Police Shooting In Culcheth, Cheshire, Came After 'Planned Operation'

Man Shot Police Cheshire

First Posted: 4/03/2012 11:41 Updated: 4/03/2012 11:53   PA

Armed officers who shot a man dead in a countryside village last night were on a "pre-planned operation", police said today.

Residents in the village of Culcheth, Cheshire, were left terrified when officers shot the man after the car he was in was stopped at around 7.20pm last night.

It remains unclear what prompted the incident, which is now under investigation by the police watchdog, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

But Greater Manchester Police today said: "Greater Manchester Police can confirm that its officers were deployed on a pre-planned operation in Cheshire on 3 March 2012.

"As a result, one man was shot and suffered fatal injuries. This matter has been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission who will be carrying out an independent investigation and Greater Manchester Police is unable to comment further at this stage."

Residents spoke of the terror as they heard the shot fired during the incident, near Jackson Avenue, Culcheth, at around 7.20pm last night.

Speaking alongside her father, Jessica Brown, 15, said she was with friends in the Village Pizza takeaway in Common Lane when a couple came in and told them to "stand back against the wall".

"I didn't know them but they said to us to stand away so we were not hurt or seen by anyone," she said.

"I later looked out of the window and saw three people in black clothing with gas masks on and saw other people chasing them."

She said a large number of her friends were also congregated in a playground in Common Lane and many ran for cover towards the shopping precinct as the scene unfolded.

One of her friend's parents dashed to the takeaway to collect them, she said.

"When we came outside there was gas in the air, you could smell it.

"I then saw a black van with three or four people inside drive towards the car park. One of them was leaning outside the window and I later heard shots.

"It all looked like something off a film. It did not feel real at all. It was horrible."

Her father Anthony Brown told Sky News she arrived home "hysterical", adding: "She was crying her eyes out, barging through the door."

He said his first thought was to get children inside and added: "You don't want the kids outside when there's mad men running round with guns shooting."

A spokeswoman for Cheshire Constabulary said it was an "isolated" incident,

"At around 7.20pm on Saturday an incident took place near Jackson Avenue in Culcheth, Cheshire, whereby a car was stopped by armed officers from Greater Manchester Police,"

"During the contact, a male occupant of the car was shot and sustained fatal injuries.

"Two men were arrested at the scene and remain in custody. The deceased's next of kin have been informed.

"The Independent Police Complaints Commission has been informed and will independently investigate the incident with the assistance of Cheshire Constabulary and Greater Manchester Police.

"Cheshire police patrols have been increased in the area, and the community of Culcheth should be reassured that this is an isolated incident and there is no risk to the community as a whole."

An IPCC spokeswoman said: "The IPCC has been informed by Cheshire Constabulary of an incident near Jackson Avenue, Culcheth, Cheshire at approximately 7.20pm on Saturday, March 3 where a man was fatally shot by armed officers from Greater Manchester Police.

"The incident has been referred to the IPCC who will independently investigate. IPCC investigators are at the scene and working with officers from both Greater Manchester Police and Cheshire Constabulary."

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09:32 PM on 03/05/2012
welcome to 21st century policing in the uk. this was nothing more than a cynical calculated execution, of a guy who walked away from a multi million pound police corruption trail. unlike the people behind the comments on here i have looked down the barrel of a police heckler and koch, i have been tie wrapped and kicked and punched before being thrown into the wagon. i have seen how filth with the fingers on the triggers were acting. half of them were hyped and out of control and i really thought i was gonna get blown away. by the way i have never carried a gun or been involved in gun crime or been violent on the many occasions that i was arrested. also the IPCC are a joke and you may as well get Greater Manchester Police Chief constable to investigate. as for the filth always giving two warnings.. Don't make me laugh
03:28 PM on 03/05/2012
The Independent Police Complaints Commission(IPCC) will give their judgement in due course.Reading some of the comments it is clear that until this is published we really do not know exactly what happened, so please stop being judge,jury and hangman..We are a democracy after all.....
02:12 PM on 03/05/2012
These people have got what they deserve,who knows what could have happened if they had pulled of a robbery and been challenged.
10:10 AM on 03/05/2012
I doubt very much if we are talking car theft here.The Old Bill don't set up an armed operation to get a bloke for nicking a motor.
10:06 AM on 03/05/2012
There are no victims here, the police stopped a criminal from doing what most of us would hate to happen to us . Well done I say
08:30 AM on 03/05/2012
He will have been warned!!!!!!!!!
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Raymond Soltysek
10:23 AM on 03/05/2012
Not necessarily - as other posters have taken pains to point out, the police are not legally obliged to issue a warning before they shoot you.
02:35 PM on 03/05/2012
I can assure the public 100% that this individual will have been warned at LEAST TWICE before the Police marksman fired.
In this country of ours the Police do not shot 'just for fun ',we are a democracy after all......
07:20 AM on 03/05/2012
If the man was a threat to the public, the police or potentially himself, then something had to be done. Like many other comments on here, if you want to play with fire, then you should prepare to be burnt.
My thoughts are with the copper who pulled the trigger, and his/her family.
The victims family, who you assume would've known that their son/brother etc was a gang member, have probably been waiting for this day - all be it they didn't want it to happen.
Let this be a lesson to any other gang members/leaders out there, who think they're bigger than the law
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Raymond Soltysek
10:25 AM on 03/05/2012
Jean Charles de Menezes was a threat to the public because he vaguely resembled a terrorist...
10:50 AM on 03/05/2012
I for one am fed up of this , if Jean Charles de Menezes had stuck to the rules re. his visa he wouldnt have been in the country to be shot at, same applies to him trying to do a runner. Why blame the police for an illegal immigrant running away who ends up dead. IF HE HAD FOLLOWED THE RULES HE WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY............... CAPICHE
10:59 AM on 03/05/2012
and if he had been that terrorist, and had set off a bomb. its a shame he died but at the end of the day he was an illegal immigrant who should not have been here.
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Barbara Longstaff
11:49 AM on 03/05/2012
Maybe if a few more were shot they would think twice before burlary - kniving and other attacks. There is no other deterrent - you are not even hanged these days for killing someone and 9 out of 10 times it is classed as manslaughter. I say well done Manchester Police.
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Raymond Soltysek
12:22 PM on 03/05/2012
"9 out of 10 times it is classed as manslaughter. " - so for every 1 murder trial there are 9 manslaughter trials... your evidence for this statistic?

And being shot before trial is an appropriate punishment for "burlary"?
10:48 PM on 03/04/2012
a bloody good show by the Police and about time....I friggin detest the namby pamby brigade.....if you want to play big games then beware of the consequences.....rock & roll (as any of you mercenaries out there will know what i'm on about)..!
08:26 AM on 03/05/2012
So you think its good for a copper to execute a car thief in cold blood in front of 20 or 30 young children playing in a park opposite? You think execution is the fitting crime for a car thief? I pity you and other sickos like you that thinks police murdering criminals without a judge and jury is the epitomy of civilisation in the UK today. I lived in that regime in SA and i thought that filthy society had been eradicated in Britain, clearly people as sick as you still exist. Anthony Grainger was stealing a car, that is not and has never been a crime worth being executed for, its just a lump of metal and plastic.
09:33 AM on 03/05/2012
And I pity society if people like you ever get the say. The police are right to dispose of rubbish however they see fit
09:34 AM on 03/05/2012
South Africa you say ???? Feel free , the airports over there ---------->
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09:30 PM on 03/04/2012
Not someone else shot dead by the police !
11:26 PM on 03/04/2012
Yep! Shouldn't play with fire if you don't wanna get burned.
About time we armed all police and gave them the all clear to shoot anyone who is a threat.
09:20 PM on 03/05/2012
Judging by the track record of the Police so far

I don’t reckon much of anyone’s chances God forbid that should ever happen !
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panama digby
09:20 PM on 03/04/2012
Why always shoot to kill?? No trial, no jury, no other side to this story
Only the police version will be published
12:41 AM on 03/05/2012
A full and searching inquiry will be held and if the officers acted outwith the Law they will be dealt with under that Law. In an incident such as this there is no place for any maverick officer to hide, and rightly so. The officers involved would have to make decisions in fractions of a second, knowing full well that if they acted illegally they would be subjected to the full force of the Law!
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panama digby
07:41 AM on 03/05/2012
Oh rubbish! the police investigate themselves and mostly find themselves not guilty!!
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08:21 PM on 03/04/2012
Was the pre-plan operation to shoot and kill the guy? No mention of the guy having a Gun or why the police had a pre-planned operation against him. Remember the shooting that started the riots last year he was shot in the car as well. Is this the Police Modus Operandi shoot and kill. Similar to the Troubles in Northern Ireland. All it needs is for one of these operations to turn into a bloodbath and the Police will be screaming all to be armed.
12:30 AM on 03/05/2012
The last thing that the officer on the beat wants is to be armed. If you are armed, then you have to be prepared to use your firearm first and use it effectively - once the lead starts flying you do not get a second chance.
08:31 AM on 03/05/2012
I know of a few that would welcome carrying arms on the beat!
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Raymond Soltysek
07:56 PM on 03/04/2012
Thank you, mods. I feel strongly about that one...
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