Scottish Independence Would Damage UK Influence, Says William Hague

PA/The Huffington Post UK  |  Posted: 1/05/2012 10:16 Updated: 1/05/2012 10:16

Scottish independence would damage the United Kingdom's influence in international security decisions, William Hague warned today.

The Foreign Secretary told MPs and peers that breaking away would have "strategic and security implications" for each of the four nations.

He said Scotland would suffer most by terminating its links with the "most capable" diplomatic network on earth.

The potential problems have been discussed at length twice in recent months by the whole Cabinet, he told the joint committee on national security strategy.

He added: "It would be damaging to some extent, it's hard to define that extent, to the ability of all the component parts of the United Kingdom, including that part that was no longer in the United Kingdom, to achieve the enhanced or maintained influence I'm talking about.

"It would be particularly damaging to the part of the country that was no longer part of the United Kingdom because here we are with that permanent membership of the (UN) Security Council, with 260 diplomatic posts around the world, one of the largest and most capable diplomatic networks on earth and they would be excluding themselves from that.

"Of course it would have strategic and security implications for the whole of the UK but I think it would be particularly damaging for Scotland."

FOLLOW UK POLITICS

Scottish independence would damage the United Kingdom's influence in international security decisions, William Hague warned today. The Foreign Secretary told MPs and peers that breaking away would ...
Scottish independence would damage the United Kingdom's influence in international security decisions, William Hague warned today. The Foreign Secretary told MPs and peers that breaking away would ...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 42
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Post Comment Preview Comment
To reply to a Comment: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to.
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
SGillLondonUK
DEMOCRACY DOES NOT EXIST.
22:56 on 07/05/2012
Alex Salmond has said that in the event of another economic crisis like the one we just had, then scotland would ask the Bank of England for a Bailout. it seems the snp are trying to have their cake and eat it
photo
hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
09:40 on 08/05/2012
Ermm, where did he say that?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
SGillLondonUK
DEMOCRACY DOES NOT EXIST.
18:54 on 02/05/2012
Let Scotland do what its residents want. Security would be no problem, some sort of well-named alliance could be formed, like the Celtic Alliance by the regional four - England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. The present-day Union-Jack would cease, but the four independent flags of each would fly! And money woes? Not in Scotland! There's nary a group of people as thrifty as the Scots.
10:16 on 02/05/2012
Yes, because you would have a lot less money to play with.
14:46 on 01/05/2012
"Scottish Independence Would Damage UK Influence, Says William Hague"

I wish I was as clever as Willy.
14:17 on 01/05/2012
Yes we keep our nuclear subs in Scotland, but I would have thought that William Hague is more of a threat to national security than Scotland being independent. Jersey has it's own parliament, but they are not in the EU, so there is room for all sorts of arrangements.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Altern8
14:02 on 01/05/2012
1) I feel loyal to all of Britain including Scotland and independence would force a heartbreaking choice on many of us.
2) Rump UK would be a smaller, less influential country: we'd be pushed around by France and Germany much more and we'd have to take it. P*ssant little countries don't matter.
3) It would mean changing the Union flag too.
photo
hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
15:57 on 01/05/2012
1. Why? Are you based in Scotland?
2. Well, five million or so less voters would have you being pushed around? But you've got nukes and a government that like to send soldiers to fight wars for no reason! How can they push you around?
3. Why? It's only colours. Keep it!
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
13:50 on 01/05/2012
It would be a shame if we were to wake up with a hangover to discover that we don't have what the Nats have promised us.
photo
hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
15:51 on 01/05/2012
The National Party has promised us our own government. Do you REALLY need to be dependent ALL your life?
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
18:21 on 01/05/2012
We have our own government.
11:44 on 01/05/2012
Scotland has issues on Oil reserves. OK let them take all they can manage becuase they'll need it in the long run.
new alliances and political union will be need to be made with Eurpoean counterparts and eventually swallowed up into the belly of the EU.
UNdemocratically elected quangoes will be dictating everything you do the only buffer Scotland has had so far is the UK. This will cease and Scotland will be left naked to the political monster of Europe.
Scotland can max their devolution without the full divorce.I think the Divorce settlement & immediate quick gain riches is all that the current Scottish nationalists can peddle. What happens in 25-30 years when all the oil has gone?
England,Wales have 5 trillion tonnes of mineable Coal 200+ years underground which can be used in exactly the same way as OIL. England & Wales & Northern Ireland have vast underground self replenishing Aquafers which can supply all water needs (if theyre managed properly) the list can go on. The divorce isn't one way and if Scotland thinks it can get one up on the English then theyre sadly mistaken. Yes maybe in the short term,Scotland will have the upper hand and yes, maybe England will rue the day we let Scotland go.This reactive deppression from seperation will only be temporary and when the reality bites after the nationalists have sobered up from their demented fervour for Independance at all costs,then they may well be the ones to rue the day.
13:46 on 01/05/2012
I liked that one,could not have put it better.
photo
hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
15:55 on 01/05/2012
With all that soothsaying, you'll surely know the numbers tonight, won't you?
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
11:17 on 01/05/2012
Scotsmen are notoriously cost conscious, so, instead of gobbing off about things that cannot be quantified why don't you tell us how much indepence is going to cost us?
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
21:02 on 01/05/2012
You maybe didn't notice Mickey, but the one "gobbing off," here is an Britnat Tory toff, not a Scottish National Party member. Maybe you could ask him how much Scotland's independence would disadvantage the rumpUK over the first 10 years? I think, if he was to get honest (daft notion I know) he would tell you "not a heck of a lot." Losing the permanent seat on the UN Security Council is a nice ego-massage for Westminster, but it doesn't pay any of the UK's enormous debt, it doesn't provide education or health services for a single soul. All it does is stroke the establishment ego. What use is that? None at all.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
23:07 on 01/05/2012
It will save Scotland a fortune.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
10:20 on 03/05/2012
Hahaha! I love your optimism!

Independence is looking more and more like a leap of faith. The prospect for keeping the pound opens the door for the Bank of England to treat Scotland the same way the ECB treats Greece. Scotland would be at the mercy of of interest rates set in London causing mortgages to soar and our economy would effectively be controlled south of the border. Christopher Allsopp, a former member of the Bank of England, has said it is highly doubtful that the Bank of England would be willing to bail out failed Scottish banks. The pitfalls of independence are becoming clearer every day.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
11:14 on 01/05/2012
Being on the top table at the UN s only a prestigious position we don’t have to be there. Other countries cope like Denmark and Finland that have a similar population to Scotland.

I can see in the future though, that Europe will have one head at the top table and France and the UK will have to give way to it.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
SGillLondonUK
DEMOCRACY DOES NOT EXIST.
23:00 on 07/05/2012
Yes but unlike Denmark, the SNP seem quite willing to join the Euro. Scotland will not be able to use the pound sterling. And whilst you may have a point about the prestige of the UN, Scotland will rely on good relations with other countries including the UK
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Blockem1
When will our politicians start putting policies
11:01 on 01/05/2012
This from some one that thinks it was ok to share a room with his advisor! Damaging for Scotland what utter rubbish , what he is saying is that if they with their most capable diplomatic network ( you have got to be joking) won't be sharing secrets anymore . What is it they have against a democratic peace loving country country deciding they want their independence . When they are coming up with this ridiculous statement it clearly shows how worried they are .
10:48 on 01/05/2012
Continuing that argument leads to the logical conclusion that the United Kingdom should become the 51st state of the USA.
10:37 on 01/05/2012
Utter Tosh - it is precisely BECAUSE the UK behaves like a bully around the world that it has become a target for terrorists. It is unlikely that any of the successor states of the UK would have a permanent seat on the UN security council, and that is what concerns the imperialist toffs running the country.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
SGillLondonUK
DEMOCRACY DOES NOT EXIST.
23:03 on 07/05/2012
Well how would scotland differ? are you planning to leave nato, the EU? all nato countries are potential targets of terroris
photo
hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
10:32 on 01/05/2012
Well, since we have to pay our percentage of the bills, we also have to gain a percentage of embassies. As for security, is he really suggesting that the rUK can't defend itself without Scotland? We know that Scottish soldiers have been cannon fodder for years, but to hear a Westminster politician admit it? Wow!

As for permanent membership, as the UK is the permanent member, will the rUK succeed to the seat or will Scotland? Will anybody?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
SGillLondonUK
DEMOCRACY DOES NOT EXIST.
23:08 on 07/05/2012
Share of the Bills, what about the cost of bailing out the RBS? who pays for that?
photo
hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
09:03 on 08/05/2012
The countries where the accounts are held? Who paid for the Halifax, Northern Rock?
10:31 on 01/05/2012
Religion wars.