Greggs Boss Ken McMeikan To Fight Pasty VAT As £30m Is Wiped Off Bakers' Share Price

Posted: 24/03/2012 13:14 Updated: 24/03/2012 13:22   PA

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The boss of leading bakers Greggs has announced it will fight Budget proposals that will see sausage rolls and pasties hit with VAT.

Chancellor George Osborne announced the plans this week to "remove anomalies" from the tax system, which currently sees VAT charged on hot food.

Greggs and other bakers have previously argued that their products are kept warm from the oven rather than served hot, so avoided the 20% tax.

Greggs' chief executive Ken McMeikan said the change was unexpected by the baking industry.

In an interview with the North East-based Journal newspaper, he said: "We want the Government to accept that this was an ill-thought-through move which will harm growth and impact on businesses, individuals and act as counter-productive to the Government's stated aims of growing the economy."

Since the announcement was made £30m has been wiped off the Newcastle-based bakers' share price.

Mr McKeikan will lobby hard for a re-think over the next six weeks, and urged businesses and consumers to argue the Government has made a mistake.

The Journal has launched a Save Our Savouries campaign in support of bakers.

A similar scheme has started in the South West, home of the Cornish pasty.

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09:09 AM on 04/16/2012
I was down town the other day and fancied a Greggs pasty then thought what pay the government even more tax , your right i left it out !
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12:40 PM on 03/27/2012
This is a start on VAT on food which is what the EU want.
11:57 AM on 03/25/2012
Tha Greggs boss has nothing to worry about of the few greggs i have been in i have yet to have a warm pasty never mind a hot 1
11:19 AM on 03/25/2012
Gregg's obviously haven't donated to the Con party.
09:49 AM on 03/25/2012
Perhaps the Greggs boss should have thought about the consequences, before bragging about how much money they were making, which obviously drew attention to the possibility of a revenue raising area. If Greggs are as good as he claims, in all the trade magazines, it should not affect the business as the customer will pay the increase which Greggs will return to the treasury, no different to any other retail enviroment charging vat ie petrol etc etc. What he should be worried about is that the customers will wake up to the excessive charges for sausage rolls, pasties, and a couple of slices of bread called a sandwich. They have been ripping customers off for years and it is no good crying crocodille tears now they have been exposed.
10:13 AM on 03/25/2012
Think of the jobs they created during the financial crisis, instead you want to be petty because they bragged about profits. The profits were used to create jobs.
10:14 AM on 03/25/2012
Greggs, like any other business is run for profit, if it wasn't it wouldn't be worth running. The business provides jobs and pays taxed wages. It relies on customers who, when they take a dinner break, go to Greggs, any butcher or baker, for their sandwiches etc and this will thin the customers out and they won't sell so much so it will mean people will lose jobs.

This is a start on VAT on food which is what the EU want. I think if ALL businesses refuse to collect the VAT for Government and tell them to collect it themselves, it would shake them up and they would realise the people do not deserve to be persicuted like this.
09:30 AM on 03/25/2012
How can you justify taxing food . VAT was brought in as a luxury tax . now it covers every thing . my bigest gripe is the vat they charge on the tax they put on petrol a tax on a tax . WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH IT . WE NEED A REVOLUTION
10:02 AM on 03/25/2012
VAT has always been charged on sausage rolls which are hot. No VAT if they are cold. McDonalds get away with hot delhi sandwiches because they argue they are hot because they are cooked fresh as apposed to need to be hot. It has been this way atleast since the 1980's when I started accountancy. Nothing new here.
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KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
05:07 AM on 03/25/2012
My pasties from Greggs are usually mildly tepid. I would not accept them as 'hot' by any means.

Does this mean that a 'toasted' sandwich from Subway will carry VAT, but one not toasted will not?

On another note of incredible wisdom on the part of the Chancellor, I note that VAT will be applied to the sale of new static caravans. The government says the impact will be a loss of 30% of new caravan sales, which will create a net loss for the nation in terms of jobs lost and related VAT-rateable businesses hit by this.

Nice one, George. Explain that to the thousands soon to be made unemployed.
12:08 AM on 03/25/2012
As to the company refered to, we are not really talking quality food are we?
Any mouse droppings in the product?
Much better home made food,
Think of the pricing levels, how good must be the product for the price?
10:11 PM on 03/24/2012
Oh dear. You're gonna have to change the AOL and HuffPost buzzword when describing every woman under the age of 60.
There will be VAT to pay for "She's hot."
09:32 PM on 03/24/2012
What I'd like to know how can "hot food" remove the anomalies?

At what temperature is food classified as "hot" - your "hot" could be my "warm"......don't think the Chancellor has thought this onme through.

What next warm rolls and bread straight from the ovens being classified as "hot food" and of course the VAT added?????
10:05 AM on 03/25/2012
VAT has always been charged on hot food such as hot sausage rolls. Cold ones attract no VAT. This is nothing new just a review of the excuse Greggs give as to why theres are hot.
08:19 PM on 03/25/2012
VAT has NEVER been charged on food that has been cooked for sale such as pies or sausage rolls cooked straight from the oven and are in the process of "cooling down".

Food that was cooked and re-heated such as pies and sausage rolls were always subject to VAT - this is the difference to the new ruling.

On the same rules and regulations bread, rolls etc., could also be subject to VAT with a 20 percent rise in price also......
10:19 AM on 03/25/2012
Paul Lewis on BBC Breakfast said the VAT will be applied to "food which is of ambient temperature" This is +4 degrees. It is the temperature of all food which is chilled and travels about in lorries so it is a start to VAT on all food.
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09:12 PM on 03/24/2012
The people of the Uk gave the Tory party the benefit of the doubt (just) at the election.
Well let's call time on this lot quickly. All the help GB gave to us over labour's terms in office they are systematically taking away. Oh not really because of a deficit.They see it as a right, it is them and us kind of thing-Well you had it now its ours..
Osborne and his chum Cameroon treating the electorate with total contempt get them out now!!
08:13 PM on 03/24/2012
Typical Government,get rid of our own business"s,and allow more in from Europe,excellent aint it.
07:53 PM on 03/24/2012
I think that I have found a loophole.
If the shop sells food to a customer cold this is zero VAT.
They could then provide free use of microwave ovens for the customer to heat the purchased food in.
No money has passed hands so no VAT.
09:35 PM on 03/24/2012
But the bakers has to let the food go cold before they can sell it VAT free.....bloody stupid. Bakers up and down the Country with food going cold in back room when it could be sold freshly baked and straight from the oven.

Not everyone likes microwave oven re-warmed food but good idea......
KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
05:10 AM on 03/25/2012
I expect shops will not be allowed to let customers use their microwaves for some spurious 'health and safety' nonsense.

I attended a meeting last night where the attendees were not allowed to put their chair away after due to 'health and safety'. They could move chairs around the room, but to stack them where they came from was a no-no.
07:02 PM on 03/24/2012
In my opinion there is a lot at steak here. Wallpaper man's on a roll here. He has definitely drawn the short crust. They've progressed from discussing a bit of puff in the house to pie in the sky taxes. It just means that any future demonstrators could only stage their behavior during summer months, and football matches lasting 45 minutes in the winter all due to to the lack of the warm delights supplied by our bakers. Thousands suffering withdrawal symptoms of a hot sausage could march on Parliament, piping bags at the ready. It could end up as a storm in a bovril cup. Simple Simon won't meat anybody going to the fair now, and Mary can take her little lamb back from whence it came. Isn't life under the coalition just great!
KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
05:11 AM on 03/25/2012
I have had a Gregg's pasty.

Believe me, there is NOT a lot of steak there.