we need executives to recognise that exceptional rewards should only be for exceptional performance.

"Tackling excessive executive pay and bonuses is not an end in itself but a necessary first step towards a bigger change in our economy in which people get fair rewards for their contribution at every level of society."

Downing Street has so far not made any direct comment on Diamond's bonus, arguing it is different to the case of RBS boss Stephen Hester, as Barclay's did not take any direct money from the taxpayer during the financial crisis.

Miliband accused the government of defending the interests of the "irresponsible few" in the row over City bonuses.

And he dismissed suggestions he was "anti-business" for tackling excessive pay, insisting he was standing up for the wider economy.

His comments came after George Osborne bucked the current political debate by defending the principle of "rewards for success" in a speech to business leaders.

Osborne warned that the row over bonuses and pay threatened to undermine jobs and prosperity provided by a free market economy.

"George Osborne says that action to tackle big bonuses is 'anti-business'. It is not," Miliband said.

"It is pro-business to demand responsibility at the top and an end to the something-for-nothing culture which has damaged our economy in the financial crisis at every level, wrecked businesses and left everyone else squeezed.

"By defending an unreformed bonus culture, this government confuses the interests of the economy as a whole with the interests of an irresponsible few."

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Jerry Frey
unCommon sense for the common good
09:49 AM on 02/14/2012
Decide for yourself.

http://napoleonlive.info/did-you-know/facts-about-the-one-percent-2/
northern git
fed up with all the political crap in life
10:01 AM on 02/12/2012
a banker passes away and his soul gets to the pearly gates and the angels
'what did you do on earth?' tha angel asks
'made a load of money as a banker' he replies
'how much?''
well i must have made about £30million in bonuses alone' boasts the banker
'impressive, but did you do any good with it?'
'not much really spent most of my time counting it'
'and you think you still have it?'
'yes it is following' the arrogant banker says
'sod off' says the angel 'you can't take it with you'

motto for bankers

DO SOME GOOD FOR A CHANGE

you can't take it with you no matter how much you make
02:35 PM on 02/10/2012
Its a private company,nothing to do with politicions. They can pay what they want,look at football clubs.Public owned banks are a different matter.
01:40 PM on 02/10/2012
Banker's, Public Sector and Business bonuses all are controlled by the contracts agreed by both employee and employer. Everyone bitches but when we see that the England football manager is on £6 million (5 times waht the boss of RBS was on) and what did he do at the World Cup, one wonders whether we have got it right!

Everyone likes to earn a bonus, whether it is in the form of overtime, performance related or whatever. The question has to be 'Are they worth it?' and 'Did they deserve it?' To often, it appears, bonuses are given for either poor or mediocre performance and that makes us all dis-satisfied.

However, as the previous government (Ed Balls?) negotiated the contract for the boss of RBS, perhaps Mr Milliband would like to explain why he now 'fundamentally disagrees' with it?
10:27 AM on 02/10/2012
Why is it ANYONE'S business WHAT a Bank pays it's employees as long as the LAW is followed and SERVICE is good.....a State held Bank is another creature altogether and then the State DOES have a right to say what and how a banker is paid...don't take the State's money, don't get your pay regulated. The argument coming from the City regarding it's bankers FLEEING to places like Singapore (how many London bankers COULD fit in Singapore's Banks anyway?) is just nonsense. The more important issue ISN'T Banker's Bonuses but the TAX on Banking transactions between Banks that is and should be the focus. The banks and the Coalition are doing a good job in hoodwinking the Public into focusing on this issue alone while the REAL PREY gets away. Tax the Banks. Listen to them scream. Then tell them to GET BACK to WORK...there's that Bonus to shoot for..now go get it!
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Michaelxx
09:35 AM on 02/10/2012
no good him going on like that.....he gets paid lots of money for doing nothing...other than to b/s us
northern git
fed up with all the political crap in life
09:18 AM on 02/10/2012
It is no good Millipede banging on about bonuses unless he can say he recognises the failings of his party when in power and says SORRY to the millions the banks have troubled. He has to stop Ed Balls from spouting and smirking on denying the past, of which he was architect and adviser.
True, the banker's bonus system needs reforming but so does parliament.
The MP's need to be paid on results only, wihout perks of allowances, expenses, bungs and hi life.

let him say they failed in many ways and that thir involvement with banking was a disaster with Brown. Then we can believe he is his own man
09:10 AM on 02/10/2012
So says about another fifty MPs but are any of them actually doing anything? NO.
All they do is repeat what we say to gain favour.
09:04 AM on 02/10/2012
There are lots of jealous people on here. If you think it is that easy to be a high level banker and earn lots of money I suggest you all go and do it. Not as easy as you think.
02:05 PM on 02/10/2012
Probably have to be in their club.
What is difficult about a job that no matter how badly you do it or fail, you will still reep massive rewards. To be quite honest, in most jobs they would be sacked.
06:39 PM on 02/10/2012
Like I said.
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guyview
03:28 PM on 02/10/2012
What kind of a genius are you?
06:39 PM on 02/10/2012
Like I said.
09:02 AM on 02/10/2012
I agree totally, but unfortunately no one cares, takes any notice or has any interest in what i think! and the same goes for Ed Miliband

And just a note to the Huff post hierarchy. Don't you think our Ed's important enough to add his name to your dictionary, so he doesn't keep coming up as a spelling Mistake. I know he's a mistake, but at least add him to spell check..
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08:37 AM on 02/10/2012
These ridiculous payments arn't even bonuses, they are in reality retainers. To get a bonus in a job you used to have to exceed targets and do something exceptional, not just have you name appear on the company books which as is the case here.
08:29 AM on 02/10/2012
The people who can stop these obscene payments are the shareholders.

They appoint the Board who should receive expenses only. It is up to the shareholders to vote them any additional payments out of their own funds..

Below the Board, all employees from top to bottom receive a very good salary to do their jobs. Bonus payments should be completely unnecessary and only paid from profits left over after making provision for resrves etc and paying a true dividend.
northern git
fed up with all the political crap in life
09:21 AM on 02/10/2012
You may be right about shareholders being able to stop these bonuses, but they, in the main, are institutions and not people and franly they don't care as long as they get their returns.

And therein lies the problem people and institutions do not care any more
10:34 AM on 02/10/2012
Returns would be far better if the dividends were improved in place of the bonuses. That in turn would improve the Stock Market.

I accept your point though. Case of apathy, inter mixing of boards and sheer greed
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jessjesskk
Benevolent Zombie Power
05:02 PM on 02/10/2012
when revenue depend solely on the motivation and effort of a single person (like in banking) with limited ability to be replaced, a company has to incentivize its employees to go beyond budget.
Take a banker with a target revenue to be generated of, say $10m a year. Assume you are lucky and you get to your budget in April. Why would you chase further deal during the year if you have no incentive to do it? With no bonus, as an individual you are incentivized to push the deal the following year and not make new revenue until the next year. This is why you have bonuses, to incentivize bankers to go beyond their budget, and to be motivated to do so. It is really that simple.
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mokgee
Sabu.Satsang, Samsara, Solitude...
08:26 AM on 02/10/2012
All politicians have to have the ability to lie well, it is part of their agenda to impress the dejected people of Britain. Multibland is upping the anti, to gain popularity as the country struggles yet again. He and they believe that people forget and forgive, to a degree thier training in deception is right for many but not all. People of Bitain, wake up to this boring perpetuality of lies by the supposed opposition, no matter which party, there is no opposition as such, only farce. We are the only ones who can break this disastrous chain of events by change it's self. We have absolutely nothing to lose by change, Wetminster is screaming out for it, because the rot is causing all kinds of horrible things to infest our democracy, heritage, history, soveriegnty..End of lecture.....
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Chiefy17242011
Cyber-Nat, Cyber-Democrat
08:24 AM on 02/10/2012
That Labour Plan for Regaining Power in Full

1: Deny any involvement of current leadership (plus possible replacements) with 13 failed years of Bliar and Brown Administrations. Not us Guv. We were only Junior Ministers and we couldn't really speak out.
2: Observe BandWagon
3: IMPORTANT: Check with Focus Group prior to
4: Jump on BandWagon
5: Er....
6: We're not the Nasty Tories you know. Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, Out, Out, Out.
7: Er....
8: That's It.
08:13 AM on 02/10/2012
What they are letting you know about bonuses is nothing to what they are getting behind the board room door .They could not lie straight in bed same as MPs