Baroness Warsi Off To Vatican To Make Case For Religion In Public Life

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PA/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 14/02/2012 08:22 Updated: 14/02/2012 11:48

Religion must be given a greater role in public life to push back a wave of "intolerant secularisation", Cabinet minister Baroness Warsi will argue during an official visit to The Vatican.

Warsi, a Muslim, will call for Europe to become "more confident in its Christianity" in a strident defence of faith, backed by Prime Minister David Cameron.

The peer is leading a high-level two-day delegation of seven British ministers to the Holy See, including three of her Cabinet colleagues, which has been granted an audience with Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday.

Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt, Secretary of State for Scotland Michael Moore and Northern Ireland Secretary Owen Paterson will also attend, along with International Development Minister Alan Duncan, Energy Minister Greg Barker and Foreign Office Minister Lord Howell of Guildford.

Despite Duncan and Barker being openly gay, the forthcoming free vote in the Commons on introducing gay marriage is said to be firmly off the agenda.

In the first speech to staff and students of the Pontifical Ecclesiastical Academy by an outside minister, Warsi will compare the intolerance of religion with totalitarian regimes.

"In order to encourage social harmony, people need to feel stronger in their religious identities, more confident in their beliefs. In practice this means individuals not diluting their faiths and nations not denying their religious heritages," she will say.

"If you take this thought to its conclusion then the idea you're left with is this: Europe needs to become more confident in its Christianity."

Speaking amid continued fallout over the High Court ruling that prayers cannot be a formal part of local council meetings, she said it was a myth that to protect minorities "we need to erase our religious heritage".

Christian roots "shine through our politics, our public life, our culture, our economics, our language and our architecture", she will argue.

"You cannot and should not extract these Christian foundations from the evolution of our nations any more than you can or should erase the spires from our landscapes."

Quoting the Bible, she will praise the role of the Catholic Church in toppling communism, securing peace in Northern Ireland and responding to natural disasters across the world.

The Pope had been right to warn, in a speech in Westminster Hall during his state visit to the UK last year, against an increasing marginalisation of religion," she will say.

"I see it in United Kingdom and I see it in Europe. Spirituality, suppressed. Divinity, downgraded.

"Where, in the words of the Archbishop of Canterbury, faith is looked down on as the hobby of 'oddities, foreigners and minorities'. Where religion is dismissed as an eccentricity because it's infused with tradition.

"Where we undermine people who attribute good works to their belief and require them to deny it as their motivation.

"And where faith is overlooked in the public sphere with not even a word about Christianity in the preface of the European Constitution.

"Our response has to be simple: holding firm in our faiths, holding back intolerant secularisation, reaffirming the religious foundations on which our societies are built and reasserting the fact that, for centuries, Christianity in Europe has been inspiring, motivating, strengthening and improving our societies.

"Politicians need to give faith a seat at the table in public life.

In an article for the Daily Telegraph ahead of the visit, she wrote: "For me, one of the most worrying aspects about this militant secularisation is that at its core and in its instincts it is deeply intolerant.

"It demonstrates similar traits to totalitarian regimes - denying people the right to a religious identity because they were frightened of the concept of multiple identities."

Baroness Warsi has regularly spoken out about the need to reassert religious influence on public life, and insisted in a speech on the eve of the Pontiff's visit last year that the coalition Government "does God".

In a rare foray on to the issue by a prime minister, David Cameron recently urged the Church of England to lead a revival of traditional Christian values to counter the country's "moral collapse".

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg is atheist.

The visit has been arranged to mark the 30th anniversary of the establishment of full diplomatic relations between the UK and the Holy See.

They will hold talks with Vatican officials on topics including inter-faith dialogue, human rights, environment and climate change and international development and are being lodged within the tiny city state.

However the visit comes after a poll of British Chrisitans, which suggests most feel religion should have no place in public life.

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03:19 PM on 02/17/2012
Although I am not a religious person, I feel in my bones that to foist a creature like Warsi onto the Vatican, is an insult to the pope's dignity.
08:56 AM on 02/16/2012
Isn't this the same Baroness Warsi involved in the expenses scandal? What short term memory we have!
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funkydoowopper
Reality is just an inconvenience for the right
08:17 PM on 02/15/2012
The representatives of religions have practiced extreme intolerance for centuries. Now that secularists say that such intolerance is no longer acceptable they are described as intolerant.
And Warsi "will praise the role of the Catholic Church in toppling communism"? That's presumably after she conveniently skips quickly over the Vatican's collaboration with the Nazi's and other fascist regimes.
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Philip J Sparrow
When your work speaks for itself, keep quiet
06:26 PM on 02/15/2012
'Militant' or 'intolerant' secularism are both complete oxymorons.
10:02 AM on 02/15/2012
It could be said we've declared Warsi on the Pope?
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gonro2
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04:24 AM on 02/15/2012
Wow ----a Muslim speaking in defense of Christianity ??? Now we're getting somewhere
01:50 AM on 02/15/2012
If only there was some idol, or some particular ceremony, or at least a recognized public holiday that was all-out atheistic or at least agnostic! At least that way, we could then have an atheist lobby, atheist causes banded about the media and all these other lovely benefits the religious bodies have. Bill Mayer got it 100% right when he spoke about this in America. There are less Jews, blacks and gays in America than there are atheists, so why in the hell do each of those groups have very powerful lobby groups and political manpower whilst atheists are allowed to be slammed and vilified left right and centre? At least then, we would have less rubbish like this topic to deal with all the bloody time.
12:50 AM on 02/15/2012
The concept of religion would make me laugh were it not for the fact that it has somehow managed to spew forth such misery worldwide over the centuries. Hopefully, the 21st century will be the one in which mankind finally comes to see it for what it really is and simply stop perpetuating its inexplicable hold over reason. Dump your 'gods' and get real.
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gonro2
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04:26 AM on 02/15/2012
yep and secularism is complicit in causing the the deaths of more innocents than the holocaust
02:43 PM on 02/15/2012
It's not secularism/religion which cause deaths...it's just bad people, be they religious, secularist, whatever. The difference being that religion claims the moral high ground but falls spectacularly short on every level. I'd sooner face honest evil than decietful 'good'.
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Philip J Sparrow
When your work speaks for itself, keep quiet
06:28 PM on 02/15/2012
How can you possibly argue that the Nazis were secular?
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Ppenguinator
Life's too imprtant to be taken seriously.
09:06 PM on 02/14/2012
Lets see who disagrees with Warsi:

The Atheists and Agnostics who make up the majority of this country.
The vast majority of Christians, the second largest religious group.
Most Christian leaders, who tend to be left-wing.
Presumably, most members of other religions, who would be pushed aside if Christians were given preferential treatment.

Now lets see who agrees with Warsi:
Baroness Warsi herself.
Other out-of-touch members of the conservative party.
UKIP.
The BNP.
08:57 PM on 02/14/2012
Secularism unites. Religion divides.
07:38 PM on 02/14/2012
This Warsi lady just goes round and talks facts-free. She should understand this is not some place where people don't understand what's happening. We read the news from different sources and we are quite aware of what is happening in the world. France and even spanin have what would seem to be more restrictions on religion than we do here. yes, there are more outspoken atheists in the Uk but that in no way translates to militancy or religious oppression. this is not the first or second time the Baroness has made fact-free comments. She is beginning to look and sound ridiculous and i must say David Cameron too for saying He actually agrees with her.
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gonro2
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04:28 AM on 02/15/2012
yep and I bet you preach "tolerance " also
04:05 PM on 02/14/2012
Religion is holding the human race back, this archiac form of control tool has no place in modern society. How can there be only one god when you worship about a thousand of them religious books that contradict each other all FAKE. Religion still is the biggest scam of all and until the human race starts to realise this it will only cause wars and hurt to many people.
06:37 PM on 02/14/2012
couldn't agree more
11:51 AM on 02/16/2012
I do agree as most religion has nothing to do with God in reality. That "Label" is used by humans for human ends, ie political control & power. Soviet Russia used Marx as their Label in just this way.
03:49 PM on 02/14/2012
It seems Militant Tendency has become Militant Secularity.
If God cannot act outside the laws She created then He is not God.
Equally if God can break His promise She is not God.
God, by definition, is beyond our understanding and reason.
08:42 PM on 02/14/2012
If this Hypothetical God Being is beyond our reason or understanding, why did She endow human beings with reason or understanding?
09:38 PM on 02/14/2012
GOOD ANSWER !!!!
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gonro2
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04:32 AM on 02/15/2012
It's called choice ---God cannot be glorified unless you choose to do so ---you are not forced to
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Nathan0316
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02:57 PM on 02/14/2012
No, no, no. Politics and Religion should be separate. There is nothing wrong with people being religious (provided it comes with an acceptance of the right of others to hold differing beliefs) but it should not be part of public life. If you have a question about potholes, government spending or where your local library is, you shouldn't have to provide religious bona-fides to get your answers. The same applies the other way around, you can't have people making Confession then worrying that their preacher will shop them to the Inland Revenue. To quote the West Wing, "If you have a question about religion, please, talk to your priest."

Or do we really want an American style Religious-Right to gain a stronghold here?
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Catriona
Wha daur meddle wi me?
03:29 PM on 02/14/2012
I strongly agree with you.
05:24 PM on 02/14/2012
Or do we really want the a Russian Secularist Left to gain a stronghold here
07:28 PM on 02/14/2012
BNP are you?
08:49 PM on 02/14/2012
What Russian Secularist Left? The post-communist Russian Federation seems as priest-ridden as the Tsarist Empire was.
02:35 PM on 02/14/2012
Religion and politics don't mix.
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gonro2
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04:34 AM on 02/15/2012
But they cannot be separated
11:44 AM on 02/16/2012
You got it - the paradox!!!