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Why Roy Is the Wrong Man for the Job

Posted: 26/06/2012 00:00

It was different this time. Expectations were at an all time low and we were left scratching our heads in bemusement as to how a pub team like England qualified for this tournament to stand shoulder to shoulder with giants Sweden, Ukraine and France (ranked 17th, 52nd and 14th respectively).

What an astute decision by the FA to select Hodgson over Redknapp, we were told. We were now the international equivalent of West Brom or Fulham, who he took to the UEFA Cup Final in 2010. We decided we needed a manager who would defend and hope for the best. Maybe we could even 'do a Chelsea' but in all honesty we would have been delighted just to get out of the group.

Except that England arrived in Poland ranked 6th in the world, bettered only by Germany, Spain and the volatile Dutch. This is not just luck and nonsense; it is based on a team's performance over the last four years. Yes there are anomalies - Uruguay are not the second best team in the world - but all in all it is a pretty good indicator of where a team are in international football standings.

Now we anticipate the customary calls for better training facilities to impart ball retention skills on our players. There will also be the inevitable 'Hargreaves Syndrome'. That is, the players who improve the most are those who did not play, as Hargreaves grew as a player beyond the realms of his own wildest dreams without kicking a ball during the World Cup in South Africa. This time Wilshire had a fantastic Euro 2012. Not to mention Kyle Walker. In normal circumstances, the manager would be hounded out, but we as a nation have settled for the quarter finals.

Yes we did miss Walker and Wilshire, but the problem is not ball retention. Are you telling me the likes of Champions League winners Wayne Rooney and Steven Gerrard do not have the requisite ability to retain the majority of possession against Ukraine, the 52nd best side in the world, with not a single player who could play in the top half of the Premier League?

England started each game with four Champions League winners in Gerrard, Rooney, Terry and Cole as a base. There was also a whole host of Premier League winners in there, the most recent of which, Lescott and Milner, played alongside the likes of Balotelli and Silva in extravagant style all season.

And a team so good it could do without one of the best defenders of all time in Rio Ferdinand in the interest of squad harmony - a luxury decision that most teams do not have.

A bench so good that nobody raised an eyebrow when Aaron Lennon, the man who single handedly ripped apart AC Milan at the San Siro to knock the Italian champions out of the Champions League, failed to make the squad. Remind me, who was the manager that masterminded that tactical victory against all the odds?

Why did England surrender 60% of possession to Ukraine, 65% to France and over half to Sweden? And how did Italy, with a far worse team than England, Pirlo apart, have 36 shots to our 9?

Tactics. 4-4-2 is not good enough, Roy, not anymore. Not against the Germans, the Spanish, nor the Italians. Ukraine and Sweden were too tactically cute and progressive for us. Our two ageing central midfielders gave absolutely everything to the cause but time and time again they were outnumbered in the centre of the park.

With their fullbacks overlapping, Italy had four players with excellent movement swanning around the centre of midfield. To combat this, particularly as Pirlo took control of the game, England were crying out for an added presence in midfield. There was no Wilshire, Carrick or Lampard - so what? If you pick Henderson - which most people would agree was as bizarre a decision as the inclusion of Martin Kelly over Rio - then play him or Phil Jones.

There would have been an entirely different flow to the game had Phil Jones or Michael Carrick started alongside Parker, with Gerrard slightly ahead, behind Rooney. Maybe we would have lost anyway, but not like that.

Past England teams have had all the style and skill with none of the luck. It is a fallacy to suggest we can't produce players who hold on to the ball with Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard et al. This year was as though all the luck we missed out on in recent years was finally let loose - the penalty shootout again a step too far.

I like Roy Hodgson, he makes me proud to support England. He speaks several languages, oozes respect and manners and so forth. He is the most likeable manager since El Tel. But I can't help feeling the FA missed a trick by letting Redknapp slip by. I'm not looking forward to four more years of this style of football and I'm not alone.

 

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It was different this time. Expectations were at an all time low and we were left scratching our heads in bemusement as to how a pub team like England qualified for this tournament to stand shoulder t...
It was different this time. Expectations were at an all time low and we were left scratching our heads in bemusement as to how a pub team like England qualified for this tournament to stand shoulder t...
 
 
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07:59 AM on 07/01/2012
El Tel wasn't likeable, he was another Cockney wide boy like your chum 'Arry. Very very poor article.
11:25 AM on 06/27/2012
maybe if the world cup was held up here in newcastle in the winter we may stand a chance, our players are not athletic enough to compete withe the worlds finest in hot conditions, they need to work on fitness more than anything else, a few of our big names simply should not be included in our world cup squad because if they are we might not even qualify this time, never mind we have good darts players.............dont we!!
03:21 AM on 06/27/2012
the main problem......their is to much money in the game.
all prem club managers..then become under pressure for ..instant success.
hence... the arrival of the foreign legion from all over the world.
this took place around 1994 when sky tv sports deals came into force,
young england trainees ..then become ..over looked ..either give up the game or a
lower league club.....never to return.
we need a new system for the likes ..rooneys ..scholes..shearer..charlton for the future,
to be born again and many many more,
as for the divvy.... expert blaming roy hodgson on his tactics...no one could have done better.
on a note... the best players in the prem league over the last 20yrs or so.
e.cantona/man u....t.henry/gunner......d.drogba/blues.
pure class ..
its the likes of this quality of player.. that has damaged our youth policy for national team.
i will continue to dream on...........come on england !!!!!
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08:05 AM on 07/01/2012
If the problem is money then why aren't Spain poor? Their team is basically Barcelona and they're not short of a bob or two.
03:16 AM on 07/02/2012
as for your barcelona team...being spains national team you are well off the mark.
three of the goals scored in the euro final ..were by england prem players,
you know the ones ..d.villa [man.city]..torres..mata both [chelsea] also some who recently,
left england prem......alonso [liverpool]...fabregas.[arsenal]..and many more in the squad.
You said in your reply to me money.. is not the problem in the english game,
below is a list of the [ seven clubs] who sacked their prem managers ..last season by the instant fame and fortune ..ethos..installed by the chairmen of the prem league.
chelsea..aston villa...sunderland..qpr..wolves..liverpool...spurs.
and you say money is not the issue...hum i wonder wot is..?????
02:58 AM on 06/27/2012
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01:47 AM on 06/27/2012
Bold claims.

'Ukraine, ..., with not a single player who could play in the top half of the Premier League?' - not even Tymoschuk, who started for Bayern against Chelsea?

'one of the best defenders of all time in Rio Ferdinand' - really? Not this season.

'Aaron Lennon, who single handedly ripped apart AC Milan ...' - he didn't. He played well, but it was a tight match that could have easily gone the other way. It was hardly Zidane or Messi.

'Italy, with a far worse team than England ...' - no. Italy had much better forwards; even if Rooney had been playing well it's about even. All four who started in midfield for Italy are probably better on the ball than the England 4. England's back 4 is arguably better - but they did keep a clean sheet.

'4-4-2 is not good enough' - never mind that Italy were themselves playing a variant of 4-4-2. Or that Spain played 4-4-2 for most of Euro 2008. Or that both City and United played 4-4-2 often this season.

'Maybe we would have lost anyway, but not like that.' - yes, I too would have much preferred being beaten comprehensively in 90 minutes.

'I'm not looking forward to four more years of this style of football ...' - fair enough, but if you're acknowledging that the team wasn't trying to keep possession (and it wasn't), why bother with that part of the discussion?
11:06 AM on 06/27/2012
spot on.
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08:09 AM on 07/01/2012
Andrew Gold 'sports journalist' just got taken to school by Hilbilyjim92.

Mr Gold, when an amateur is so much better at your job than you are, may be it's time to find a new line of work?
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01:00 AM on 07/02/2012
I usually don't tend to reply to this sort of accusation because it might suggest I take myself too seriously... However:

Fair enough, Tymoschuk is a good player. They did lose to Chelsea though, who finished 6th in our league.

Regarding Rio: If i said, for example, one of the best midfielders of all time, George Best... that wouldn't imply he had a great season this year but it would still be accurate. Same goes for Ferdinand, one of the best defenders of all time.

Without Lennon, Spurs would not have won that game against Milan.

England's back five - on paper - is the best in the tournament, so with the likes of Gerrard and Rooney, we should have been much better than Italy.

Italy did not play a 4-4-2 in the traditional sense, they had a narrow midfield diamond with overlapping fullbacks. The midfielders completely flooded the centre of the pitch.

I would have preferred the team go out and play attacking football.

And the last point is nonsensical.
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And to you, Huffpost Super User, if you believe that a journalist's job is confined to writing opinion-filled blogs that 'super users' agree with then you should research what we actually do!
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12:56 AM on 06/27/2012
The idea that England's players cannot hold the ball is true but simplistic.

All formations have weaknesses. The two winger, 4-4-2 formation has its weakness in central midfield with only two players so often facing 3 or 4 opposition players.

The first requirement for this formation is therefore two central midfielders who are capable of dominating qualities on and off the ball. England have nothing remotely good enough.

The second requirement is two threatening wingers - wingers who can not only keep the opposition fullbacks defensively honest but also demand that opposition central midfielders come wide to lend a helping hand and thus relieve the pressure on their own central midfield.

England do not have such wingers. Particularly Milner and Young.

The overall result for England is that the weakness of the two winger, 4-4-2 formation is reinforced by the weakness in available players to play that formation.

England should go with a 4-2-3-1. The back four is ok, Barry and Parker defensive two, Gerrard, Rooney and AN Other for the forward three (Walcott, Wilshere, Lampard, Young etc) and the striker from Welbeck (not sure he's the real deal yet) Carroll or Defoe.

And they need to play with typical English pace and aggression.

It's not a world beating squad - we simply don't the players for that - but it would make better use of what we have and wouldn't be as embarrassing as the performance we've just seen.
11:59 AM on 06/27/2012
Some good points, but I don't believe the problems are as simple as formation, or, as others suggest the manager or tactics.
The Premier League is played at a fast pace - most of the time, there are in all prem teams a mix of British and foreign players; most foreign players can cope with the fast game, are comfortable on the ball and have natural ability to slow the game down when required without giving away too much possession.
Now, Serie A, Bundersliga, La Liga and La Ligue all play at a slower pace, and, generally they struggle with our mix of nations top Prem teams in the Champions League, but, when it comes to tournament football in the heat of the summer, our fast game doesn't work against the best, our players are like middle distance runners trying to compete with marathon runners and they can't keep possession because they get too tired.
It was naive of Roy to expect a less than fit Rooney to marshal Pirlo, he doesn't have the stamina, especially at 25C. Unfortunately, I can't see anything changing - ever, simply because the Premier League is not an English League - its a global league playing English style football in colder climates.
An obvious point: 90% of Premier League Managers have no motivation to bring English players through the ranks.
How many English players currently play in Serie A? I can only ever remember a handful, same goes for Bundesliga etc.....
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03:46 AM on 06/29/2012
I wouldn't disagree, phillpry, that it's a much more complex situation than just players and formation. But I think it's worth making the point that, to make the most of what you have, you need to match the style to the players when the only thing we're hearing is "English players can't hold the ball".

If there is any consolation from the competition, though it is probably clutching at straws, once again a finalist, and possibly a tournament winner, could not beat England in 120 minutes of play and needed a penalty shoot-out to proceed past them :)
11:38 PM on 06/26/2012
i cant agree more with what you have written. I mean if you look at the squad we have on paper we should have definitely implemented a much better style of football. The reason i think hodgson was the wrong man was similiar to his time at liverpool. He always tends to lead with the 'underdog' mentality(going into the Euros thinking that we could do what chelsea did was outrageous). Just like with liverpool his style was poor- flat 4-4-2, defend well and play on the counter. With the players he had taken to the euros there was no reason that he couldn't have played 3 through the middle-its just what is necessary in the modern game now. If im honest as well our back 5 is top 4 in the world; in terms of strength in depth too. Our midfield and attack arent world class but they are as capable as the italians (on paper). And isnt the basic lesson of football keep the ball? If our defence just keep blasting up the pitch there is no way we can mount any sort of challenge let alone control a game.I am still of the opinion Italy aren't a fantastic team and that we could have beaten them had the tactics been correct. However that doesnt mean the germans wouldnt have battered us off the park- but semi finals would have been a great achievement.
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08:17 AM on 07/01/2012
Without being mean, you don't know as much about football as you think you do, mate. Sorry.
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11:20 PM on 06/26/2012
Fascinating piece by Andrew Gold. Sports scientist Geir Jordet from the Norwegian School of Sport Sciences, in Oslo, analysed all penalty shootouts in 20 World Cups, 11 European Championships, and 6 UEFA Champions League matches, resulting in 37 penalty shootouts and 298 players. Would being a 'high status', or celebrated footballer, have an impact on ability to take penalties in the particularly high pressure situation of a 'shootout'? Status was assessed based on major international soccer awards: FIFA World Player of the Year, World Cup Golden ball/Silver ball/Bronze ball, UEFA Club Footballer of the Year, and South American Footballer of the Year; a total of 41 players involved in these penalty shootouts had won one, or more, of these awards. Jordet found, astonishingly, that recipients of prestigious soccer awards, or so-called 'superstars', were statistically more likely to miss from a penalty in a high pressure situation. They 'choked' under pressure; for example, they often seemed to take the penalty too fast. Could this be because higher status players suffer more 'ego threat' in a penalty shootout? There is more information on the psychology of penalty taking in our blog http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-raj-persaud/inside-the-mind-of-the-pe_b_1624132.html?utm_hp_ref=uk . Geir Jordet's paper is entitled 'When Superstars Flop: Public Status and Choking Under Pressure in International Soccer Penalty Shootouts' and was published in the 'Journal of Applied Sport Psychology' in 2009.
10:53 PM on 06/26/2012
Usual blame the manager stuff. But we had a team that had to drag themselves around the pitch with no intention of winning. We often rant on about the England players lacking the passion that their counterparts ooze in abundance but it's little wonder when you have the likes of Rooney having to be 'ordered' to sing his own national anthem. It's a pity the players didn't have the same patriotism of their supporters and until that changes, we'll never win. As for Rooney being world class...he pales into insignificance compared to Ronaldo. You could have the best manager in the world, but as the saying goes...''you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"'
09:47 PM on 06/26/2012
as kids we are taught to get rid of the ball if there's any danger, we were told"if in doubt,kick it out"that is not the way football is coached in spain,italy,germany or any of the other good teams
this is why we cant retain possession as well as other sides,because its ingrained at an early age to hoof it away,our goalkeepers look to boot it as far up the pitch and away from their goal as possible,unlike continental keepers who look to roll it out and not concede possession.
we need to teach kids to be comfortable on the ball and to stop treating it like a ticking bomb, no manager in the world can win anything with the players we have, and no manager will in the next 15 years either
10:57 PM on 06/26/2012
It's this nanny state we live in. We're breeding a generation of wimps.
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09:42 PM on 06/26/2012
What a load of twaddle.......It doesn't matter who manages England, if the team are puffing and limping around after 80 minutes as they were against Italy they'll never win ! Mind you I suppose when you pay someone millions a year they probably haven't much drive or enthusiasm for hard work !!
09:35 PM on 06/26/2012
The best manager is always limited by the talent he has at his disposal.... The lack of quality of England players is concealed by the fact that those in successful club teams are surrounded by much for talented international players. When put together in a national team, England have over the last 20 years been proved to be so far behind the ball, in tactical nouse, natural ability, and flair that anyone with an objective eye knows that we are and always will be never closer than the top 10 in Europe, and will never get close enough to challenge the likes of Germany, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands etc etc... Don't blame the manager - even Harry couldn't have done better. All the players in the post match interview could suggest was that they had done their best and worked their backs off... sorry guys - not enough without talent and skill ......
09:34 PM on 06/26/2012
Whose Andrew Gold ??
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10:03 PM on 06/26/2012
I don't know but whoever he is, he can't even spell Wilshere!
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10:47 PM on 06/26/2012
Just a nobody that talks a good job like all the rest
08:36 PM on 06/26/2012
Apart from the penalties England were undefeated .Yes we took a below par squad there but while premier league managers have too much say in who can and who cant be picked to play for their country we will always struggle.We burn players out we don't keep them sharp and hungry for the game by rotation at club level or rotation at national level . We are what we are now that's a national side cobbled together not stitched together. When someone puts some thought into the England team and some backbone into the F.A we may reach for something again BUT until then we will be also rans.
08:30 PM on 06/26/2012
some of these comments are making me laugh, properly laugh, yes to an extent some of our players hide away in teams and get carried by world class players, for example, glen johnson, he got carried all the way to 6th... Mr gold here makes several strong arguments. I for one don't mind Hodgson's appointment, however I do feel that for a short term thing (such as tournaments) a bit of magic from the likes of 'Arry would be epic. tactically he may not be that astute, as the second half of tottenham's season proves, but nobody around can make players play for a cause like he can. roy will be fine, sensible, conservative.... ask yourselves as england fans, is that what you want?
Mr gold, it seems grotesquely unfortunate how you have been given grief by england fans straight after we get dumped from a tournament?
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08:39 AM on 07/01/2012
Liverpool came 8th,