Bad Teachers Should Be Paid Less Than 'Good' Colleagues Claim MPs

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Bad teachers should be paid less, claim MPs

Teachers who are deemed to be under-performing should be paid less than their 'better' collegaues, under new proposals from MPs.

Teachers adding the most to pupil's performance should be financially rewarded, the Commons Education Select Committee said.

In a new report, the influential committee examined the best ways of recruiting and retaining the best teachers.

Evidence has shown that very good teachers boost pupils' grades and make a significant difference to their students' future earnings, it said.

The report calls for the DfE to develop plans for a pay system which rewards teachers who add the greatest value to pupil performance.

"We acknowledge the potential political and practical difficulties in introducing such a system, but the comparative impact of an outstanding teacher is so great that we believe such difficulties must be overcome," it says.

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But Christine Blower, general secretary of the National Union of Teachers (NUT), said: "Payment by results is total nonsense. Children are not tins of beans and schools are not factory production lines. Successful schools rely on a collegiate approach and team working.

"Performance-related pay (PRP) is not only inappropriate but also divisive. Children and young people differ and class intakes differ from year to year, making it impossible to measure progress in simplistic terms.

"PRP will create even more difficulties for schools facing the most challenges because teachers will realise that they will get no thanks for teaching their students but will get more money by going elsewhere."

The report also proposes teenagers be put in charge of lessons to encourage them to train as teachers.

"Teaching taster classes" should be offered to sixth-formers and undergraduates to show them the benefits of a career in the profession, the committee said.

It also called for would-be teachers to be observed in the classroom before they are offered a training place to check their suitability for the job.

"Our evidence was clear that teacher quality cannot be fully established without observing a candidate actually teach," the report says.

The MPs backed ministers' plans to toughen up the literacy and numeracy tests taken by trainee teachers but suggested caution over the introduction of a test of candidates' personal skills.

The committee said it welcomed the idea but called for the Department for Education to publish details of what the test might include and keep it under close review.

It raised concerns about the government's move to use a potential teacher's degree class to determine whether or not they get a bursary to train.

Under the Government's plans, anyone with a third-class degree will not be eligible for funding. But the committee said that the bursary scheme alone will not attract more people into teaching.

"Whilst bursaries will help to attract people with strong academic records, greater effort is also needed to identify which subset of these also possess the additional personal qualities that will make them well-suited to teaching," the report says.

It also backed ministers' plans to create "teaching schools" to train teachers.

While it acknowledged that these schools will be expected to work with universities, the committee warned against any reduction of universities' role in teacher training which would bring "considerable demerits".

The report suggests the creation of a National Teacher Sabbatical Scholarship scheme to allow outstanding teachers to take time out of the classroom to work in a different school, undertake research or refresh their subject knowledge.

It echoes a suggestion made by Ofsted chief inspector Sir Michael Wilshaw, who said in November that good teachers who suffer "burnout" should be given time off.

It also called for the government to develop plans for a new "College of Teaching", a professional body modelled along the lines of Royal College or chartered institutes seen in other professions.

Committee chairman Graham Stuart said: "It's crucial that we have an educational system which celebrates great teachers, keeps more of them in the classroom, supports their development and gives them greater status and reward."

Schools Minister Nick Gibb said: "As all the evidence from around the world shows, nothing is more important for raising standards in our schools than ensuring that we have more great teachers.

"Although the quality of our teachers is very high, many top graduates who could make a huge difference to children's education are choosing other professions. This report supports the Government's strategy for teacher recruitment as being appropriately focused on attracting top graduates into the profession and giving them outstanding training."

A DfE spokesman said the Teaching Agency has launched a School Experience Programme for would-be maths and science teachers.

Brian Lightman, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), said: "This is a welcome report which highlights the difference good teachers make to the life chances of young people and the importance of doing everything we can to attract and retain the highest calibre of graduates.

In its thorough investigation of the factors which will enable this to happen, the select committee has made a valuable contribution to future policy development.

"The emphasis on continuing professional development, including the proposal for sabbatical scholarships, the recommendation for a national, high-level continuous professional development (CPD) strategy and, eventually, an entitlement to CPD, will all be warmly welcomed by school and college leaders.

"Teacher tasters for sixth-formers and undergraduates could be useful for spotting potential if they are managed carefully."

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10:09 AM on 05/08/2012
How come bad teachers are paid anything? 'Bad" implies they could also be doing harm. There needs to be more accountability for teaching standards, which unfortunately is resisted by the unions. Good teaching on the other hand is one of the most important skills employed in society. We should value teaching more and give teachers the support they deserve. http://www.silverlinksnetwork.com/news-a-politics/41-education-standards
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Martin Goff
05:41 PM on 05/02/2012
Maybe if Politican's would first propose that "bad politicans' get paid less, it would be more paletable! So who decides who the "bad teachers" are? What if one teacher is lucky enough to have students who's parents give a crap and another has kids from a screwed up part of town--how do you then measure performance??? Just another politican blowing his horn.
04:30 PM on 05/02/2012
If teacher is bad, then school must to work on how to improve his performance. But if u'r bad teacher how u can get teacher certificate?
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mrluckyman
01:28 PM on 05/02/2012
Bad teachers shouldnt be employed....
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fieryat41
07:23 PM on 05/01/2012
Bad teachers should be fired!
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Norman Mitchison
03:26 PM on 05/01/2012
And if bad MPs were paid less the National Deficit would plummet. Start with Squeaker Bercow.....
03:23 PM on 05/01/2012
So should Bad MPs be paid less and there are enough of them about.!!!!!!
03:06 PM on 05/01/2012
how can you tell if a teacher is bad or they just have classes of pupils who are not interested, if they want to cut pay to bad teachers, then they should cut pay to bad mps, then no mp would get full wages. another stupid idea from the we dont have a clue goverment
majdf18148
I have nothing to declare but my curiosity
03:03 PM on 05/01/2012
If this edict was applied expotentially across the public sector we would rid ourselves of tens of thousands of "bad workers" overnight. Why single teachers out? What about MPs, doctors, nurses, council staff, fat cat chief execs, the list could be endless. We would do better ensuring teachers leaving teacher training colleges are properly trained and motivated and then are able to begin their teaching career in a school that is adequately resourced, well managed and run for the benefits of the pupils who want to learn.
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mmartini54
Roll on 2015!
09:37 PM on 05/01/2012
Agree entirely, and we also need to rid education of the monkey that's been clinging to it's back since the mid 80s - meddling politicians and their endless top down "initiatives".
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02:48 PM on 05/01/2012
So how do we determine bad teachers only on exam performances? Or providing society will well adjusted citizens
02:47 PM on 05/01/2012
Bad as determined by who, Ofsted ?. They only take a snapshot of performance. The Head maybe? but what if the Head simply takes a dislike to a teacher. Is this another Gove distraction idea?
02:35 PM on 05/01/2012
I say apply the same principal to bad MP's it would save the taxpayer a fortune.
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fredro
02:17 PM on 05/01/2012
The poll is meaningless. If you've already decided X is 'a bad teacher', the questions might have some point. But determining 'good' and 'bad' is the $64k question. I have had SUPERB students who made my job as a lecturer a joy and child's play: we all benefited from the exercise. On other occasions, I metaphorically ploughed through mud with bad students, and the reverse was true. Further, I suffered under bad management (e.g. carelessly-timetabled classes cumulatively exhausting students; mutually-antagonistic students being forced to work together), and got criticism more due to the management. Head teachers, deputies, and senior teachers are not always perfect; but it's 'the infantry' that gets the brickbats. As an afterthought: perhaps 'bad' MPs, Ministers, and Prime Ministers should be paid less? We all know who they are....
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mickbono
huff is crap
02:02 PM on 05/01/2012
what is it with these MP`s trying to slash the wages of anyone outside london & slashing everyones benefit .wont they be happy unless we are back in workhouses
08:43 PM on 05/01/2012
mps dont need wages they live of fiddled expenses and get away with it
01:50 PM on 05/01/2012
Can you judge a good teacher just by grades. Surly there are many other factors that should be taken into consideration. How is it fair if one teacher gets a class full of poorly behaved kids and one gets a class full of well behaved kids. How can you compare?
Teaching is more than just an exam factory. Some teachers give up weekends and holidays to take trips out. Others don't.