Government Defeated In Lords Again On Legal Aid

Lords Defeat Legal Aid

The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 7/03/2012 17:37 Updated: 7/03/2012 18:36

The House of Lords has inflicted a further two defeats on Ken Clarke's legal aid reforms, with peers approving amendments which would ease restrictions on those appealing welfare decisions.

The amendments overturn Ken Clarke's plan to stop those who lose their benefits being able to claim legal aid when appealing, a move which had support from all sides of the Lords, including some Conservative peers.

It means there have now been five defeats for the government over its legal aid reforms, which Ken Clarke says are designed to curb a "compensation culture" in England and Wales.

The Justice Secretary believes that the legal aid bill has grown too large, as the Ministry of Justice grapples with a budget cut of more than 20% over the lifetime of this Parliament.

In increasingly terse exchanges in the Lords, Lib Dem peers including the former children's' TV presenter Floella Benjamin spoke out against the reforms, claiming they would make it more difficult for families to ensure they were getting the benefits properly due to them.

The defeats come after earlier votes on Monday, when peers blocked attempts to restrict legal aid for victims of domestic violence. The government had wanted to impose a 12-month time limit for victims - mostly women - to claim.

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07:09 AM on 03/08/2012
Forget it Ken, most " lords " are lawyers or have something to do with law firms and aint going to kill the golden goose.
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Thomas VonBerge
Minnesotan before American.
02:32 AM on 03/08/2012
They still wearin those goofy wigs?
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Spanky McFarlane
ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM.
05:17 AM on 03/08/2012
LOFL!
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12:18 AM on 03/08/2012
Look'..A git in a wig...lol
10:33 PM on 03/07/2012
Legal Aid should be subjected to means testing. Its appalling how millionaires are able to obtain Legal Aid and K.Clark wanting to take it away from those who really need it. Yes, the compensation culture needs to be overhalled as its gone crazy over past years, high profile liable cases being some of the highest payouts making the rich even richer.
12:34 AM on 03/08/2012
What on earth makes you think that legal aid isn't subject to means testing? With the exception of representation at the police station (means testing here would be completely impractical), all areas of Legal Aid are subject to means testing. With the limits set pretty low. http://www.legalservices.gov.uk/public/can_i_get_legal_aid.asp#testing

p.s. Libel is not covered by legal aid
p.p.s. Personal injury is only covered by legal aid in very limited circumstances (i.e. not bog standard clinical negligence cases)
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Carl Baron
06:51 PM on 03/07/2012
It’s High time this Old Tory Buffoon went into retirement. Unfortunately he hasn’t the courage to curb serious crimes by re-introducing the much needed Capital Punishment . He has made our justice System unfit for the purpose intended by dragging his heels on the subject yet doesn’t hesitate to HIT the less fortunate in our society, so very, very Tory is that.
08:25 PM on 03/07/2012
if you look at the damage done to our justice system by blair& straw then you would not be making comments like the above .
clark is positively golden by comparison .
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Carl Baron
08:43 PM on 03/07/2012
Yes indeed I am very aware Ken can have his moments so to speak, as can we all. For at times he speaks with excellence and other times he leaves himself open to ridicule. As to Blair & Straw, yes the damage they have done one must ask oneself was it indeed deliberate for their acts together with Browns are highly questionable indeed, are they not?
10:51 PM on 03/07/2012
Hmm, Capital Punishment - lets think about that for a second. Remind me how you put things right if there has been a miscarriage of justice?

What's that? You can't resurrect a dead person?

Hmm, bit of a flaw in your plan then, don't you think?

And don't kid yourself that every conviction in murder cases is safe, even in these marvellously technological days!
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Carl Baron
05:58 PM on 03/08/2012
So that old cliché a possible Miscarriage of justices is the best you can come up with is it indiasign as regards to disproving of Capital Punishment?

When there is no possible doubt as to who did kill, then there is no possible excuse not to reinstate ‘Capital Punishment’ is there? That old cliché has long lost its merits.