Lord Ashdown: 'Email Snooping Plans Breach Coalition Agreement'

Posted: 12/04/2012 10:36 Updated: 12/04/2012 13:22

Plans to expand the powers of the intelligence agencies to spy on emails and phone calls would break the coalition agreement, former Lib Dem leader Lord Ashdown has said.

Under legislation expected in next month's Queen's Speech, internet companies will be instructed to install hardware enabling GCHQ - the government's electronic "listening" agency - to examine "on demand" any phone call made, text message and email sent, and website accessed in "real time" without a warrant.

A previous attempt to introduce a similar law was abandoned by the former Labour government in 2006 in the face of fierce opposition from the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats, as well as civil liberties groups.

Internal coalition tensions over the plans were exposed this week after David Cameron said Nick Clegg as well as other senior Lib Dems had been present when the plans were agreed on.

However Clegg said his party would only support the measures if safeguards ensured civil liberties were protected.

Writing in The Times on Thursday, Lord Ashdown said the plans were more suited to regimes such as China, Russia or "some South American dictatorship" rather than Britain, and if enacted they would breach the coalition agreement signed by the Lib Dems and Tories that forms the basis of their power-sharing agreement.

"Liberals accept, subject to safeguards decided by parliament, that the government has a right to intercept the private communications of its citizens where it is necessary for national security and in the pursuit of serious crime, and that these powers should keep pace with the development of communications," he said.

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"Any extension of these powers should be strictly proportionate to the threat. That is why we opposed the Labour Government when it tried to establish a central database in 2008.

"We have always resisted a ‘fishing trip’ approach by the security services, where they seek the right to gather information on innocent citizens merely on the ground that there may be some among them who are committing serious crime.

"The government’s new proposals to extend the retention of e-mail, social media, websites and internet phone records breach these basic principles; they are disproportionate and seek a generalised extension of state monitoring that applies to everyone, rather than to individuals."

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Lord Ashdown said it was a basic right as "free citizens" to be able to "talk to whom we wish, when we wish and wherever we wish without the state knowing about it, unless there is good cause for it to do so".

"It is not just the content of our communication that is private. It is the fact that it occurred at all, when and for how long," he said.

"The 'content' cannot be separated from the context. For this reason it is difficult to see how these proposals do not run counter to the coalition agreement, which states: 'We will end the storage of e-mail and internet records without good reason'."

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In early 2002 the government amended the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) to allow much greater access to people's phone and email records.

The changes were the forerunner to what's being proposed now. Those changes a decade ago allowed governments to know who was emailing each other, or ringing or texting each other, but stopped short of routinely accessing the content of those communications.

Dropping that safeguard could be among the changes being proposed now.
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04:11 on 13/04/2012
Sometime we bolt the door to our house so hard that in cases of emergency we are unable to get out of the house within safe time. The irony is what we have deviced to protect our privacy and sfety may be responsible for our death.

Our house is our castle even the rodents have bolt holes as safety nets against invasion by carnivores .
The children of the UK household play with gun powder, ignition devices and petrol they even have philosophical toys called fanaticism,religion,technology and other vices.
Richard Britton
British Socialist Global Realist
22:21 on 12/04/2012
Time to break the Coalition and call an election. Step away from the fascist Tory agenda, move back to the centre and work with Labour to help the bottom half of society

Come on Paddy, get your Party out of this Coalition Now!

Labour - Liberals together!

Fancy it Paddy?
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22:31 on 12/04/2012
Richard'...are you sure?...After what these lot have done'..Colluding with the Enemy' against our NHS'Tuition Fees'..etc...I might have thought it would be a good idea before'...But I don't think I could ever trust The LibDumbs' after their treatery....But I do agree about breaking this coalition....Bring it on....
Richard Britton
British Socialist Global Realist
22:49 on 12/04/2012
The Lib Dems could break this coalition tomorrow

I think they could gain great capital by saying "look, this government is pants, let's have another election and let's work out a new plan that helps the majority"

If they did that and laid out some policies that do that they might get some credit from the electorate. Sticking where they are is dooming them to decades in the doldrums and never again in power

But I agree they are not to be trusted at the moment.

Come on Dems - call an election!!
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16:05 on 12/04/2012
"Liberals accept, subject to safeguards decided by parliament, that the government has a right to intercept the private communications of its citizens where it is necessary for national security and in the pursuit of serious crime, and that these powers should keep pace with the development of communications."

Will a reciprocal arrangement that the citizens will have a right to intercept the private communications of its government be put in place? Or will the security services just be at liberty to eavesdrop on EVERYBODY? I think we could probably list the exceptions.
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22:35 on 12/04/2012
Good Point'...But I fear any reciprocal arrandement wouldn't be forthcoming..
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14:56 on 12/04/2012
Paddy always did know how to turn up to a party once it had finished. To say this law is the most gross breech of our presumed privacy rights, I'd like to know where all the critics are, because a few fusties in the Lords doesn't cut it. It seems as if the whole of the commons is behind this plan, It's hard to find a vocal critic. What are labour playing at? This is the kind of thing you jump on and don't let go off. I suspect they would do the same in govt hence their tiny whimpers of opposition.
13:50 on 12/04/2012
I can visualise "Camoron" pulling on his jackboots!!. What else can we expect?
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13:03 on 12/04/2012
"Email Snooping Plans Breach Coalition Agreement"
Maybe. But factor this into that realisation. Once in place there may be no further requirement for a coalition.

"A previous attempt to introduce a similar law was abandoned by the former Labour government"
Too soon and too obvious. But this time…

"Clegg said his party would only support the measures if safeguards ensured civil liberties were protected."
Like the absolute assurance personified by a politician’s promise perhaps?

"the plans were more suited to regimes such as China, Russia or "
the increasingly authoritarian American regime.

"We have always resisted a ‘fishing trip’ approach"
On The Fly Hacking, by J. Rupert Heartless.

"the right to gather information on innocent citizens"
or political opponents, or newspaper reporters, or members of the constabulary... The list is endless, unlike democracy and freedom.

"unless there is good cause for it to do so"
Such as ensuring its own political survival at the expense of the people?
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11:46 on 12/04/2012
Sorry lord paddy, you let dame Shirley push though the NHS reforms even though there was not a risk report. You let duty PM run away from his promise that there will be no uni fee rises.
You have used the we got to get down the debit, Tory’s and your added thoughts has added to the debt
You sir and the Tory’s are making my mother pay more tax at 84 years old, and she has worked in the NHS all her life, also 40 years was worked with the mental people.
13:40 on 12/04/2012
Seems the mental people are getting their own back.

Sure seems to me the coalition are mental ...that is.

I suppose Ashdown has no influence these days, otherwise he may be attempting to get Clegg to cross the floor in the House. I will not hold my breath for fear of suffocating.