Baroness Warsi: Minority Of Pakistani Men Think White Girls Are 'Fair Game' For Sex Abuse

Posted: Updated: 18/05/2012 13:23

Some Pakistani men think white girls are "fair game" for sexual abuse, according to the chair of the Conservative Party Baroness Warsi.

The peer, whose parents are from Pakistan and is the UK's most senior Muslim politician, made the comments during an interview with the Evening Standard in the wake of the Rochdale sexual grooming case.

“There is a small minority of Pakistani men who believe that white girls are fair game,” she told the paper. “And we have to be prepared to say that. You can only start solving a problem if you acknowledge it first.

“This small minority who see women as second class citizens, and white women probably as third class citizens."

It follows last week's conviction of nine men, eight of whom were Pakistani and one man who was from Afghanistan, who were sentenced as a separate investigation, after Liverpool court heard they abused girls as young as 13.

One of their victims had told police officers that she was being abused more than four years previously.

The conviction of the men kick started a fiery polemic, after presiding Judge Gerald Clifton told the defendants: "One of the factors leading to that was the fact that they were not part of your community or religion."

According to the paper Baroness Warsi was encouraged to speak on the issue by her father.

Trevor Philips, the chair of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, has said attempts to ignore the race of the men convicted of sexual exploitation in Rochdale are 'fatuous' and worrying.

Philips said that the cultural background of the Asian men involved in the sexual grooming, abuse and rape of young girls in Rochdale and Oldham was a factor in determining the crimes they committed and should not be ignored.

However the claim that race was a factor in the crime has been disputed by some.

Nazir Afzal, the head of the CPS in the North West and the man responsible for deciding to prosecute the sex gang said that it was not a matter of race.

"All of these people had one thing in common, they were all men. Most of them were taxi drivers but nobody is talking about the fact that this is an issue for the taxi driver communities," he said.

The Independent Police Commission is currently conducting an internal inquiry into why the abuse went un-prosecuted in 2008.

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Some Pakistani men think white girls are "fair game" for sexual abuse, according to the chair of the Conservative Party Baroness Warsi. The peer, whose parents are from Pakistan and is the UK's mos...
Some Pakistani men think white girls are "fair game" for sexual abuse, according to the chair of the Conservative Party Baroness Warsi. The peer, whose parents are from Pakistan and is the UK's mos...
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21:34 on 21/05/2012
Oddly I find myself agreeing with Sayeeda Warsi on one point, and it's this. If this pernicious behaviour isn't exposed and stamped out fast, then the Far Right are going to have a 'field day'! If not this then the 'body politic' UK will definitely lurch to the Right..
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OokMckook
23:30 on 21/05/2012
That is the very problem though most of the left refuse to deal with this.

Vaz/Abbott screaming racism whenever a non asian attempts to address the issue (look at ann cryer for example)

UAF/HNH actively attacking everyone as if they are BNP/EDL members for attempting to discuss the issue.

The problem is the far left has screamed racism/islamophobia so loudly at any debate on immigration/grooming/crime that unless you have the right skin color your scared to talk about it , Which as Warsi has picked up will lead to people following the right who keep trying to address it albeit by the wrong manner ( last few years , Ann cryer was a labour mp and was hounded by Abbott , Vaz and co when she raised the issue to the point she left labour , Nick Griffin approached it and according to what i can find on google was jailed for race hate crime for trying to raise this(as said all i could find on google)

And then to add fuel to the fire is the fact as a whole the media do try to hide asian crime in the name of "community cohesion" Look at Charlene Downes , Hidden from the main media (and apart from her death another grooming case), Rhea page reported in the rages but not the main media. Yet Huntly and other sickos are automatically reported on.
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lilkitten22
Be the change that you wish to see in the world
23:25 on 20/05/2012
All races are capable of abusing, not just Pakistani men that this woman says.
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Ben Wilson
Might as well laugh while you still can.
17:42 on 20/05/2012
When people get upset by the 'race factor' they seem to look way too much into it. My understanding of the situation is that it's not about picking on white girls as much as it is about them being afraid to pick on muslim girls. Faith discrimination rather than race discrimination. In a sick way it is guilt reduction 'well at least they aren't muslim' 'we know it's wrong but at least we don't do it to our own'
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04:11 on 21/05/2012
Apparently, it's both.  I just did a Google search and this is a fairly common result.
13:11 on 20/05/2012
Baroness Warsi, with her background could be more specific.The precise problem is the following. The culprits are almost all of Panjabi background who are descendants of the poor small holders dispossessed in the partition of India. These people were sent into Pakistan where there was very little land available to continue their subsistance farming and therefore they were not absorbed easily into Pakistani society. When the mills in northern England were in trouble they needed cheap labour to keep them running, especially the night shifts.
These Panjabis were then allowed in their thousands to come to Britain to try to keep the textile industry alive. They were losing their market share to India and to some extent Pakistan, so it is quite ironical. Successive British governments therefore allowed this problem created by the botched partition of India to be parachuted lock,stock and barrel into northern England. This is specifically the problem, not Muslims in general. How you sort it out is another matter......
04:04 on 21/05/2012
That's a smear. Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs aren't known for doing this stuff. Just Muslims.

In fact, Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs have complained about Muslims trying to rape their kids too, both in the UK and South Asia.
concodtob
16 stone athlete and intellectual
19:09 on 19/05/2012
OH dear, it seems cultural enrichment is turning into cultural impoverishment.
18:05 on 19/05/2012
Sorry but Warsi is only paying lip service, trying to gain votes. She is an egotistical wannabe who even though she has the title of Baroness (god knows how) she is nowhere near a real one.
She is so full of herself, Can you imagine her as prime minister, us Brits would be the ones deported to places like Pakistan etc and the doors opened even more ,if that is possible for all her kind to come here.
21:38 on 20/05/2012
weren't the barons originally of norman extraction?And as i have norman ancestry,why is she a baroness and i not a baron?
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16:59 on 19/05/2012
Don't always agree with her, but at last she is confronting what was clearly the elephant in the room and regrettably it must fall to a woman whose origins are Pakistani to be able to speak about it. Most other people would risk be labelled racist.
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degsy
some men are wise...and some are otherwise
00:59 on 20/05/2012
Warsi is only confronting these issues now because the choice to remain quite has been removed, if she wishes to remain in politics she must break her silence, which she has held for to long on these matters
16:31 on 19/05/2012
If they were in theamerican south messing with white women, they would not be treated well
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sean beamer
"If society fits you comfortably enough, you call
20:47 on 19/05/2012
hmmmm dont bet on it...american men too treat their women like dirt ...not all...not everywhere...but it happens or has happened in every culture...including 'english' watch 'upstairs downstairs' you will get my meaning !!
concodtob
16 stone athlete and intellectual
22:14 on 19/05/2012
This story is about Pakistani/Muslim men Targeting under-age white girls and has been described by Pakistani/Muslim community leaders as racially motivated. You are on the wrong page.
04:06 on 21/05/2012
No they don't. They aren't spineless.
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Galician
Keep calm and carry on
14:21 on 19/05/2012
What would happen if a British did something equivalent in Pakistan?
14:35 on 19/05/2012
OH BOY OH BOY. there would be WAR! they would go completely insane with a psychotic fervour for revenge! yet us soft touched brainwashed politically correct imbeciles do nothing? you vote in these incompetent lassiaiz faire so calle politicians,you get what you deserve.
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sean beamer
"If society fits you comfortably enough, you call
20:48 on 19/05/2012
you are a brit patriot...lolz.....really ?you sound more like a NF candidate !!
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degsy
some men are wise...and some are otherwise
14:51 on 19/05/2012
You would not get out alive
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Galician
Keep calm and carry on
15:22 on 19/05/2012
I completely agree with you, so what are we doing with this "political correctness"?
14:01 on 19/05/2012
There are peodophiles in every community in the UK and through out the world. It's pathetic for the media to marginalise communities and promote hatred by making it as if it is a problem for people of one race or religous background. In this country alone, Christian priests are probably the biggest culprits of child grooming, so should people go round accusing every Christian of being child moleters? the answer is obvious, NO! Overall we have to acknowledge that child grooming is aproblem, so are other human crimes such as pimping and people trafficking etc. For people to deal with these issues everyone of all races and faiths should comm together and fight this together. The media also needs to take responsibility by encouraging unity rather to marginalise certain people and communities, one day it is Christian priests, White middle aged men, then the next day it's Pkistaniy males.
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14:17 on 19/05/2012
No one is accusing All Pakistani males. If you think to appease you, we are going to stay silent over the plight of these girls you must be joking. You and others who think like you are obsessed with race, and silencing people for the sake of being politically correct, these girls were ignored long enough, so the abuse continued, say it as it is, stop with the touchy feely bulls##t.
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