Pension Reforms: British Medical Association To Ballot Doctors On Industrial Action


First Posted: 25/02/2012 17:13 Updated: 26/02/2012 19:49   PA

More than 100,000 doctors are to be balloted on industrial action over pensions in a dramatic escalation of the bitter dispute over the government's controversial public sector reforms.

Leaders of the British Medical Association (BMA) today decided that doctors and medical students should vote on whether to take action - the first ballot if its kind since the 1970s.

However the BMA ruled out strikes in a move designed to limit the impact on patients across the country.

A BMA spokeswoman said no timetable has been set yet for when the ballot will take place and officials would be working on details in the coming days.

The decision follows overwhelming rejection by doctors and medical students of the "final" offer on pensions.

The BMA said the changes would see younger doctors paying more than £200,000 extra over their lifetime in pension contributions and work eight years longer, to 68.

Officials have urged the government to reopen talks with the health unions, but said neither the Treasury or the Health Department had signalled any change to their position.

Dr Hamish Meldrum, chairman of the BMA council, said: "Doctors are not asking for special treatment - quite the opposite. Just four years ago, NHS staff agreed to major reform of the NHS pension scheme to make it fair, affordable and sustainable. Now the Government wants to go back on that deal.

"The NHS pension scheme is in a strong financial position and the economic downturn does not affect that as staff have already accepted responsibility for covering any future cost increases."

The BMA accused the Government of failing to return to meaningful talks on NHS pensions despite urging ministers to resume negotiations.

Strike action was ruled out as part of a commitment to ensuring that whatever action is taken does not cause harm to patients, said the BMA.

Detailed plans will now be drawn up on the timing of the ballot and the nature of any industrial action that would take place in the event of a "yes" vote.

More than 80% of the 46,000 members who responded to a BMA survey in January said the Government's offer should be rejected, and nearly two thirds said they were willing to take industrial action to achieve a fairer deal.

Health Secretary Andrew Lansley told the BBC that he was disappointed with the decision, because in negotiations before Christmas heads of agreement had been reached with all the NHS trade unions except Unite.

"I felt we had secured for the NHS, and staff of the NHS, the sort of pension they could rely upon, and feel confident in, in the future."

He said the 2008 scheme had not been sustainable in the long term, and was not fair to taxpayers.

"All we are asking is that normal pension age in the NHS scheme for doctors should be in line with the state pension age," he said.

A consultant retiring at 68 under this scheme would be retiring with a pension of £68,000 a year. "I think that's a pension reflective of the value we attach to doctors, and I hope they will recognise that."

He dismissed a suggestion that the NHS was "in a mess".

"I don't accept that for a minute. The NHS is its staff and the services that are being provided, and the staff are doing a fantastic job.

"Waiting times are down, mixed sex accommodation is being cut by 95%, there's over 900,000 more people having access to NHS dentistry, hospital-acquired infections like MRSA and clostridium difficile are at record lows, and across the NHS money is being saved while delivering that fantastic performance. We've had efficiency savings of over seven billion already.

"It is in order to maintain that performance and deliver a better service in the future that we are intending through the reforms not only to empower patients with better information and choice, but to empower frontline staff, doctors and nurses themselves, with greater ability to deliver the services they want, to design the services they want, that are in the best interests of patients."

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More than 100,000 doctors are to be balloted on industrial action over pensions in a dramatic escalation of the bitter dispute over the government's controversial public sector reforms. Leaders of ...
More than 100,000 doctors are to be balloted on industrial action over pensions in a dramatic escalation of the bitter dispute over the government's controversial public sector reforms. Leaders of ...
More than 100,000 doctors are to be balloted on industrial action over pensions in a dramatic escalation of the bitter dispute over the government's controversial public sector reforms. Leaders of ...
More than 100,000 doctors are to be balloted on industrial action over pensions in a dramatic escalation of the bitter dispute over the government's controversial public sector reforms. Leaders of ...
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10:40 PM on 02/26/2012
Seems to be a lot of jealousy and resentment aimed at our doctors-how come none of it's directed at that bunch of greedy, bloodsucking multi-millionaires sat in the cabinet?
05:13 AM on 02/27/2012
The frontline always gets the flack first in any war,
in this case the doctors.
We are all aware of whose to blame here
without having to state it.
wes
01:59 PM on 02/26/2012
GPs are a waste of space just why they are on such huge money is beyond belief, the vast majority of them are so inept they can't spot any disease or disorder until it's progressed sufficiently far a 1st year student nurse could spot the problem. In days of old the state conrolled the Church, the NHS is merely the secular answer to a now largely defunct Church. People don't go to see the priest they go to see the GP, that's how GPs justify their existence but the sooner we get rid of them the better.
05:37 PM on 02/26/2012
Having been attending doctors, and hospitals for
two years now, every month at least, what i find
now is that the government is putting pressure
on the health authorities, they in turn are putting
pressure on the local health boards, this then
passed on too your doctors surgery.
Due to this the patients, are receiving
a poorer service.
I must admit in my area, the doctors ect
work very hard.
wes
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08:20 PM on 02/26/2012
In my experience, the main cause of problems with GPs is the practice nurses. They can turn heaven into hell
01:32 PM on 02/26/2012
Doctors are important to modern living in most countries they are not employed by the government but here they are civil servants and like any employee there are good and bad workers. These civil servants how ever have to be university educated along with other members of the publicly funded health service all of which forget that the service they operate in is not free. Even though the health service is free at the point of use it’s paid for by the public in advance of use, no doubt many have had the experience of medical treatment where they would have asked for their money back.
The salary differentials with in the professionals along with the work loads of others is unsustainable placing the burden on the tax payer not for just the inflated wage of a doctor but also the pension across the board. What makes it intolerable is that most of those being asked to find the money have little or no chance of even earning the national average salary never mind what a doctor is paid. Pension for most is a word of fantasy something only the very well paid can afford many have paid an un-proportional amount from their salary in return for less or nothing.
If the medical profession wish to strike it is their right but as they work under registration this would be most unwise of them any doctor striking should be struck off and charged with malpractice.
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11:54 AM on 02/26/2012
Welcome to the real world with the rest of us! We all have to work longer and pay more!

Whilst on subject of NHS am going through hell with elderly dying relative who's falling through the cracks of the shambolic care system, please sanity prevail where GP in control instead of too many cooks system we have now. She's scared and feels totally alone in this and much as we try can't seem to help her!!!!!! I hope it's better when it comes to my turn.
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01:20 PM on 02/26/2012
I doubt .youlle have much to look forward to...with that attitude..
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01:51 PM on 02/26/2012
True watching a frightened loved one dying isn't much fun!
01:22 PM on 02/26/2012
There’s profit in the private sector from the olds the local council just closed another home in favour of their money making friends, low paid staff badly trained working long shifts. Most not of this country so when the staff were laid off the private sector fell over themselves for the highly trained staff from the home and that staff cannot believe what the private sector get away with. From food to care profit is the driving force the lack of knowledge with in the management on all things and guild lines would close a council run home, the medical profession do little put still take the money.
11:27 AM on 02/26/2012
If doctors do not like the pension arrangements they should opt out and make their own provisions.
08:33 AM on 02/26/2012
UK doctors are paid more than most in Europe yet they are less accountable for their mistakes. They are simply pill pushers with very few of them actually bothering to do more than absolutely necessary to improve patient care. They aer paid enough. Let them go into the private sector if they moan but befoe they do they should have to do 10 years' NHS service to repay the true cost of their training. That or lose their licences.

Doc, you are paid circa £80K for a crap service so you will just have to trim back on your luxuires like the rest of us. That places you on the same footing as everyone else in the public sector.
09:00 AM on 02/26/2012
'Doc, you are paid circa £80K for a crap service'

I only wish they were paid that little
The average annual pay of a GP is circa £105K
The average annual pay of a hospital consultant with bonuses is circa £120K
01:35 AM on 02/26/2012
When you consider the corrupt Blair government handed GPs and hospital consultants a £40k a year pay rise at one fell swoop (in return for a massive reduction in their working hours) it hardly seems unreasonable to ask them to pay an extra £3k a year towards their gold-plated, gilt-edged, index-linked, final-salary public sector pensions does it?
10:10 PM on 02/25/2012
It isn't a strike we need it's a revolution. No matter which party holds the keys to No.10 they are all from the same ilk...Greedy, ignorant, self gratifying, corrupt thieves.
01:21 AM on 02/26/2012
Support £100,000 per annum pensions for doctors! I expect you will be marching to support them.
01:38 AM on 02/26/2012
not if he thinks they are 'Greedy, ignorant, self gratifying, corrupt thieves'
11:07 AM on 02/26/2012
My comment was perhaps posted out of context... my intention was to say that every profession within the NHS was being hamstrung, both by the NHS reforms and restructuring of pensions.
07:42 PM on 02/25/2012
I dont blame them! It takes a lot for Doctors to even contemplate striking. This disgustingly greedy government think it's OK to invalidate people's work contracts as well as ignore the advice of countless healthcare professionals regarding the NHS. If people want to get resentful they should target their anger at this appalling tory government-a bunch of multi-millionaires who want to steal the NHS from us, a national health service that has been built from the taxes WE have paid into over the years-only to hand it over to their mates in the private sector so that they can make a profit from it. I am not a public sector worker, I work in the private sector, earn just above the minimum wage and have no pension. I do know, however, where to apportion blame-at this unspeakable bunch of greedy, immoral individuals who are masquerading as a government. And I will NEVER be brainwashed into turning against my fellow workers! The way our firemen,doctors, nurses and other public sector workers are being demonised just so that the tories can justify cuts is unbelievable. Please people think for yourselves-no wonder the tories think they can fool us. I also think the media is shameful. If there are any REAL journalists out there-please, please start telling the truth. Surely some of you joined that profession to report facts-any of you brave enough to actually do that?
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12:00 PM on 02/26/2012
Just suck it up and get on with it Labour gave in to everything and NHS became the hell it is now. Lets hope it finally becomes the NHS again where you did actually get treatment and care you deserve.
01:36 PM on 02/26/2012
Everyone is greedy nowadays. What about the expenses scandal when Labour was in power? And if any of those groups you mention go on strike, you can bet it's all about money. It will not be about working conditions or the things unions were originally formed for, it will be about filthy luchre. We all have enough to eat (too much in some cases), we all have somewhere to live (unless we make ourselves deliberately homeless by drunkenness or drugs), we have free education and are looked after when we are ill for free, we have holidays and phones and television, but still, everybody wants more. There is inequality and there is unfairness, no one can deny that, but you can be sure if any of us won a few millions on the lottery, we would not be shouting about the inequality of wealth then. Human nature is human nature and the best we can do is get on with our lives. It takes too much precious energy to be continuously envious.
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05:44 PM on 02/25/2012
Greedy sods - the get paid too much as it is, especially scaremongering GPs!