Lord Oakeshott Versus Philip Davies On Lords Reform

Posted: 26/02/12 16:47 GMT  |  Updated: 26/02/12 16:48 GMT   PA

Lord Oakeshott Philip Davies
Tensions in the coalition came to the fore today as a Lib Dem peer warned the party might block boundary change proposals unless the Tories supported reform of the House of Lords.

Tensions in the coalition came to the fore today as a Lib Dem peer warned the party might block boundary change proposals unless the Tories supported reform of the House of Lords.

Lord Oakeshott's comments came as Conservative MP Philip Davies revealed he would vote against Lords reform.

The Lib Dem peer told BBC One's Sunday Politics chaired by Andrew Neil that he believed it was time to move to wholly or mainly an elected second chamber and the principle of hereditary peers was "undemocratic".

Davies maintained that the House of Lords "works", adding it was "amazing that the Lib Dems want to change a chamber that's actually largely proportionate".

The Tory MP sought to draw a contrast with the European Commission, which he said was "totally unelected and unaccountable" but backed by the Lib Dems.

Lord Oakeshott stressed the coalition agreement stated a committee would be established to bring forward proposals for a wholly or mainly elected second chamber on the basis of proportional representation.

He said: "And if you go back on the deal on that I can assure you, you won't find Lib Dems in parliament at all keen to vote for redistribution, you know. If you want a fight...."

Outlining his views on the House of Lords, the MP for Shipley said: "Why on earth we'd want to turn the House of Lords which has all that expertise and experience into a poor man's House of Commons is absolutely beyond me."

When Davies indicated he would vote against Lords reform, Lord Oakeshott replied: "Okay, well in that case you'll be fighting the next election on the old boundaries, Philip."

Asked by Neil if the Tories did not deliver on Lords reform, whether the Lib Dems would oppose the boundary changes, Lord Oakeshott said:

"I think we will not be wanting to put that through if they welch on the other half of the deal - no, a deal's a deal."

He added: "I think if Philip and his friends persist in these wrecking tactics and not sticking to the coalition agreement it's going to make it very difficult."

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Tensions in the coalition came to the fore today as a Lib Dem peer warned the party might block boundary change proposals unless the Tories supported reform of the House of Lords. Lord Oakeshott's ...
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12:08 AM on 02/29/2012
you cant have a common market ,no sorry european union,nosorry euro zone,no sorry united states of germany,with house of lords and monarchy,which they have stated in the past they want to get rid of
11:12 AM on 02/27/2012
Isn't having the leader of a minority party as deputy PM effectively undemocratic?
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
10:05 PM on 02/26/2012
The Lords should be reformed to remove arsonists, thieves and shysters from getting into power and from living off the taxpayer.
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08:03 PM on 02/26/2012
But who in the Libdumbs' are going to back Lord Oakshott..?..As apart from Tim Farron'...The others a just keeping quiet...A case of Don't rock the boat mate'..as we have another 3 years of this coalition'...By then Cloggy' would have beggared off' to the Lords'...and the others would be avoiding awkward questions from the electorate..On the subject of why they went so long backing up unpopular Tory policy for such a long time.Talk about opportunism ...or not'...But cynical me again eh?
09:37 PM on 02/26/2012
As a party the Lib Dems won't see the light of day for decades thanks to Clegg
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10:57 PM on 02/26/2012
Yeah' you would have thought these idiots'would be aware of these Tory-Snake oil merchants by now..?..They had a golden opportunity to prevent the worst excesses' of a majority Tory party'..Then let a fifth columnist type'such as Clegg' to undermine their agenda'..Whereby giving these Tory Rats' Carte blanche' to carry out Conservative right-wing dogma...Who are going to stop these idiots taking over the void in the shires now?..If the libdumbs' have any sense of honour left at all'?..They should block every piece of Tory legistlation from now on'...Then maybe we could at least moderate these idiotic policies...Maybe?....But somehow I doubt whether they've got the guts to do it?...Shame on them..
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01:36 AM on 02/29/2012
You bet'..They're bloody history' No doubt about it.
07:46 PM on 02/26/2012
There are over 1000 lords at the moment. How much money is this costing the British tax payer. We don,t need as much as that . All we need is about 150 and even that pushing it. This is just a waste of tax payers money. Its easy money for them though.
06:13 PM on 02/26/2012
Is it so hard for people to understand that 2 different parties have different opinions? What a shocker… not.
Richard Britton
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05:55 PM on 02/26/2012
time to call an election
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Can I be your friend...if they let me out...
05:36 PM on 02/26/2012
I would be content to get rid of all those Lords that have been to prison.
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mokgee
Sabu.Satsang, Samsara, Solitude...
05:15 PM on 02/26/2012
There is that good old political blackmail yet again..Is there any such thing as harmony in Wetminster, obviously not by these kind of standards, now there was a word, standards..Apparently there is no such thing and it shows.......