Atheists are angry, twitching creatures. When faced with the godly they foam at the mouth, wailing and gnashing their teeth. Their sense of moral and intellectual superiority is a fragile thing, easily bruised. They deserve our pity, not our scorn.
This, at least, is the way in which prominent figures in the so-called "New Atheism" movement have been characterised in certain sections of the media. Commentators delight in branding the likes of Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett and A. C. Grayling as 'angry' or 'cantankerous' or, worst of all, 'fundamentalist atheist', an oxymoron that betrays a basic misunderstanding of both fundamentalism and atheism.
This is hardly surprising. When backed into a corner, the argumentum ad hominem seems an attractive escape route, even if it involves the imputation of anger where none exists, or the misinterpretation of strong rhetoric as indicative of a lack of objectivity. We saw this in Alom Shaha's review of Dawkins's two-part documentary series The Root of All Evil? for Channel 4, in which Shaha claimed that Dawkins "seems to have chosen a deliberately condescending, patronising and aggressive approach, unnecessarily re-enforcing the notion that scientists are arrogant bigots themselves".
This is a fashionable thing to say, but it doesn't bear much relation to the facts. The worst you can say of Dawkins in these programmes is that he occasionally appears to lose patience with his interviewees (a tendency he has since learned to curb). Aggression can only really be claimed if the dictionary definition is abandoned. Dawkins's rhetoric is no more acerbic than one hears in parliamentary debates, and yet to my knowledge nobody has suggested to Ed Miliband that he should go easy on the invective when deriding Tory policy. Shaha elsewhere berates "the 'angry atheist' brigade". This is another phantom, a projection. Like the 'PC brigade', it only really exists in the minds of the people who deploy the phrase.
It's not a particularly new technique. Take the comic book tracts of Jack T. Chick, an American evangelist who seems to delight in hatemongering in the name of Christ (I was first introduced to his work as a child and, as a devout Catholic, was rather taken aback by the description of the Vatican as the "Mother of Abominations"). Chick's representation of scientists is unflattering to say the least. In one tract, entitled Big Daddy?, we see a lecture in evolutionary biology interrupted by a polite, young Christian student. When the student mentions the Biblical account of the Earth's creation, the lecturer is depicted as visibly sweating and screams the words: "HOLD IT YOU FANATIC!! I could have you jailed for that!!" The sheer lack of subtlety is hilarious.
Of course, Chick is an extreme example, and no thoughtful Christian could take him seriously. But the idea of the intransigent, antagonistic scientist is familiar enough, not restricted to the extremists. It is a commonplace perception based on a false characterisation of atheism that has somehow gained credibility. It is a caricature designed to undermine critics of religion so that legitimate questions can be dismissed as 'sneering'. Moreover, it is experientially unsound. I have never seen any of the 'New Atheists' react with such ferocity. Even when faced with an intellect as unrefined as Bill O'Reilly's, Dawkins manages to keep his cool. And that's quite an accomplishment.
Leaving aside the possibility that, in some cases, anger is a legitimate response (as posited by Greta Christina in her book Why Are You Atheists So Angry?), what interests me is the way in which commentators continue to argue against imaginary foes. A good example is Mehdi Hasan's recent article for The Huffington Post UK, which doesn't so much attack Dawkins as it does 'Dawkins'.
In his article, Hasan restates a number of common anti-atheist arguments, all of which have been successfully rebutted innumerable times by brighter people than me. My concern here is not the obvious weakness of Hasan's arguments, but rather what this article tells us about the misrepresentation of atheists in general. The likes of Christina Odone may call Dawkins a "turkey", and inaccurately describe his views as examples of "prejudice and bigotry", but that's just about the level of sophistication we've come to expect from her. I expect more from Mehdi Hasan.
"I believe in God," he writes. "Shame on me, eh? Faith, in the disdainful eyes of the atheist, is irredeemably irrational; to have faith, as Dawkins put it to me, is to have 'belief in something without evidence'. This, however, is sheer nonsense. Are we seriously expected to believe that the likes of Descartes, Kierkegaard, Hegel, Rousseau, Leibniz and Locke were all unthinking or irrational idiots?"
No, we are not. And no such expectation has been articulated, at least not by Dawkins. Nor has anyone suggested that Hasan should feel "shame" for his beliefs. But what this straw man argument so clearly reveals is a reluctance to engage in the debate properly. Religious positions would be better served if their proponents addressed the actual criticisms, rather than taking a defensive stance against the imagined disdain of those who disagree. Like Robert Frost's drunken cow, they bellow on a knoll against the sky.
Many religious thinkers are happy to concede that faith, by its very definition, is irrational. A dearth of evidence does not pose a problem for faith, it is an inherent corollary of it. And what's so wrong with that? If there are human beings who have no irrational tendencies, I haven't met them. Hasan, however, is loath to make this admission.
What this tells us is that the subjectivity of religious experience can overpower rational instincts in even the sharpest of minds. This is why the religious need to be wary when they participate in this debate. It's clear enough that Hasan wouldn't tolerate such sloppiness in any other realm of discussion. He is fairly damning, for instance, about Sunny Hundal's speculations that the Iranian regime are developing nuclear weapons. On this topic, at least, evidence matters.
But when it comes to religion, Hasan needlessly wrangles over tortuous semantic distinctions between "evidence" and "proof" as a means to circumvent the argument. He affirms that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I can't prove God but you can't disprove him", as though Dawkins hadn't already made the identical point in his bestseller The God Delusion. It is known as the "spectrum of theistic probability", and Dawkins makes it clear that as a scientist he cannot possibly be at the very end of this spectrum as a "strong atheist", but that he occupies the position of the de facto atheist, the belief that there is a "very low probability" of God's existence, "but short of zero".
Dawkins made this very point during a recent interview conducted by Hasan for Al-Jazeera, so it cannot have escaped his attention. Yet in Hasan's recent article it is the imaginary Dawkins who once again takes a beating; he of the frothing mouth and stamping feet who angrily berates the idiocy of his opponents. I'd quite like to meet that man. I'm sure he'd be quite entertaining. Unfortunately, and crucially, he doesn't exist.
The aggressive atheist is not the norm. I fully believe Rabbi David Wolpe when he says he has been bombarded by belligerent emails from non-believers, but the internet is seething with trolls, and these missives can hardly be said to be representative of atheist thought in general. I, for one, have never met a genuinely angry atheist. Should I take it on faith that they exist?
I'm all for having the debate. But let's not have the debate with shadows and ghouls.
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Dawkins, by his unending crusade against a mythical God, has allowed atheism to define his life. He should get out more.
Many atheists live full lives, and only ever suffer the mildest of prejudice - indeed, the topic rarely comes up in conversation, and it is 'theists' who seem most embarassed about their philosophy of life.
Others call themselves humanists, or such positive terms that at least suggest they care, and not just about making others miserable.
If atheists feel the need to 'convert' others; a worthy aim, they do better when they show some respect for their targets. Why bother to claim you want to convert people if you have absolute contempt for them?
Regardless of how 'right' he is, the World is a worse place for his rants, not better.
I'm not saying Dawkins is wrong, in fact he's probably 100% right. It's his arrogance, and his patronizing approach that does nothing to help the victims of bad upbringing, or spread the positive benefits of scientific atheism.
He reinforces the very ignorance he decries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehOppuJKuj8
Profound, subtle & concise!!
There is a huge difference between faith and religion.
Faith is the relationship with whatever God someone believes in through *their* reading of the applicable scriptures.
Religion is a relationship with some bloke telling you what the applicable scriptures mean (to them).
Commandment #1; You shall have no God before me - basically covers this one off.
In other words, YouGod *not* You God.
That last line should read -
You (two way arrow) God *not* You (two way arrow) Religious Leader (two way arrow) God.
For me the possibility of a single all knowing, all seeing, all powerful sentient entity able to design, bring together all the necessary materials, construct, commission all of the existence ( in 7 days!!??) we are aware of is so remotely improbable to make it nonexistence.
As an atheist, I'm pointing that out purely to indicate what you're up against.
You defeat religion by pointing out that anyone religious cannot go to Heaven under Commandment #1.
Seasons Greetings !
Simples ! Job Done ! End Of !
In other words, there is no point debating with militant (?angry) atheists as there is a world of difference between proof and evidence.
The big Bang,is, of course, evidence for a creator, as is the wonderful new information coming from chaos theory. No atheist will ever accept it as proof, because they have decided not to.
"In other words, there is no point debating with militant (?angry) atheists as there is a world of difference between proof and evidence" is not all what he meant. Perhaps you should reread his last sentence
And if there's a world of difference between proof and evidence, your closing remark is contradictory.
In what way is the Big Bang evidence of a creator? Why should we assume a supernatural explanation for this one thing that science hasn't explained?
Prove God and ergo You Destroy Him.
Destroy God, Go to Hell.
Dis-Prove God, you *may*still stand a chance." T1ckl3m0u53'5 Theorem.
You (not *you* as in the poster per se) have a relationship with God, not with someone else's God.
With religion you follow someone else's God (a 'holy man's') because you follow their interpretation of God.
That is because to be religious is to be lazy and negate any personal relationship with God (as in rather leave it up to someone else to tell you what scripture means.)
You have broken commandment #1.
To break any commandment results in you being unable to enter the kingdom of Heaven.
You are lost.
I'm here to save you Religious people !
Go back to your Faith !
Re-engage with your God (whoever that might be) in your own living room, Khazi, wherever and never, ever go to a sermon. You can go to church, but *only* for your own personal discussion with your God. Classify yourself as religious as opposed to following your own interpretation of the scripture of your choice and not only do you waste one day a week, and possibly your money...but also your whole reason for going.
Hope this helps!
Eagleton, Higgs, et al. are simply further examples of the phenomenon I'm describing.
And our above friend hanery 2, has fallen for it too. He is not citing any examples of unreasonably angry or aggressive behaviour by the likes of Dawkins. He is just assuming that Dawkins is being unreasonable because he has heard others say so.
It's no coincidence that people who fall for the unsubstantiated mantra "aggressive atheists" are sympathetic towards religion. For religion owes its very foundations to being able to convince people by simply repeating ideas over and over again without providing evidence for them. Many preachers even get their flock to repeat phrases back to them. Let me hear everyone say "Amen" to that.
I'm an Atheist, I get angry, but I'm not against faith in it's entirity, despite the many contradictions it carries, and I also agree on more debate.
He even used Christianity as an excuse for killing Jews, because of course they killed Jesus... "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." - Hitler, Mein Kamph
Point 24 of the Programme of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, proclaimed by Hitler n Munich, 24 February 1920.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in lonelinessÂ, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross."
Any murder committed by any person acting for or on behalf of any secular state gets attributed to secular atheism regardless of the actual motivation, whereas any equivilant murder by any member acting for or on behalf of any religious state is only begrudingly attributed to religion if the known stated intent of that member was religion regardless of what the method, contemporary evidence or victim demographics tell us about the actual motivation.
Personally I have no problem with others believing in a Supreme Being. I totally get that faith is not a matter of evidence but ineffable inner knowing. i also don't have a problem with people choosing to live their lives according to the precepts of their chosen god. I don't even get particularly upset when people try to persuade me to do the same.
What makes my blood boil is religious types trying to impose their world view on everyone else through legislation. Again I have no problem with them participating in the debate but unlike faith debate should be evidence-based.
If they say marriage equality will undermine hetro-sexual marriage - where is the evidence?
If they say contraception is degrading to women - where is the evidence?
If they say the Lord will provide for all children - where is the evidence?
If they say modest clothing prevents rape - where is the evidence?
If they say global warming isn't happening because God wouldn't let us destroy ourselves - how can you even have a debate?
If they say we shouldn't worry about peace in the Middle East because God is preparing for Armageddon - I'm very angry and very afraid.
Happy?