Tycoon Tax 'Unworkable' Says Tory Deputy Chairman Michael Fallon

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PA/The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 12/03/2012 14:00 Updated: 12/03/2012 14:15

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg's plans for a "tycoon tax" on the super-wealthy are likely to be unworkable, according to a senior Tory.

Mr Clegg's proposal for a minimum floor on the percentage of overall income paid by the wealthiest was challenged by some Liberal Democrats over the weekend, with former Treasury spokesman Lord Oakeshott - a close ally of Business Secretary Vince Cable - describing it as a "superficially attractive measure that falls apart under scrutiny".

On Monday lunchtime Conservative deputy chairman Michael Fallon said he did not believe that either the tycoon tax or the mansion tax on properties worth more than £2 million favoured by Mr Cable would work.

Mr Fallon told BBC Radio 4's The World At One: "There is no point people coming forward with tycoon taxes or mansion taxes or anything else unless they actually do the work and show that these taxes would be practical - that they would yield the money in practice and that they would not be easily evadable."

Asked if he thought Mr Clegg's proposal would be "workable", Mr Fallon replied: "I would be very surprised. Very few other countries have what is called a tycoon tax."

Citing the study being carried out by HM Revenue and Customs, and due to be published next week, on how much money is raised by the 50p top rate of income tax, Mr Fallon said: "I think the best way to look at this is to look at the individual rates and see what they actually bring in."

However it seems unlikely that George Osborne will want to cut the 50p rate of tax for the highest earners without providing the Lib Dems with some form of revenue on the wealthy in return.

There were reports in the Sunday papers that Vince Cable and Nick Clegg were divided over a new tax for the rich - with Cable favouring a "mansion tax" on big properties, while Clegg has been touting his new tycoon tax idea over the weekend. Many conservatives also feel the mansion tax is unworkable.

Speaking to the Daily Telegraph at the weekend, Mr Clegg explained the thinking behind the tycoon tax proposal.

"There are hundreds of people earning millions per year who are barely paying 20% tax," said the Deputy Prime Minister.

"Forget 40%, forget 50%, forget 30%. They are not even paying 20%. Therefore, I think it's time that we look at what I call a tycoon tax.

"If you're earning millions per year, if you're able to pay an army of lawyers and accountants to basically pick and choose what tax you are paying, if you are paying as low as 25%, 20% or even less in tax, there should be a minimum fair share that you should pay to society.

"It makes people so incredibly angry when you are getting up early in the morning, working really hard to try and do the right thing for your family and for your community, you are paying your taxes and then you see people literally in a different galaxy who are paying extraordinarily low rates of tax."

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03:52 AM on 03/18/2012
they are bound to say that!!! it would mean they actually had to pay "THEIR" portion of the tax bill & that would NEVER do,
11:03 AM on 03/13/2012
surprise surprise......
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01:07 AM on 03/13/2012
Well it's a no brainer'...Why would you expect a Tory to agree with a tax on the rich?
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Blockem1
When will our politicians start putting policies
11:34 PM on 03/12/2012
Clegg and Cable ..your having a laugh , as if they would be able to deliver any changes to the current tax system ! I would imagine the Tories are laughing all the way to their offshore bank accounts !
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01:09 AM on 03/13/2012
...Yeah'...and these are supposed to be educated people'...So much for privlaged education...lol
03:55 AM on 03/18/2012
well they are educated !! especialy in the art of wriggling out of paying for anything that they may be able to get the public to fund,
10:46 PM on 03/12/2012
"Only the little people pay taxes".
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vividrick
I came, I saw...I had a cup of tea!
10:26 PM on 03/12/2012
It don't matter what Clegg or Cable implement in terms of taxing the super-rich, most of them are friends of the Tories & likely to be living in Tory strong-holds, they wanna look after their own primarily.
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01:13 AM on 03/13/2012
Tories and Libdems'..One and the same eh?
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meddleman
06:25 PM on 03/12/2012
First get a Libdem to suggest some way of making the rich contribute to 'austerity'. This will make the populace think that it is not just middle and low income earners who are paying the price. Next, get a senior Tory to rubbish the idea, then quietly shelve it. Meanwhile, act quickly on measures to reduce the income of the rest while the rich escape scot-free. Your friends and relatives will be very grateful. Perfect!
06:14 PM on 03/12/2012
Just make sure the wealthy pay the correct ammount of tax
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07:17 PM on 03/12/2012
...er...Fat - Cat Chance'...Osborne' is growing ever longer nails to scratch his Banker-Mates Backs..They're all in it together''..Nothings changed'..nothing ever will'..Take a look at what the Heads of those Bailed out Bankers are awarding themselves...For Complete Failure..
northern git
fed up with all the political crap in life
05:21 PM on 03/12/2012
it won't work bcause they don't want it to work

up to their eyes in vested interests
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07:18 PM on 03/12/2012
Spot on'...No Change'..Business as usual...
01:09 AM on 03/13/2012
Ye, since the Middle Ages, an t'will ever be so.....
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02:38 PM on 03/12/2012
If the 50p tax doesn't bring in enough money, why don't they just increase it? (Having heard Margaret Thatcher talk of the 'trickle down effect' of allowing inordinately wealthy people have even more money and seeing it turn into the artesian well effect of making the people at the very bottom of the heap much, much worse off there has to be a better solution.) AND if they bleat about leaving the country, let's wait and see if they go!
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03:11 PM on 03/12/2012
That idiot Michael Fallon' would say that it was un-workable anyway'..For different reasons stated by Lord Oakeshott...The former reason'..Because Fallon' don't want to upset Tory doners'...and the Latter'..Because maybe it doesn't go far enough?..I agree with you'...Raise the Tax to say'..60p'...Then they would ease the burdon (Slightly) on lower paid employees'...But a Mansion Tax' is ill-thought out anyway'as it may affect people who are asset rich'...But' not exactly rich in income...I believe a Super Tax could be introduced at some level and safegaurds put in place to make sure No One could Squirrell the money away in Off-Shore Tax Havens'...This could involve a Penalty Tax' of some sort''...So that it wasn't in their interests to syphon money abroad. Osborne' will not consider a tax on the Super-Rich' unless other countries' are in full agreement'..Maybe another Get-Out clause for a Chancellor to kick that idea into touch Methinks?..an increase.Corporation Tax' might be credible on alternative'...But as Osborne has reduced it already'...He's certainly not going to raise that anyway....But something has got to be done to claw in un-paid taxes'..It seems that the lower paid and so-called Squeezed Middle' are going to have to take all the pain'..While the Fat-Cats' get all the gain...?
05:26 PM on 03/12/2012
A better idea would be to scrap income tax altogether.

And VAT, and ...well ....ALL tax,... after all it's only spent on worthless enterprises, OAP, NHS Education, Police, Roads, etc etc etc, we could then have a justified reason for Westminster and all other government establishments to shut up shop.

How rich we would all be without the incredible cost of running this nation.

Yep! how nice it would to collect your wage packet with NOTHING extracted before you open it.
No ten billion quid submarines, no nuclear programme, no Navy, Army, Air Force, just cash in your pocket, cash you can be sure will cover your expenses.

If ALL taxable pay was safe from extraction by the enormous number who have a snatch at it before you get it, which as one person said, the residual amount would buy a pair of laces for your boots, the nation would have no problems at all. Mind you your kids would grow up thicker than they do at present, your old and sick, would get below ground a lot earlier than at the moment, the borders would be even more porous, and without doubt immigration would swamp the whole place, even with malicious intentions because there would be nothing to stop an overall overtaking of our land by invaders.
So, we must pay tax , but we need to rectify the political system that tolerates such profligate waste of our taxes as at the moment.
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07:20 PM on 03/12/2012
Nice idea scouse'...But long before the Fat-Cats' find a way around that also?
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08:45 PM on 03/12/2012
Who'd pay for the roads, the clean water standards, food and drug safety to name only four? If we lived in the fifteenth century, I'd say sure, let's do it. But, alas, we do not. What a silly, ill thought out idea. You don't like what your taxes pay for. Well, for the most part, most of us don't either. But large, complex, technical societies need these things to prosper. I'll put up with being angry over paying for wars and battleships so that the water I drink won't kill me and the drugs I take will be truly efficacious. And that's what we have the vote for. If you don't like something, WORK to get it changed.