Universities Still Favour Private School Pupils As Less State School Students Accepted

The Huffington Post UK  |  By Posted: 30/03/2012 11:24 Updated: 30/03/2012 11:24

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University entrants from state schools dropped 1% last year

Leading universities are allocating fewer places to state school pupils, despite a government drive to improve social mobility, figures reveal.

More than 40% of top institutions admitted less students from state than independent schools in the past academic year of 2010-11. The figures show many universities failed to hit government admission targets by a long shot, with 61% not recruiting enough students from poor and disadvantaged backgrounds.

The news contradicts deputy prime minister Nick Clegg's promise to introduce access agreements to the higher education sector to ensure 90% of state school pupils have an equal chance to attend the UK's best universities.

The statistics, released by the Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) named and shamed Exeter, Birmingham and Cambridge among those who saw a drop in state school students.

Out of university entrants last year, 88.7% were from state schools, a decline of 0.1% from the previous year. Around 10% were from low participation neighbourhoods.

The statistics show 16 out of the 24 Russell Group universities admitted fewer state school students.

In February, private schools voiced their fears over social mobility engineering at university after Les Ebdon was appointed the new higher education admissions tsar.

Ebdon, whose succession caused huge controversy, has publicly admitted his mission is to increase the number of working class pupils at university.

On Thursday, the HESA revealed the number of students from poorer backgrounds dropping out of university increased.

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07:36 PM on 04/01/2012
What is wrong with Universities favouring privately educated candidates? They are better prepared and have been "conditioned" as future leaders from an early age! Just remember that some of these priveleged privately educated students come from quite humble stock! I dont want any prizes or patrinising nonsense fro anyone, but I prvately educated all 5 of my children...and I was brought up on a very poor council estate in Newcastle! With 70% of teachers in the public sector schools being socialists, thank goodness we have private schools
10:32 AM on 04/01/2012
I doubt this report is showing a complete picture. No mention of numbers applying or grades attained. Bearing in mind that the cost is now very high I suspect that cost has reduced the number of applicants from poorer backgrounds.

Show the full picture and stop hiding the truth.
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12:59 AM on 04/01/2012
I thought the criteria for University entrance was the qualifications attained to comply with entry requirements, not who went to what school. Merit, not statistics, is the answer.
10:02 PM on 03/31/2012
you dont need to go to university be abe to make pasties and serve petrol do you cave dameron.
09:34 PM on 03/31/2012
I am fed up with constant social engineering.

Raising standards rather than forcing admission targets should be the priority. There is a myth that private school pupils have it easy. They work hard for their grades, sit the same exams only to be discriminated upon as Universities demand higher grades from them so as to accommodate government forced 'lower' grades for 'disadvantaged' ' state school' where supposedly the pupils are totally victims that have no idea they should work hard , ie take 'higher' tier subjects.

Private Schools have all kinds of pupils, but does any one remember those pupils from 'poor' backgrounds who worked hard to gain entry?

How do children in poor countries some barely able to afford a meal, a shoe or text book , work hard scoring high marks all without the excuse of poverty being a hindrance.
The problem is largely aspiration, example set by parents.

Look around while Private /Grammar /Good State School pupils come home with up to 5 pieces of home work a day, who is hanging around corners with friends?

Britain, stop telling those children that they are discriminated upon where the problem is at times their own poor performance, weak effort.

Some parents instill the merits of hard work and appreciation of education in their children from day one, rich or poor.
So why should their child get A*A A A , and supposedly the child with B B C or BC get into Exeter, Birmingham ?
10:16 PM on 03/31/2012
I assume you send your children to private school? The current system is absolutely flawed with the offer system before the grades come out, and handed out to children who attended the "correct" private school and who have parents who are part of the old boys network. We have recently seen this first hand. Our niece was refused a place at Oxbridge after attending interviews where most candidates were from Marlborough. She presents well, but was state educated. She also attained 4A* at A level, in what you would class as "higher" tier subjects. Thank goodness she was offered a place at Durham. What a disgrace she was refused from Oxbridge purely due to not having the correct parentage.
04:28 PM on 03/31/2012
This is not so bad as long as you can take all the exams you need later on in life. I didn't take my A levels until I was 30. Ok it annoyed some of the public school types later on because they thought I was doing it to show off and some became very angry. I did go briefly to University but could not really afford it.
02:59 PM on 03/31/2012
Where did it go wrong we have more going to university than fifty years ago yet less educated individuals now than we ever did. We now have children that are not allowed to play free to experience the joys of discovery, climbing trees swinging on ropes playing congers falling out with their friends while playing then laughing with them instantaneously friends once more. Schools gave hope, guidance, showed boundaries and consequences even though some teachers had sadistic tendencies and we all loved to push them as far as we could, so long as our parents never found out. School was hard work and rivalry was strong a state secondary would have fun at the expense of a grammar but not many of us came into contact with public schools an anathema to all working men and their children. They were seen as self-important being better than the rest too posh for their own good, yet every working man wanted that education for their child.

What we came up with was the comprehensive, a system of throwing all into the same pot but without public schools, teaching under continued political interference started its slow decline. Academically universities took hold thousands taught but very few educated as these students moved into the working world life began to change political correctness took hole and we became risk averse. Academia replaced intelligent for intelligent is not what you know but the way you use what you know, just like the old schools.
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12:25 PM on 03/31/2012
My family has grown up and attended schools in a terribly poor area. In general the teachers are appalling and too arrogant too care or listen. No matter how hard they try they are dragged down by badly behaved and disruptive kids and incompentent teachers, when you find a good one the difference is shocking. My sister has come into money ans because her daughter was doing so badly and being so badly bullied they have just changed her to a private school. The difference is scandalous. She is happy and learning more than ever. She just can't wait to leave in the morning. She does longer hours but her home time is her as she has no homework. She has gone from 32 in her class to 15 and if my sister needs to speak to a teacher she actually can and they listen. Is it any wonder that our kids are left behind?
09:43 PM on 03/31/2012
You have a point that is why entry to all schools should be selective, on merit so that those pupils and parents who appreciate, value and seek the merits of education should not be lumbered by those who at times careless and frankly most of whom do not want tor care or welcome to be helped.
Clear and simple, only an idiot should not be able to see the merits of education even if just so one can read one's own newspaper and clearly communicate one's own own thoughts, must I add to others!

In most countries people are encouragede to appreciate that life is competitive and rewards hard work, but now days the message isyou can advance long regardless
11:20 AM on 03/31/2012
What should be done is, stop private education and private health care in this country, then see the rich plough more money into services.
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11:51 AM on 03/31/2012
That is not right at all. The answser is to improve state school teaching, then, and only then will there be equal acceptance from both sectors. If schools are State run, that is the responsibility of the State to ensure there is a good basic education for all. Children are leaving school unable to read and write, whatever are they doing at school all those years, there has to be something wrong with teacher training and/or methodology. Health care is a personal choice, it's up to the individual. It's not just wealthy people who provide private health care for themselves, some people have so little confidence in the NHS, they make decisions to cut their leisure to provide private health care for themselves. After all you only get one life, why waste it on something like substandard healthcare.

One thing doesn't seem to click with some people, in that private education is actually very good, and there is no reason why State education cannot be as good. Good basic teaching is not just about money.
01:05 PM on 03/31/2012
The answer is better training, smaller class sizes, leading to more one to one tuition . In the health service, we need faster diagnosis leading to faster treatment in our hospitals.
All this takes more money and if we had no private on these two issues, I believe we would see vast improvements leading to a more equal society. The wealthy are in fact taking these trained tax funded best teachers and medical staff away from the less well off in society. I do agree with you though on the poor quality of some teachers. I remember Blair coming into power and saying we need smaller class sizes, once voted in,I think it was Blunkett that said, we could in fact have more children in classes. Kind regards Jeff
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06:24 PM on 03/31/2012
Go to a communist state then, and see what happens there
Southern law girl
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07:49 PM on 03/31/2012
I shall tell you something about communist states. Years ago friends of my parents were lefties, they had been friends for years but always agreed to disagree. Their passion for communism took them to live in Russia, this would have been late Forties, early Fifties. By the late Fifties they were back, and I can remember going to theirs for tea and the discussions over tea. Firstly, but in a 'nutshell', their lives were not their own, after work they had to queue for basic provisions, provisions were rationed, and had to do the same thing over again the next night. To take a shower, it was public showers in Moscow, and watched every hour of the day. Their working day was from 07.00 am until 09.00 pm at night, then they had to shop before going back to their flat. Then to bed to rise again at 05.00, for seven days a week. That is the truth. Once a month they had a day off if they were lucky. Their vision of communism was quickly dashed, they couldn't wait to get back to England, one thing stopping them, they were not allowed to leave Russia for eight years. Tea was a sad affair that day. Sounds hard to believe, but I promise you it is true.
11:43 PM on 03/30/2012
Maybe 9k tuition fees have had an impact, as well as the cancelling of EMA for 6th formers. Was that what the Liberals pledged to support? What damning indictment of this lousy rotten Tory Coalition that education has been compromised for short term bankers profits. Blair got many things wrong (wars etc) but his Liberal policy on education was commendable..the fact he gave public money to PFI's was not bonny but it's better than Gove the wimpy Tory private-educated t&^%er who has been educated beyond his intelligence.
09:29 PM on 03/30/2012
It's called the Big Society.

Millions of unemployed illiterates cared for public schooled, university educated altruistic and benevolent masters.

Lords of the Manor and serfdom. Nothing changes.

The other Dave.
03:07 PM on 03/31/2012
What kind of sense does that make?
08:02 PM on 03/31/2012
If you are suggesting that my comment does not make sense, you are very naive.

There is serious unemployment in the UK; educational standards have fallen in state schools; lack of wealth creation means that we are poor global competitors; university education is fast becoming a preserve of the wealthy.
How come many people cannot afford to put a roof over their heads now when 30 years ago it was easy.

The rich are getting richer and the poor dispossessed.

Read Will Hutton & Roger Bootle. You will find them very interesting.
06:31 PM on 03/30/2012
"despite a government drive to improve social mobility" They couldn't "drive" a "mobility" scooter. Must keep Oxbridge for those that went to Eton, jolly good idea old chap, what, pip pip and tally ho.
03:18 PM on 03/31/2012
People are far too quick to read class prejudice into this. The fact remains that on the whole, private schools provide better teaching than do state schools. If you want your child to do well, talk to them about what you yourself know. Tell them (or read to them) exciting moments of history, and try and make it as interesting as you can. Teach them numeracy at an early age. Tell them about rivers and mountains and show them a map of the world and just where countries are situated. Don't leave everything to teachers. Be one yourself. My son went to a comprehensive, but still managed to get a good university degree.
06:02 PM on 03/30/2012
It is a shame. But sadly, it is one of the facts of life. A private school education is generally better than that from a state school simply because the teaching is better. This is because the teachers have themselves been to university rather than trained in the state school system.
05:05 PM on 03/30/2012
I really think it is payback time from the aristocracy for having their houses took off them and given to the National Trust and ordinary people getting on and making more money than them. This is revenge plain an simple.
07:36 PM on 03/31/2012
Grow up.
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