David Cameron Seeks 'Endgame' To Military Operations In Afghanistan

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First Posted: 13/03/2012 22:28 Updated: 14/03/2012 10:06

David Cameron has accepted that Afghanistan will not be "a perfect democracy" by the time British troops return home, but said that the public wants to see an "endgame" to a military operation that has lasted more than a decade.

The prime minister was speaking ahead of talks with President Barack Obama in which the two leaders are expected to sketch out a timetable for the withdrawal of international troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

After a red carpet welcome at Andrews Air Base on Tuesday, the Prime Minister joined Mr Obama on board Air Force One for a 70-minute flight to Ohio to enjoy a university basketball match ahead of Wednesday's talks in the White House.

No announcement of further troop drawdowns is expected during his three-day visit, but the two leaders will seek to identify a date - possibly as early as mid-2013 - for Afghan forces to take over the lead security role throughout the country, the Press Association reported.

The transition date is expected to be formally agreed and announced at Nato's summit in Chicago in May, and will allow British and American troops to move into a support role and pave the way for the return home of large numbers in a gradual process beginning next year.

Mr Cameron and Mr Obama used a joint article in the Washington Post to say they were "proud of the progress our troops have made in dismantling al Qaida, breaking the Taliban's momentum and training Afghan forces".

In the wake of the recent deaths of six British soldiers and the massacre of 16 Afghan civilians by a renegade US serviceman, they acknowledged that Nato-led operations in Afghanistan remain "a difficult mission".

But both men indicated they would not be knocked off course or pushed into a precipitate exit from Afghanistan, saying: "We honour the profound sacrifices of our forces and in their name we'll carry on the mission."

Mr Cameron made clear that his view of what constitutes a successful completion to Britain's mission is less ambitious than the dream of a modern democracy in the heart of central Asia bandied around in some quarters when the Taliban regime was first toppled in 2001.

"What I define as doing the job is leaving Afghanistan looking after its own security, not being a haven for terror, without the involvement of foreign troops," the Prime Minister told reporters.

"That should be our goal. So that the British public, our troops and the Afghan government frankly, know there's an end to this.

"This is what we defined in 2010 through the National Security Council. I accept it won't be a perfect democracy. There will be huge development problems."

In recognition of growing public weariness with the war, which a large majority of voters in a recent poll said was unwinnable, Mr Cameron added: "I think people want an endgame. They want to know that our troops are going to come home, they have been there a very long time."

Mr Cameron said that he and Mr Obama will use this week's talks to ensure that the UK and US are "absolutely in lock-step" over the withdrawal process, as well as to discuss future support for Afghanistan after the International Security and Assistance Force (Isaf) has left.

At the request of President Hamid Karzai, Britain has agreed to set up and staff a Sandhurst-style military academy for Afghan army officers, and will also provide funding for training security forces.

Syria is also high on their agenda, with both Mr Cameron and the President admitting frustration at the ongoing bloodshed in the city of Homs as dictator Bashar Assad cracks down on centres of opposition to his regime.

They will look at what additional diplomatic and economic pressure can be brought to bear on Damascus to speed up Assad's removal from power, but are not thought likely to give consideration to more radical measures such as arming rebel groups or providing air cover of the kind seen in Libya last year.

"We want transition," said Mr Cameron. "We want Assad to go. That is the shortest route to stop the bloodshed.

"We are both very frustrated by the situation and wanting to do more in working out how we can add to the pressure the regime faces."

In their joint article, Cameron and Obama issued a warning to Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to fulfil international obligations on his nuclear programme or "face the consequences".

But while both men have made clear they are not ruling out any course of action, they insisted that there was still plenty of scope for increasing pressure on Tehran, including through US sanctions due to come into effect later this year which will effectively blacklist anyone who has dealings with Iran's national bank.

"We both believe there is a longer road of sanctions and pressure to run, but nothing should be taken off the table," said Mr Cameron.

Tuesday's visit to the basketball game between Mississippi Valley State University and Western Kentucky University is part of a packed programme designed to display the warmth of trans-Atlantic relations, including a star-studded state dinner in the White House on Wednesday night.

Mr Cameron is the first foreign leader to be invited by President Obama on board his personal plane, and last evening said he had no doubt of the continuing strength of the special relationship.

"I think the special relationship survives. It's increasingly strong, based on common interests and common values," said the PM.

"We shouldn't have to take its temperature all the time. Sometimes we can over-analyse how many phone calls and how many meetings, but I don't look at it like that."

Mr Cameron said he was "very glad I do get on so well with Barack Obama", adding: "Obama's approach is deeply rational and reasonable, and also very strong."

Basketball is one of the president's passions, and he famously had a court installed at the White House so he could continue to play regularly while in office.

The game marked the start of the hugely popular College March Madness tournament, which is televised to large audiences across the US.

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03:44 PM on 03/14/2012
End game is a done deal. As has become the norm with few exceptions, should the war turn too violent, declare peace with honor as you cut and run.
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mokgee
Sabu.Satsang, Samsara, Solitude...
12:29 PM on 03/14/2012
Is that stuff exiting or entering their mouths, just the usual rhetoric......
12:01 PM on 03/14/2012
Democracy seems to be the problem in so many conflicts around the world. The main problem is the people that run these democracies, they seem think imposing democracy with almost reliegeous fervour will solve all ills. In the west, most so called democracies are morally and often legally corrupt, every thing is spin and subtifuge, most of the wealth owned by a very small percentage of the population. I think the definition of democracy was lost many years ago and replaced by eliteism and greed. You only have to look how many conflicts around the world are ignored because there is no benefit, financialy or politicaly by helping.
There has been ethnic cleansing agaist the Karen tribe in Myanmar/Burma for many years, many thousands have been killed. Why have the west not helped? no benefit maybe?
In all these conflicts thousands of people die or are maimed for life, soldiers and civilians. All these conflicts are started by polititians and government of all persuations and reliegeons, sitting safely behind their desks working out the acceptable losses and possible gains.
When was the last time a government asked their country if they wanted to fight in a conflict in another country?. Not very democratic is it.
12:00 PM on 03/14/2012
tickeli, you are absolutely right.

Right now, as a result of the illegal, imperialist wars for oil in Iraq and for the abundance of valuable natural resources in Afghanistan, there are 5 million displaced Iraqis and an unknown but increasing number of displaced Afghans that Britain is obligated to allow in.

Added to that are 2 million Libyans refugees, who supported Gaddafi, en route to UK as we speak. They will have no problem proving asylum status as the new Islamic fundamentalist regime that we have recently installed will make no hesitation to kill them in the most painful way.

Then millions of Syrians will be heading our way after we eventually invade Syria.

Many more millions of Iranians, with skills in making explosive implements, will also be arriving in UK after we also invade Iran.

So if we think we have too many immigrants now, what will we think when that lot arrives? We must accept that we are now reaping the consequences of our invasion, interference, and exploitation of other peoples in their own countries.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
11:55 AM on 03/14/2012
The endgame for wars in Afghanistan?

It's always the same: either talk to the black king, and arrange for all your pieces to run away with their lives, or resign and let all your pieces run away, hoping they can get away with their lives.
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11:48 AM on 03/14/2012
is it true mountainous countries being invaded by yanks because of HAARP,or is it misinformation,i'd love to know your thoughts
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
11:56 AM on 03/14/2012
It's misinformation. HAARP is a device for studying the ionosphere, it has no obvious relevance for war, unless the warriors are using short-wave radios.
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11:44 AM on 03/14/2012
When a mighty military machine like the USSR could`nt make headway in Afghanistan ,what forlorn hopes do the UK and US have?
12:13 PM on 03/14/2012
All foreign invaders, including the Russians and even Alexander the Great, have failed to defeat these "lion-brave people", as Alexander the Great called them when he invaded in 330 BC.
10:51 AM on 03/14/2012
As with Vietnam they have been deservedly defeated by the natives and cannot get out fast enough with their tails between their legs whilst murdering women and children in their sleep as a last twitch.

Caucasian, Western foreigners illegally invaded Afghanistan not simply to impose their ideology on the Afghans but to exploit their abundance of natural resources.

Afghanistan has
40 trillion cubic feet of natural gas,
about 1 trillion barrels of natural gas liquids,
4 billion barrels of petroleum,
huge amounts of gold, copper, coal, iron ore and other minerals
and do not forget the abundance of cannabis that will be of beneficial use in the future.
Saudi Arabia’s natural resources are small compared to Afghanistans.

Foreigner invaders started mining the gold in Afghanistan and started the process to award lucrative contracts to environmentally friendly multinational companies like BP and Shell to exploit the petroleum. (check out their green record in the Gulf of Mexico and Nigeria).
10:47 AM on 03/14/2012
no point in commenting
10:39 AM on 03/14/2012
all very chummy, but it is plain to see that these two are "running away" from afghanistan after making matters there much worse, too many dead soldiers causing too many loss of votes for both, this will be the uk's "vietnam", but the usa have done it before, and probably do it again, if you can't finish what you started, don't start, what a waste of lower ranking life.
09:17 AM on 03/14/2012
Will we have achieved the same as we did in Iraq? Suicide bombings and murders every week? We've been on a fools errand clung to Bush's coat tails. I've always supported the armed forces no matter what because they're doing the politicians bidding. However they have been let down and when they leave Afganistan it will just revert back to the way its always been. A backward nation of backward people
09:00 AM on 03/14/2012
Game and clotted cream ? Wow I am impressed !!
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majdf18148
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08:40 AM on 03/14/2012
"Won't be a perfect democracy". What a laugh! Withinof months NATO forces withdrawing, Afghanistan will revert to its age old tribal culture. The fragile and corrupt Kharzai Govt will last no longer than a few months. The Taliban will move straight back in. Half the Afghan army will join the Taliban the other half will gap it. The Afghan police will have their drugs delivered directly to them rather than covertly as at present, there will be many flag burning ceremonies. Pakistan can stop pretending it is at war with the Taliban. Everything will settle back the way it always was. Before NATO, before the Russians, before the British Army in the 19th century, before the western world knew the country existed. Afghanistan doesn't want or value democracy. It likes its tribal culture system, what we view as corrupt they view as life. The overwhelming sadness in this tragedy is the number of brave forces personnel who have sacrificed their lives for a cause that was lost before it ever began. It was just a repeat, in a way, of Vietnam, showing a country that is large enough and determined enough cannot always be subjugated by the overwhelming might of conventional warfare. If the invaded hold out long enough; the appetite of the invaders to suffer large losses will quickly diminish and public opinion and finances will dictate the end of the campaign. RIP brave soldiers you did what you could but you were let down by your political masters.
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Saint wright
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09:09 AM on 03/14/2012
excellent totally agree,
10:22 AM on 03/14/2012
Spot on, I'm 100% with you on that one, majdf.
08:05 AM on 03/14/2012
the public want to see an end to it , there is no game involved here , thats the problem none fighting multi millionaires they think its a game , try telling widows its a game , try telling soldiers with arms and legs missing its a game . football is a game . grow up cameron.