Grooming Case: Trevor Phillips Says Race Was A Factor In Rochdale Sex Gang

Posted: 13/05/2012 14:21 Updated: 13/05/2012 14:31

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It is "fatuous" to claim ethnicity was not a factor in the Rochdale sexual grooming case, the head of the equalities watchdog said on Sunday.

Equality and Human Rights Commission chief Trevor Phillips, said the fact that the men convicted were Asian and their victims white could not be ignored.

He said it would be a national scandal if it turned out the authorities had failed to intervene to protect the children because of fears that it would lead to the "demonisation" of the Asian community.

Last week a gang of nine Asian men were found guilty of plying with alcohol and cigarettes before being shared by the group for sex.

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Phillips told BBC1's The Andrew Marr Show: "Anybody who says that the fact that most of the men are Asian and most of the children are white is not relevant - that's just fatuous.

"These are closed communities essentially and I worry that in these communities there are people who knew what was going on and didn't say anything, either because they're frightened or because they're so separated from the rest of the communities they think 'Oh, that's just how white people let their children carry on. We don't need to do anything.'"

He warned that if it came out that social services turned a blind eye to the abuse it would cause a "national scandal".

"If anybody in any of the agencies that are supposed to be caring for these children - schools, social services and so on - took the view that being aggressively interventionalist to save these children would lead to the demonisation of some group because of the ethnicity ... then it is a national scandal and something that would need to be dealt with urgently," he said.

Since the abuse case, education secretary Michael Gove has ordered an investigation on into the sexual exploitation of children to be accelerated, telling Sky News that he wanted recommendations "within a month" on how to ensure that children in homes are kept safe from "this sort of disgusting activity."

Among the directives is to ensure that “issues of ethnicity” are not ignored.

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Vapula
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01:24 AM on 05/14/2012
When white people are on the end of discrimination the authorities are more than willing to dismiss or minimize any suggestion of racism. That does not promote harmony or further race relations it merely exacerbates the already existing tensions and creates resentments. Something that neanderthal coppers are unlikely to appreciate.
07:26 PM on 05/13/2012
All factors need to be addressed in order to protect the victims, whether it is race, accessibility, vulnerability or turning a blind eye. If these men had an opportunity to violate girls from their own culture, they would have done, if not already. Incidentally, one of the most influential actors in Indian film, Aamir Khan has had his second talk/documentary show on indian tv. Last week he discussed female infanticide in india and today it was sexual abuse of children. India does talk about controversial issues but there seems to be an impetus of making real change.My point is child sex abuse is a global problem, to deny it would make us just as guilty. We need to make it safe for the victims to come forward and those who could have information regarding crimes within whichever community.
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Mary Mendy
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05:46 PM on 05/13/2012
I think race is a factor, its not the most important factor, but it is. What the Met needs to ask itself is why these men seem to think it is easy to find victims within a certain community, and with the amount of times itsalready happened it sems they can.The Met should do something to prevent things like this happening again. If the asian community is closed open it.
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Laatab
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03:41 PM on 05/13/2012
The term racialism is too broad a brush to be of help in these cases. There are racial elements to it to be sure, quite strong ones, but labeling it a racial crime will cloud other elements that are more or just as important. The fact is that these men, if they didn't live here, but in the land of their fathers, would have been preying on the vulnerable in exactly the same way, except they would probably not form a gang and would probably be more secretive about it. I would suggest that tribalism rather than racialism would explain the dynamics at work here much more accurately.
09:09 PM on 05/13/2012
If you saw the Panorama programme about this you'd have seen the Muslim in the car the police were talking to. To sum up what he said: it's the parents' fault, the men are not to blame, the girls should have been kept up at home by force if necessary.
If these guys were in their native land they wouldn't have done this because the women in those countries are hidden away, they aren't even aloud out without a man with them in some of the more hard-line countries. Secondly the laws are much more severe in those countries. I'm not sure of the exact punishments for this type of thing in Pakistan but I'd wager it's rather more severe than insipid Britain.

I think you underestimate how far apart the societies of the world are. Multiculturalism is a complete nonsense, it's never worked in any country, even slight differences (look at Ireland for example) can cause major strife. The idea that everyone and anyone can come here and 'we'll all just get along' is utterly ridiculous.
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Laatab
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03:22 AM on 05/14/2012
Broadly speaking you say nothing I would disagree with. I guess the only point of centention would be that in countries where the practice of women hidden away and obsessively controlled does not curb a predatory abuser. It just means the victim is more likely to be closer to home. They also blame the victim as much if not more than the perpetrator which aids the abuser no end.
I agree that multiculturism is a failed excercise but we cant turn back the clock. I guess it's high time we said to these communities either grow up or go home.
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03:34 PM on 05/13/2012
At LAST! Someone who isn't afraid of speaking common sense because it might be taken as racist. I must admit, I really didn't expect it to be Trevor Phillips! Pleasantly suprised :-)
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Ben Wilson
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02:41 PM on 05/13/2012
It's a different kind of prejudice to what we have got used to associating racism with. It's not clear it's a deep seated irrational hatred, it's more like a dehumanisation process on ideologcial terms. The girls were cattle, very much in the way that the white colonialist would treat his slaves on his plantation, such as that infamous guy who would let his friends sleep with who ever they like. It's not racism or prejudice like we know it today, it is some far more primal and much worse.
12:33 AM on 05/14/2012
"It's not racism or prejudice like we know it today, it is some far more primal and much worse." Ben Wilson

Yes, but let's not name what it is. We wouldn't want to offend the sensibilities of certain unnamed "communities," do we? Let's keep beating around the bush and use euphemisms. And above all, never never use the "I" word or the "M" word.
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Ben Wilson
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06:21 AM on 05/14/2012
It's a fair point, and I don't want to seem like I'm afraid to point out that if it wasn't for Islam. After all, as we were all growing up and learning from the civil rights movement, Islamic countries were only just getting around to stopping slavery, with the last country banning it in 1982. This incident has to be connected with Islamic slavery mentalitites.