Mayoral Candidates Clash At Evening Standard Debate

The Huffington Post UK  |  By Posted: 12/04/2012 08:22 Updated: 12/04/2012 11:11

Mayor Boris Johnson was caught in a fiery exchange with Ken Livingstone on Wednesday night, accusing his Labour opponent of "playing politics" over last year's London riots.

This war of words came as the leading mayoral candidates met at their largest public debate yet, held in the Emmanuel Centre for the London Evening Standard.

Livingstone took a swipe at Johnson for the time he took to return to London after the riots broke out.

"It was a catastrophic misjudgement. If you loved this city you'd want to be here when things go wrong" he shouted, to loud applause from the audience.

Johnson responded, to boos, by branding Livingstone's "attempts to play politics" with the riots as "very low".

"I was in a caravan stuck up a mountain with very poor mobile reception and I was a good 300 miles from the nearest airport. As soon as it was obvious what was going on, I got back as fast as I could," he added.

The candidates discussed their plans to improve London transport. Johnson launched an attack on Livingstone's plans to reduce fares as, he argued, infrastructure investment would suffer.

"It's complete codswallop to say there's a surplus in the TFL budget [to pay for fare cuts]. It's utter baloney. Ken needs to level with Londoners about where the money is coming from," he said.

Livingstone suggested his plans were based on TFL documents, adding that his planned 7% fare cut would be the "smallest" in his career.

Liberal Democrat candidate Brian Paddick quipped: "All these numbers get thrown around and who knows who can make sense of them!"

Paddick also came to the Mayor's defence on his transport policy. "While Boris plays the fool, he's not stupid. If he had the money to reduce fares before an election - surely he would have done it?" he said.

The candidates also discussed their tax arrangements. Green Candidate Jenny Jones admitted that she just "blurted out" her request on Newsnight that the candidates should publish their tax returns, saying she was "exasperated" with the nature of the debate.

Johnson touched on reports that he had confronted Livingstone in an explosive argument in a lift about tax arrangements. "I felt entitled to correct him in a pithy and frank way," he joked.

Livingstone declared that the tax furore had been stoked up by his opponents as a "complete distraction" from serious political issues. He claimed that the details he published of his tax arrangements "lanced the boil". The Labour candidate was a bit flustered as he faced heckles from the audience to "give it back!" and "resign!"

The mayoral debate was briefly disrupted by BNP Mayoral candidate Carlos Cortiglia, who complained about the "democratic problem" since he and two other mayoral candidates were not represented at the debate. He was brushed off and remained at the back of the theatre, waving a paper for attention in vain.

David Coburn, UKIP candidate for Bexley & Bromley, told HuffPost UK that the debate was "very tame".

"Everyone avoided answering the questions. They're determined to keep Ukip off the airwaves and out of everything. The Greens have only got 3% but we are on 11% and it looks like we are going to get 3 or 4 London Assembly candidates."

Independent Candidate Siobhan Benita accused the candidates of not talking about youth issues. She later told the Huffington Post UK that there were a "lot of issues that they didn't talk about enough."

"The debate was not particularly challenging. They only mentioned housing at the end and barely anything about youth issues," she added.

Benita also received support from Brian Paddick - who said he wished she could be on stage debating too as they are "almost" alike. She was cynical, when speaking to us, about whether he was sincere: "The candidates may say that [they want me included] but do they really mean it?"

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02:29 PM on 04/16/2012
The armchair criminologists and social scientists debate the riots, when only one of the candidates, Brian Paddick actually has the knowledge, understanding, skills and ability to aid in curing some of the causes.

It should be remembered that whilst Ken was Mayor, he supported and did not hold to account the Metropolitan Police over the Jean Charles de Mendez shooting, and whilst London burned last year, Boris languished abroad on holiday like Emperor Neru.

Brian put his neck on the line, and challenged the Metropolitan Police, and its then Commissioner over the Stockwell shooting, and would never have committed such a dereliction of duty as Boris did in 2011.
09:47 PM on 04/12/2012
The major problem with this election is that if you are not part of the state radio and tv (BBC) magic circle, you are blocked from access to all types of media. It may seem extraordinary to those in other countries (except perhaps Burma or Zimbabwe) but the BBC is given the right to effectively block meaningful access of certain candidates to media through "editorial guidelines" which allow vast coverage to the state favoured candidates and scarcely any tv to others. This has an impact on event organisers who come under pressure not to include candidates in the BBC's "wrong class". The BBC does not want to have to censor them out of the coverage, but its guidelines would demand that it did so if some were to appear on stage and not others. It would prefer event organisers to do this on its behalf if they want tv coverage. This is what one organiser told me in 2008 when they were organising a hustings. Additionally, these candidates in the wrong class are barred by the rules from sending even one letter to their constituents - in some countries this would cause a revolution, not just someone waving a piece of paper from the back of a hall.
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Ben Wilson
Might as well laugh while you still can.
03:14 PM on 04/12/2012
Call me evil, but Boris can sometimes look like he has an extra 21st chromosome. Yes I know how unfair that is to those that do. Boris shouldnt be compared to anyone.
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gimmeanamethen
saying it like it is
12:36 PM on 04/12/2012
tweedle dee and tweedle dum are off again.

and do londoners even want either of these two as mayor?

they have both had a try at the post and have done nothing for london.
ken with his transport promises, and boris with his "jobs for locals" on the olympic site.
empty words from both men.
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
11:22 AM on 04/12/2012
Whether or not you agree with the BNP, the fact remains they are a recognised political party. To refuse to allow their candidate 'air time' is simply censorship, and cannot in any way be justified. Surely the opposite is true. The more time they are allowed to tell people their views and policies, the faster people will see what they are. Or is it that the established parties are afraid that people may agree with them? Is that the reason they are kept out of the media view at any cost? Whichever is the case, the established parties are as usual treating us as fools who cannot make a rational decision as to who to vote for. In the next breath they claim we are a democracy. A democracy that only allows one point of view?? What kind of democracy is that?
02:21 PM on 04/12/2012
i could not have said it better . THEY ARE AFRAID! ''In future tyranical & Politically Correct times,JUST telling the truth will become a revolutionary act'' George Orwell
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
03:07 PM on 04/12/2012
Yes, they are afraid that te cosy little coalition of three, may split up, and with British politics being at it's lowest ebb since the rotten boroughs the sooner the better
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mokgee
Sabu.Satsang, Samsara, Solitude...
09:00 AM on 04/12/2012
A two horse race, where both are Donkeys, some race this one hey....Not even an each way bet will bring any lasting rewards.......
08:55 AM on 04/12/2012
i am voting for the bnp candidate