Pupils Need Tougher Discipline To Rival Corporal Punishment, Says ATL Member

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Discipline is 'totally inadequate' according to an ATL member

Schools need tough behaviour sanctions to rival corporal punishment as a deterrent for naughty pupils, teachers have warned.

Current methods, such as detention, suspension and exclusion, fail to deal with behaviour problems because headteachers are more concerned with meeting targets and losing income than disciplining students.

Julian Perfect, a teacher from inner London, made the comments at a union conference but insisted he was not advocating a return to corporal punishment.

At ATL's annual conference in Manchester on Wednesday, Perfect proposed a resolution which warned that successive governments have failed to introduce effective ways of dealing with naughty pupils since corporal punishment was abolished in 1986.

The forms of discipline currently available to teachers remain "totally inadequate," the motion said.

"Effective teaching and learning cannot take place against a constant background of disruptive behaviour by pupils.

"Moreover, where such behaviour is a regular occurrence it should not be attributed to a teacher's inability to plan and take lessons.

He continued: "This motion does not seek the reinstatement of corporal punishment but rather the identification of additional forms of sanction for use by teachers to deal with inappropriate behaviour."

The resolution instructed ATL's executive committee to look into suitable effective disciplinary measures to alleviate the "debilitating effects on children who want to learn and teachers who want to teach".

A survey released by ATL last week suggested that poor parenting could be fuelling bad behaviour in schools.

A third of teachers have dealt with physical violence recently, and behaviour has worsened in the last five years, with pupils kicking, punching, pushing and shoving school staff, it said.

The current government has given teachers greater powers to search pupils, to issue no-notice inspections and clarified guidance on use of force.

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Schools need tough behaviour sanctions to rival corporal punishment as a deterrent for naughty pupils, teachers have warned. Current methods, such as detention, suspension and exclusion, fail to de...
Schools need tough behaviour sanctions to rival corporal punishment as a deterrent for naughty pupils, teachers have warned. Current methods, such as detention, suspension and exclusion, fail to de...
 
 
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10:19 PM on 04/04/2012
Took a while to work that out didn't they. Two generations too late.
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05:05 PM on 04/04/2012
Kids are kids, and without the proper guidelines and consequences, they will turn any adult in to a mad man. How do we solve such a problem? We must create a law that disables all parents from sueing a teacher or a district. Currently, the focus on lawsuits and/or the probablility of them rather than on the children. Children cannot learn in an unruly environment. They must have proper guidelines and consistent consequences. Without them, all suffer, the student, the teacher, the parent and the district.
As a teacher, I have entered classrooms to set guidelines and consistent consequences, yet because children are not use to them, they rebel and say whatever they want about me as their teacher. The truth doesn't really matter as all of it is written up in the teacher's file and left to affect that teacher's career. So for the last several years I've earned a mere $10 an hour substituting in classrooms rather than a full-time salary of $48,000 or more. Besides that, I've endured the stress of not having a job with a proper salary, the stress of having kid's accusations of me in my file, the resentment of seeing inadequate teachers hired over me and even watching teachers from Mexico get the job before me. If this isn't enough to break anyone's spirit I don't know what is. More importantly, good kids that deserve a proper education are not receiving it in today's public schools.
09:26 AM on 04/08/2012
I grew up in a time where rules were rules at home and in school, we followed them, period, we were all children once, we all had to learn, this starts early on, there were consequences to be had if not, of course we were allowed to speak, but, there were certain things we didn't question, behavior is a big problem today. I can't find the article I was reading a little while ago, there were so many comments, and I wanted to respond to one, and lost it. There is no consistency today, part of the problem, a big part, kids can be rude, crude, unruly, disruptive, and it's lets ask "little Johnnie, or Janie", as the case may be, "how do you feel about that?" I think, when they receive consistent consequences for such behavior, they may start knowing where it will get them, consequences they don't like. How we get back to that from here, well, that one I don't know.
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12:15 PM on 04/08/2012
Consistent consequencs is really the key. But, I'm not convinced that schools want teachers to pursue that route. Why? Because, any consequences lead to a round of parents calling the school or administrator to complain. Whether parents have a legitimate complaint or not, it really doesn't matter. In the end, the teacher will suffer the consequences in their file rather than the student.