Tax Avoidance: 800 Charities Sign Up To 'Give It Back George' Over Donation Crackdown

The Huffington Post UK  |  By Posted: 11/04/2012 12:02 Updated: 12/04/2012 08:45

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The government is facing a backlash from charities after the government claimed multimillionaires were dodging tax by donating to causes.

Charities, who are campaigning against plans to cap tax reliefs on donations to charity from April 2013, say millions of pounds of donations could be at risk following the crackdown.

The prime minister's official spokesperson defended George Osborne's claim that the cap would prevent "abuse" of the system, saying on Tuesday that "in certain instances" people "may be giving to charities" who don't "do a great deal of charitable work" to avoid tax.

David Cameron stood by the comments saying on Wednesday, saying during a visit to Indonesia: "There is a problem with some people using a range of tax allowances to reduce their effective tax rate," he said.

"There's no doubt that some abuse is taking place. We've been informed of that by the Inland Revenue."

More than 800 charities have signed up to the Give It Back George campaign, which is being run by the National Council for Voluntary Organisations (NCVO), to fight the cap.

The NCVO's Deputy Chief Executive Ben Kernighan said Number 10's comments represented a "remarkable slur" and were "extraordinarily unhelpful."

"I think that on the one hand you have got a government which has been talking about the importance of charities and trying to promote philanthropy and now we get this remarkable new line of attack.

"You've got a Charity Commission whose purpose it is to regulate charities. If the government doesn't think that charities are being regulated well, they should do something about it, rather than trying to cut off an enormous amount of funds. They are presenting no evidence of this being a significant problem and they are also using an enormous sledge hammer to crack what appears to be a bit of a small nut," he told The Huffington Post UK.

John Low, Chief Executive of the Charities Aid Foundation said Chancellor George Osborne was "wrong to equate tax relief on major donations to charity with tax avoidance," adding that a "blanket cap" would cost "millions of pounds."

“We should recognise and celebrate today’s great philanthropists, not brand them as wealthy tax dodgers," he said.

Regulator the Charity Commission said they were "not aware" of the specific details behind Number 10's comments

In a statement they said: "We are not aware of the detail of these specific concerns, however we consider concerns about charities raised with us on a case by case basis and in line with our normal regulatory approach".

Tory MPs also tweeted their concern, with backbencher Zac Goldsmith and parliamentary private secretary to Northern Ireland secretary Owen Paterson Conor Burns saying:


Conor Burns MP
Surely if registered charities are bogus that is matter for Charity Commission to look at? Not reason to choke funding to genuine charities


Zac Goldsmith
I don't believe the Govt has any evidence at all to justify its decision to crap on the charity sector.

According to the NCVO 7% of people provide 45% of funding for charities.

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The government is facing a backlash from charities after the government claimed multimillionaires were dodging tax by donating to causes. Charities, who are campaigning against plans to cap tax rel...
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02:02 PM on 04/12/2012
Just listen to the spokesmen / women from these charitable organisations crying over a possible loss of income. What some are really afraid of I suspect is the threat to their salaries. I think it is an absolute disgrace that people some of whom are very hard up themselves make donations to charities and only a few pence in every pound actually helps the cause while the rest is eaten up in administration costs. If you do charitable work it should be on a voluntary basis admin staff should NOT be paid huge salaries or any salary at all come to that. Sorry I have no sympathy whatsoever get your own house in order.
11:48 AM on 04/12/2012
Rather than sending money to India, (who say they don't want it anyway), give that money to British Charities.
11:47 AM on 04/12/2012
Another case of hadn't thought it through.... well I had and I'm no politician... how much are they paid?
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09:53 AM on 04/12/2012
This will run and run until the inevitable U-turn. What incredible stupidity, even for this incredibly stupid government.
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09:15 AM on 04/12/2012
So everyone donating to charity is a tax dodger........ The Government does not provide enough money for our services so we need Charities to provide any little cover for the shortfall. The Government want these charities to closed down so only the Government services that we pay for in our taxes, and get a bad services, are only available to the poor. The Government will then demand more taxes to "improve" services or remove these services and hand them over to Private companies that you have to pay for something that should be covered by our taxes. So the government are saying that charity donations are tax avoidance and the charities should give the money to the inept government
Richard Britton
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02:12 AM on 04/12/2012
this outfit can't get anything right

everything they do is wrong and often so wrong they have to u-turn

whatever happened to the Big Society?

went the same way as so many ideas from these twits
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03:03 AM on 04/12/2012
Just another Empty Slogan'...from an empty head...lol
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Gunderan
Who let the Libertarians out without supervision?
09:35 PM on 04/11/2012
Because some charities such as Mind spend all thier donations on lobbying and working with the Goverment of which ever stripe then no it shouldn't be tax exempt.Zac Goldsmith hahahahah like he knows so much about how charities work hahahahaha.
The Charities commission havent a clue so many organisations lobbying for cash do nothig constructive and i have had personal experience of this.Some charities are used by Goverment to cut support networks and when you need them they are never there.
For every really good charity there are 4 more that are overpaid.useless bureaucrats
Plus if you want to save money stop giving charity to the City and bankers and spend the cash rebuilding the country
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09:10 PM on 04/11/2012
I have a great idea!
As all national insurance and income tax is in fact a donation to the government- Can we all choose to gift aid it?
Philanthropy starts at home!
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vividrick
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08:35 PM on 04/11/2012
There's nothing wrong with philanthropy in principal, but not when it means you avoid tax & metry to influence power. Pay your taxes AND give to charity, not necessarily one or the other.
05:48 PM on 04/11/2012
Very simple to resolve the root problem. Remove charity status from any organisation which spands more than 5% of its income on administration, paid fundraising and ANY other activity NOT directly benefitting the cause the charity supports.
12:49 PM on 04/12/2012
At last! someone else that can see through the big 'charities' rip-off. The article says over 800 charities.... 800 ! ..... each one of those charities has employees, wages bills, premises, etc., and often, huge advertising bills, for TV, radio, press ads and articles, not forgetting the glossy mags and cuddly toys that are sent out to donors. It has become a whole industry. Then in the case of foreign charitable aid, the miserable few pence left over gets top-sliced by dictators and corrupt officials. How many charities are allegedly providing the same aid... like Food and Water in drought ridden/ war-torn countries? More than one? I think so... so why not just one of each type, with just one lot of overheads. Currently, the poor souls who need help don't see very much if anything of what we give. THAT is what Mr Cameron needs to sort out.
04:35 PM on 04/11/2012
Some of these charities will have to use the millions of pounds they in their bank accounts for the purpose to which it was given. Look at many of the charity shops these days, most have been refitted to look like high street stores. Overpaid CEO's and managers, Plush head offices with full-time paid staff. Property investments and rental income, it's become all corporate style.

The meaning of charity has disappeared from many of them. Even the Charity shops pick and choose what they want to take from doner's.

I was in charity shop in Aberdeen last year, the lady who had been manager for many years as she told me was dripping in gold chains, diamond rings and gold bangles. I thought it a bit of an insult for someone fronting an Oxfam shop.
03:04 PM on 04/11/2012
It is worrying how little the Govenment know about tax, under the present rules if a taxpayer subject to 50% tax pays £100 to a charity and signs a gift aid declaration covering the payment, the charity claims basic rate tax so the charity ends up with £125 while the taxpayer reduces their tax bill by £37.50. The net cost to the taxpayer is £62.50 - it is still a cost, if no donation had been made the taxpayer would be better off. This is nothing new although the fine print has changed it's been working like this since long before I first got involved with tax in the early 1980's
It is also concerning that both David Cameron and George Osborne refer to the Inland Revenue - it became HM Revenue and Customs in 2005.

What we need is someone at the top who understands the tax system who can simplify the rules rather than yet another politician who adds a further layer of complexity to the system.
05:49 PM on 04/11/2012
I think thier concern is aimed at big donors giving to charties whose work it woul dbe difficult to regard as ' Charitable'.
08:00 PM on 04/11/2012
If the concern is charities not carrying out charitable work this should be an issue for the Charities Commission not the tax system.

The George Osborne interview in the Telegraph commented on ways 20 individuals used legal means to avoid paying tax, one of which was using gift aid. The emphasis with gift aid was all on the individual paying less tax rather than the donor's £62.50 being worth £125 to the charity.

It all looks like the government giving tax breaks then getting upset because people use them, so we end up with ever increasing complexity and unintended results.
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02:26 PM on 04/11/2012
Theres charities and theres charities. I stopped doing the National Lottery when I found out that one of the "good causes" benefitting from Lottery money, was a charity giving legal aid to failed asylum seekers.
People are conditioned to think immediately of Clic, Age Concern, RSPCA etc when they hear the word charity. There are a lot of dubious charities out there including some affiliated to Islamic causes.
12:56 PM on 04/11/2012
It would be easy to jump on the bandwagon and criticise Cameron and the Tories on this, but I suspect they are quite right. And indeed the whole wider issue of Foreign Aid needs to be looked at in a detached and rational manner.
02:24 PM on 04/11/2012
The criticism is directed at the slurring of the charities, in saying some are doing very little charity work, but without the decency to say which ones, so the good ones can't step clear of this accusation. The government has earned this by their words and deeds.

This criticism does seem rational, but I don't see how detachment is going to help, rather it would seem to be the problem.
05:53 PM on 04/11/2012
I meant detachment in the sense of looking at Foreign aid in an analytical and non emotional way. In a recent panel programme, someone asked about the level of Foreign aid and the politicians who were all in favour of it only seemed to be able to justify it and the basis ' that it was a good thing to do'. But if you not analyse what is being done and make an assessment of the effectiveness of it, then how can anyone say it is effective?
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12:17 PM on 04/11/2012
What happened to this......................"Abake Assongba, a prominent bundler for Barak Obama’s reelection campaign has been accused of running a scam against a Swiss businessman in Florida, which resulted in the poor sot suing to get his $650,000 back.  I understand that the very act of even reporting such unpleasantry generally results in rabid accusations of racism from the Left, but in this case, I’ll gladly take the heat."
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09:06 PM on 04/11/2012
What a charitable comment- Absolutely nothing to do with the article.
Moron- just MY opinion!