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Ministers And Labour Accused Of Attempting 'Devious' Stitch-Up To Silence Rebellious MPs

Posted: 12/03/2012 18:07 Updated: 12/03/2012 19:03

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Ministers and the Labour leadership have been accused of attempting a "devious" stitch-up designed to silence rebellious MPs by subtly changing the way topics debated in parliament are chosen.

Some of the most headline-grabbing Commons debates since the election have been picked by the backbench business committee.

These have included whether prisoners should be allowed to vote, whether circuses should be banned from using wild animals and whether there should be a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU - topics both the Labour and coalition front benches would rather not have had in the news.

The current members of the committee, picked from all three main parties and chaired by Labour MP Natascha Engel, are notoriously independent minded and were chosen by a vote of the whole House.

However in future, the Labour members will be chosen by a vote of just Labour MPs, the Conservative members will be chosen by a vote of just Tory MPs and the Lib Dem member will be picked by a vote of just Lib Dems.

This has raised fears that the party leaderships' will be able to force their MPs to vote for members they think are less likely to pick debates they would rather not have to deal with.

David Heath, the Lib Dem deputy leader of the House of Commons, said the change would actually ensure coalition MPs could not gang up together and vote Labour MPs onto the committee that the Labour backbenchers did not actually want.

"It is wrong that the choice of opposition MPs on a committee could be decided by votes of those on the government benches," he said.

"The motion before us does not in any way affect the committee's power or its role."

And Heath said he had "absolute confidence" that the people elected by party groups would be "every bit independent" as those currently in place.

But Tory MP Peter Bone said the move was one of the coalition's "clearest and most obvious breaches of its claim to put parliament first" and was an attempt to replace the current members, including himself, with "more pliable" MPs.

He condemned the rule change as "devious, undemocratic and a disgrace to this government".

"It's absolutely outrageous, it is an attempt by the executive to ignore parliament and to impose its will on the House."

Engel dismissed the suggestion that the rules of election needed to be changed to ensure the committee was not overly partisan. "This is something that isn't broken, I don't understand why the government is tryinG to fix it," she said.

"We are not voting on party lines on the committee. People are very independent minded. This is about how we best represent backbenchers as a whole," she said.

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mokgee
Sabu.Satsang, Samsara, Solitude...
03:01 PM on 03/16/2012
Should the deadly serious rebellious MPs, mean business, then nobody would stitch them up, not unless the bribe was too big to reject, then that would do the trick. It seems that, this is the current method in Wetminster, because to date, there has been no rebellion...Strange that don't you think....
Richard Britton
British Socialist Global Realist
12:12 AM on 03/14/2012
we are serfs and as soon as we seem to get the slightest lever to exert the tiniest of forces on the established order that mechanism is crushed without anyone having the ability to challenge

we are now entirely powerless to change what happens to us in our country

this is slavery in the UK in the 21st century
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casual agent
Advocate for social justice
03:10 AM on 03/14/2012
Maybe'....But I'm not backing down without a fight'..Anyone?
05:09 PM on 03/13/2012
Just like the EU referendum that never was! The idea to 'allow' 100,000-vote topics to be presented to this Committee for recommendation to the House, seemed so democratic, so voter-friendly, and would allow the myth that MPs (and the PM) were listening to the people, and be presented as an underpinning democracy. That was before realisation dawned that enough people would be exercised sufficientlyto request several votes on wide-ranging topics, often to the disquiet and embarrassment of the Government and/or other parties. So, just like the easy-to-promise, easy-to-withdraw referenda on thhe EU, the 'rules' or 'question' (in the case of the EU) are manipulated to prevent awkward or damning debates - which the people have requested!
Oh, for some good old-fashioned principles and values of honesty, openness, transparency, and integrity.
02:33 PM on 03/13/2012
British political system is so much more fun than ours.
11:45 AM on 03/13/2012
This is not Labour! It's the Hanoverian and his PR machine held together by cleggy and his pack of dogs.
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casual agent
Advocate for social justice
03:15 AM on 03/14/2012
I can't think of anything befitting these Tory/Lib Scum'..Even Dogs are loyal'...These According to the Great man himself (Nye Bevan) are lower than vermin...Somehow I think he hit the nail right on the head eh?
northern git
fed up with all the political crap in life
08:42 AM on 03/13/2012
if you don't like the answers fix the question
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mokgee
Sabu.Satsang, Samsara, Solitude...
07:39 AM on 03/13/2012
Not only can we smell the rot, we can visibly see what is causing it right in front of our eyes.....
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casual agent
Advocate for social justice
03:17 AM on 03/14/2012
...What do expect when these Condems'' have emerged from the sewer..?
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08:13 PM on 03/12/2012
Regardless which topics are up for debate they soon get slid under the carpet by "our" executive members, its obvious why the EU debate went absolutely nowhere even though the people of this country petitioned for it, in fact anything the people would like to see happen through fair and just government, or democracy, as they like to call it, gets nowhere. Its time the system changed, every member of that house should vote on issues independently of their party line on the matter, we might then see the NHS saved from the greedy clutches of our top Tory's chums, we might then see a referendum put to the people on our EU involvement and many other issues our spineless politicians wont defy the whips on, its a disgrace they even call this a democracy, its a sham, like the USA/China/Russia and all the rest, we suffer to live in a dictatorship with puppets for MP's.
05:20 PM on 03/13/2012
A bit harsh, perhaps, but I understand the underlying cause of your view. It is comments like yours that emphasise what a danger to democracy is the present governance arrangement. We have a strong-armed bullying technique applied to any who dissent from a line, we have incompetence from Government deparments smacking us in the face almost daily, with sums of money involved that, if corrected, would halve the budget deficit, and a governance procedure and process that employs hundreds of thousands to administer, again which if changed would avoid us being in deficit at all. We could then consider investing in what the British people really want their money spent on, and it most certainly is not this culture and form of governance.
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
07:44 PM on 03/12/2012
"Ministers and the Labour leadership have been accused of attempting a "devious" stitch-up designed to silence rebellious MPs by subtly changing the way topics debated in parliament are chosen."

They may have got this tactic from the Huff Post!
11:40 PM on 03/12/2012
Totally agree with you there Mickey.
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casual agent
Advocate for social justice
07:04 PM on 03/12/2012
Another non-news item methinks?...Mind you'..I'm not surprised that Mr Bone is havin' a whinge anyway....Or is it because Mrs Bone is not happy with it?...Or is it the Tory-Right whingers' sounding off again?lol