Police Pensions 'Unaffordable For Taxpayers' Claims Policy Exchange Report

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First Posted: 29/02/2012 05:45 Updated: 29/02/2012 05:51   PA

Police pensions are becoming "unaffordable for taxpayers" with contributions doubling to almost £2bn, a report claims.

Taxpayers are picking up about 80% of rising costs, with police retirement plans in desperate need of reform, a thinktank said.

Total costs now stand at £2.5 billion a year, the equivalent to £1 in every £7 of total police expenditure, the Policy Exchange said.

Taxpayer contributions more than doubled from £951 million in 1995-96 to £1.9 billion in recent years while police officer contributions fell from 31% to 23%, the report said.

The report recommends a move away from a final salary to a career-average scheme and a raising of the standard retirement age to 60.

Edward Boyd, author of the report, said: "Police officers' pensions have become increasingly unaffordable for taxpayers.

"A growing pensioner population, primarily down to increased life expectancy coupled with only minimal changes in the retirement age, has increased costs substantially over the last decade.

"The more we have to pay for pensions, the less police forces have available to spend on hiring officers to fight crime.

"We desperately need a new police pension scheme fit for the modern world. Without reducing costs, police officer pensions will become unaffordable for taxpayers and for officers themselves."

In 1995/96, pensions cost less than £1 billion. By 2009/10, the bill had risen to almost £2.5 billion, the report said.

Rising life expectancy was singled out as a significant reason for spiralling costs.

The data claims two police authorities are supporting the costs of more retired police officers than active and deferred members combined.

In 2009/10, each household in England and Wales was paying £612 a year on policing. Of this, £83 - or £1 in every £7 - was spent on police officer pensions, up from £52 per household a year in 2001/02.

The report says police pensions are the most generous as a proportion of their pay compared to other public sector workers, excluding the judiciary.

Police officers have already been told they will have to pay an average of an extra £1,000 a year into their pension under government plans.

More senior officers, such as mid-range superintendents, face an increase of £2,800 a year while new constables face paying £349 more as annual police pension contributions rise between 1.5% and 4%, depending on rank.

Home Secretary Theresa May said last year there needs to be a "fairer balance between what employees pay and what other taxpayers contribute towards a public service pension".

Anger has been building in frontline policing since former rail regulator Tom Winsor said the most wide-ranging analysis of forces' pay in 30 years showed more than £1 billion of savings should be made.

Prime Minister David Cameron has said there is a need for major change regardless of economic challenges.

But a report by Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) found crime rates could jump as one in 10 police officers is axed under Government spending cuts.

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Gottlieb
hated by left since 1973 and right since 1982
02:12 AM on 03/04/2012
Unfunded public police pensions from what I just read here is nothing compared to the US especially California.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-02/if-stockton-is-broke-then-why-isn-t-san-diego-steven-greenhut.html

Let us put the blame squarely with gutless politicians who support their campaign paymasters whether they pander to unions or corporations and the wealthy.
01:37 PM on 03/01/2012
Dear HP Why do you prevent the truth re Hitler being a Socialist from being posted??? Its all in Back and White for us all to see on the Internet.
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Reality always bites
Sometimes just a bit peckish
07:50 PM on 02/29/2012
60 year old policemen / women on the streets. It's a young person's job.
All these 'policy makers' seem to forget the unemployment figures so conveniently when they are looking to save a few quid!
Contracts signed, years worked towards final salary. The contributions should have been saved and building a pot of funds sufficient to meet the committment.
You can't change the rules just because some idiots have spent the money!
12:02 AM on 03/01/2012
They should cue off of the technique used by the firefighters in Belgium on February 10, 2012 who were protesting a plan to raise their retirement age to 67.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/10/hose-belgian-firefighters-soak-police

See how long the bean-counters insist on these reforms then.
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Reality always bites
Sometimes just a bit peckish
06:01 PM on 03/01/2012
Unfortunately they will probably achieve nothing by this action except publicity.
Bean counters can be vindictive and will propose something worse next time.
Who would want a 67 year old firefighter or worse still a whole crew of them?
03:30 PM on 02/29/2012
One question how much does the policy change committee authors of this report get paid by the tax payer and do they get a pension?
Oh yes that doesn't count because they are part of the government
02:49 PM on 02/29/2012
Last week, as a Police officer I worked over 70 hours and during these 7 days at work I had one meal break for around 25 minutes with the rest of the time eating "en route" to yet another call to help the public. During my 7 shifts I arrested 5 people on different days for burglary, I got cans of lager thrown at me through a window of a house party, I had to talk a male self harmer into putting down the steak knife he was holding, check the body of an elderly lady whilst dealing with her grieving family and all this on top of the run of the mill jobs attended such as domestics, car thefts, drunken town centre revellers and many other things. Over the course of these shifts I saw my 7 month old son and wife for around 2 hours a day if that. I know that I chose to undertake a role with the above as "conditions" of being an officer. Yes, what we deal with is not nice and is at times disturbing, frightening and depressing. But I chose to do this job, I wanted to help people and help the public but I also joined with certain benefits to sacrificing so much. This includes a good and fair pension. If you feel that this isn't justified then there really is something wrong with society.
02:38 PM on 02/29/2012
Start cutting your own pensions first
01:35 PM on 02/29/2012
Tsk, Tsk, reducing Police pension contibutions? Next thing you know they will want to tax the 'bungs' that the Met were (alledgedly) being thrown by News of the World Journalists!
Stop funding ALL Public Sector pensions from the taxpayers, simple.
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janno000
06:16 PM on 02/29/2012
but private sector pensions are subsidised by the taxpayer, and this costs more than public sector pensions per annum, so that should stop too.
01:09 PM on 02/29/2012
There is a reason why the police pension scheme has or is become(ing) unaffordable. Government action, and I dont simply mean this governments actions. All governments, but in particular the actions taken by New Labour at the start of their reign have contributed significantly to the demise not just of the police pensions but everybody elses as well. That is unless you are an MP, senior business figure or in a protected job that suits the politicians as it frames part of their support group.

Given the nature of a policemans job the ability to retire earlier than some others was based on practical common sense.

The media and a variety of propoganda programmes are utilised by politicians to win people over to their argument while happily clouding or avoiding that they themselves destroyed the financial viability of pension schemes in the first place. As usual through their own greed!
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12:35 PM on 02/29/2012
MPs should face "exactly the same changes" to their pensions as those imposed on public sector workers, David Cameron said in June 2011
MPs have a funded final salary scheme, they pay a fixed contribution and the Exchequer is liable for the balance.
Commons Leader Sir George Young made a statement about MPs' pensions before the 2011 summer recess.
The government's motion stated that pensions should be "determined independently by Ipsa" and urged Ipsa to introduce a new pension scheme by 2015.
Urged? And not exactly in a rush to make the changes!
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Norman Mitchison
12:24 PM on 02/29/2012
Unfair to blame this Government when the last one feathered its own nest and left us bankrupt almost. In a nutshell they are all the same especially when llumvered with Libdems.
12:37 PM on 02/29/2012
What a joke , did you get this from the Sun ?
Give Dave another 6 months and you will not be able to find a tory supporter
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Norman Mitchison
12:52 PM on 02/29/2012
Dont you mean Cleggie and the Libdems? All p**s in the same pot. and whats the Sun?
03:56 PM on 02/29/2012
As if the last gov was responsible for the collapse of Lehman Bros and other banks globally or for daring to pay too many nurses a decent salary, another one falling for the illusion that this whole mess is the result of the last gov and nothing to do with greedy and incompetent bankers.
11:48 AM on 02/29/2012
Where is all the tax payers money going ??? all of a sudden we have no money, but our soldiers are not brought home, we gve away millions to countries that has nothing to do with us, big bankers, council and goverment give them selves all the perks and to hell with the workers that pay THEM, Where do they think their wages come from.. we need the police they need their pension they work hard for it..All you slver spoon sods that dont know what a days works is, have never had to do without , think you can run a country ?? Its about time this goverment found out what it s like .. get them out...
11:30 AM on 02/29/2012
What people tend to forget when talking about pensions for police, fire fighters and ambulance staff is that during the course of their duties, while the majority of people are tucked up in their beds, they are out on the streets in the community dealing with violence and death. This often means dealing with drunks and generally nasty people.

The police and ambulance staff get spat on, vomited on and have to deal with things that ordinary people never meet in their lifetimes. Fire fighters also are subjected to dangerous substances and dangerous circumstances when dealing with fires, even though they wear protective clothing their health is affected by the conditions that they work under.

Working shifts messes up home life and the natural body cycle. Many police relationships end in divorce.

Looking forward to the pension keeps many of these people in the job, thus saving money having to train new staff

A decent pension is part of the deal and if anyone is jealous of such a pension they should have joined.

Finally, I do not know of anybody in the police, fire or ambulance services who is a millionaire as the result of the salary they were paid.
11:46 AM on 02/29/2012
I wholeheartedly agree with you.

I personally couldn't do a police officers job the violence and abuse they suffer is far too much for me, any many other people if they were honest.
I couldn't do a fire fighters job, without extensive training, but what about when things go wrong, bringing child out of burnt buildings, could many people live with that thought in their mind day in day out.
Nursing well this I can do and did for a few years in the RAF, but today the abuse they suffer trying to help people is absolutely appalling, no thank you.
We should with open arms support these people as most do not work in nice safe office or building environments, nor do they work regular sociable hours.
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Valksy
civis mundi sum
11:29 AM on 02/29/2012
Whenever a "think tank" like the Policy Exchange publishes these kinds of reports, the proper step for rational journalism is to explore who the think tank is, and try to deduce what, if any, agenda they may serve. Who are the trustees, who are the donors (if any) and who is on the pay roll (if any). This should be done rather than accepting their statement as an absolute truism.

Ten seconds on wikipedia would do for a start (not always a great source in and of itself, but useful as a springboard and a collation of citations).
11:33 AM on 02/29/2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Exchange a Conservative (Tory) stink tank

Says it all really
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Valksy
civis mundi sum
11:38 AM on 02/29/2012
Absolutely. And HuffPo should be more rigorous in their reporting by making such facts clear. At first glance, or on a cursory read, the statement appears far more official than it actually is.
11:12 AM on 02/29/2012
I have often read with interest these stories and comments, it would be nice that some facts are presented. Yes the police pension is good, but pension contributions are going up to 13-15%, the average salary calculation is a dead cert, extending the retirement age however is unacceptible - for the majoriy of police officers dealing with a high degree of confrontation and shifts till they are 60 too much and will affect policing services. Additionally the two thirds scheme that is quoted is already closed, it was closed about 8 years ago, its was replaced by a half pension scheme accruing one 70th for 35 years (not one 60th over 30 years), so if the old scheme is closed it is being incrementally relaced with the cheaper one as new people are recruited. Add into this whole debate that the police cannot excercise their rights as an employee and remove their labour, there has to be some compensation.