The Granny Tax Explained - And The Politics Of It

Posted: 22/03/2012 07:32 Updated: 22/03/2012 13:10

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The Granny Tax has caused outrage

"It was a difficult decision," a Treasury source told me shortly after the budget on Wednesday afternoon, but they insisted they'd anticipated the furore surrounding the so-called Granny Tax - a real terms pay cut for pensioners which will probably make most 65 - 74 year-olds about £100 a year worse off.

I say "probably" because a lot of it will depend on inflation, and because actually no money is really being taken away at all. What's happening is the personal allowance on 65-74 year-olds is being frozen, and not going up by the 4.75% it has tended to rise by in recent years.

"It's something that should have been done a long time ago," said the Treasury source. "The tax system needs to be simplified, and we've taken the tough decision to do it now," they told me, not exactly delighted about what they were doing, because it's clearly caused a big stink.

The backstory is that pensioners have traditionally had a much higher personal allowance before they pay tax than younger people. In the tax year 2011-12 the threshold for under 65s was £7,475, but for 65-74 year olds it was £9,940, and £10,090 for those over 75.

For tax year 2012-13 the rate for 65-74 year olds goes up to £10,500 (£10,660 for over 75s), but from then on it will be frozen. Next year most workers under 65 not paying a higher rate of tax will be significantly better off when the threshold rises to £9205.

But under plans to abolish the different thresholds altogether, pensioners' tax thresholds will stay the same. Had it risen in line with previous years, pensioners might have expected it to go up by 5%, to around £11,000.

The over 75s are on a slightly higher threshold, but will still see theirs frozen. What's clearly happening - and the Treasury is open about it - is a harmonisation of the tax thresholds, all part of a simplification of the tax structure George Osborne believes is a fair and transparent change.

Pensioners will have to wait a couple of years before their threshold rises again - because they will only begin to increase once the tax threshold for everyone else crosses the £10,500 mark.

For the time being an over 65 paying tax at 20% - which most do, will be worse-off than they might have expected to be by about £110 a year, and that's not allowing for the rising cost of living.

Given the threshold has just been hiked up significantly - and that the Lib Dems target is to get it only to £10,000, it seems unlikely that there'll be much tax relief for pensioners for the next couple of years - barring an unforeseen mass revolt forcing George Osborne to perform a u-turn.

Those on the higher rates will be significantly worse-off, but there aren't that many of those, and let's face it, a person of any age bringing in more than £40,000 is unlikely to garner much sympathy for being around £200 worse-off than last year.

The question you have to ask yourself is whether the term "Granny tax" is a misnomer, conjuring up images of very elderly people huddling over electric fires, shrouded in blankets? Some would argue that the threshold freeze actually targets over 65s with plenty of disposable income, not the genuinely impoverished elderly.

Actually, it could have been a lot worse, some Tories wanted the Chancellor to go even further and bring those pensioners who choose to carry on working after retirement age into national insurance. Some MPs see it as slightly odd that these people in effect get a 10% pay rise if they keep on working. They wanted the Chancellor to channel the extra National Insurance money into some kind of fund for young people.

It was something that quite influential Tory MPs were lobbying George Osborne about until quite recently - so things could have been a lot worse!

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10:26 AM on 03/23/2012
This lot must know that they will not win the next election,so they are making hay whilst the sun shines.By screwing the poor and lining their own, already rich pockets.
09:10 AM on 03/23/2012
Pensioners, especially those that saved for a modest private pension, will take huge hit again when income tax is 'simplified' to incorporate National Insurance, which pensioners don't currently pay. Evil scheming Tories. Will they really have the nerve?
Add this to the current grab from people who saved for an extra pension and you can see who the Tories see as the easy targets.
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11:56 PM on 03/22/2012
It seems to me that governments of most of the western economies see the relatively successful, post WWII "baby boomer" generation as a "milch cow" to leach upon to cover theirs and the banks' appalling financial mismanagement. Pensioners beware. We ain't seen nothing yet.
07:22 PM on 03/22/2012
I wish they wouldn't treat us as if we were all senial - saying we won't be worse off & then saying how much the change to the tax allowance for pensioners is going to make for the exchequor. I am personally sick of taking the flack. So far they have changed the date that I can retire meaning I don't get any state pension for 14mths after I am 60, I don't get a bus pass which means I have to pay over £7 per day bus fare for those 14mths and now this. I have worked all of my life any am treated like a second rate citizen. I am not on the bread line but I know pensioners who are and go to bed hungry (and cold in the winter) - not a problem George & David could possibly comprehend because they won't ever have to worry about living like that...they really are so out of touch from the real world it would be farsical if it wasn't so sad. May God forgive you for the misery that you are causing and may the pensioners that you are screwing over never forget...especially when election time comes around again.
05:47 PM on 03/22/2012
i dont care how many lies the ETON TRIO tell the fact is , i as a pensioner who worked for 50 years paying tax and NI and also servcng 25 years in the navy will be worse off furthermore as a lifelong tory voter i am sad to say as long as this gang are in charge i will NEVER EVER VOTE TORY AGAIN
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01:24 PM on 03/22/2012
And they#re after your pension, too - all in order to aford tax breaks for the rich. What was it the Dead Kennedy's sang about killing the poor.? This government is responsible for that much social violence it beggars belief.
01:11 PM on 03/22/2012
the bottom line is that our old age pensioners are worse off than asylum seekers
11:54 AM on 03/22/2012
Excellent - true blue Tory policies!

Rob the elderly who have limited income but have a personal pension to fund tax cuts for the rich (more likely Tory donors).

Nothing like looking after the hand that feeds you, is there George.

Crass politics, crass economics, crass Chancellor.
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11:34 AM on 03/22/2012
Another rich mans budget, not that it was unexpected!
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09:30 AM on 03/22/2012
Doing the right thing isn't always popular.

On the other hand, when it comes to the NHS changes, robbing the people to fund your rich friends isn't always popular either...
09:27 AM on 03/22/2012
I am a 70 year old widow, have a state and private pension which after tax is deducted, amounts to £1000 per month, £12000 per year. As I do not receive pension credits, no extra fuel allowance when the weather is particularly cold and do not have the advantage of paying council tax - what does George Osborne trying to do to us, losing nearly £100 per year when our savings are not even getting any dividend payment seems grossly unfaitr.
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Blockem1
When will our politicians start putting policies
09:10 AM on 03/22/2012
George, what a political blunder , who is advising you !