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Would the End of Great Britain Mean the Rebirth of Little England?

Posted: 03/03/2013 23:00

As Britain's credit rating has been downgraded so has its role on the world stage. As well as presenting an immediate challenge to living conditions and trade across the UK it also amplifies questions about the long term health and vitality of 'brand Britain' and the responsiveness of our political framework. To this shaky backdrop our constitutional future has never looked less certain, with Scots holding an independence referendum in 2014 and the potential for EU withdrawal only three years later.

With the idea of Britishness coming under ever-closer scrutiny, now is the time for the English to follow the other home-nations in asking what future they want for the Union. Unlike Scottish or Welsh nationalism, both of which have been historically underpinned by a strong strand of progressive radicalism, we tend to view English nationalism as a right wing phenomenon. Despite some recent changes there is still an uneasy and lingering relationship between the St George's cross and its reactionary connotations. One recent report found that almost a quarter consider the St George's cross to be a racist symbol. How can it be that so many are so ashamed of their own flag when the same poll found that the proportion of English people who prioritises their English identity (40%) is now twice as large as that which prioritises their British one (16%)?

The report also found that 60% feel they have become more aware of Englishness in recent years. One reason for this upsurge is the growing sense that England is getting a raw deal from the Union. This has become more pertinent over recent years, with 50% saying that Scotland receives 'more than its fair share of UK public spending' compared to the rest of the UK. Thus far it hasn't resulted in any significant support for either Scotland's departure from the UK or an English parliament. But that may be about to change. If Scots vote for independence in 2014 it will spell the breakup of Britain as we know it. Could Westminster sustain its archaic system of Lords and peers if Scotland opted to depart, or would it need a complete overhaul? Could the historical British narrative continue in any meaningful sense if such a major strand were severed?

Even if Scots do vote to stay in the Union then it's likely to lead to a very different settlement. It would almost certainly result in a more federal UK, with the devolved parliaments only increasing their autonomy, it could almost be characterised as a post-British union. Could federalism be a long-term solution? It could definitely work in the short term, but I suspect the inevitable ties between domestic and foreign policy agendas would make a permanent arrangement very difficult. Despite any political differences there will always be a strong case for a continued, and mutually beneficial, monetary and social union, but would the defence needs and foreign policy of Scotland be the same as that of England?

What would England's military role be after Britain? The UK has already found itself sharing air craft carriers with France, and there are growing questions about the cost and practicality of the ego-enhancing nuclear deterrent. An independent Scotland would almost certainly disarm its trident fleet, but could it really be re-homed south of the border when the MoD is suggesting otherwise? There is an element of false reality about the debate though, and Labour is already talking about joining the Tories in going into the next election calling for trident to be renewed. In reality it's hard to believe that England would choose to maintain the fourth largest military budget in the world when its power was so stumped and the process of decolonisation has seen the empire scaled down to a collection of far away outposts and rocks. However, at the same time as Britain's national story is collapsing under its own bloated sense of prestige, the English one can be redrawn and redefined.

Despite the gloomy economic circumstances, England has a lot to celebrate; it is a beautiful and tolerant multicultural society that has contributed a great deal to the world socially, politically and culturally. Yet the 'English question' has only been prodded and poked by the political classes rather than substantially addressed. The right wing narratives tend to be vague, triumphalist and tied up in feelings of nostalgia and premonitions of ongoing Union, and the progressive responses have yet to comfortably address the changing constitutional landscape. Without the moral and psychological baggage of Empire and the costs and responsibilities of maintaining such a vast arsenal, a new focus can be put on domestic policy.

The truth is that England is divided. There is a real and perceived political inequality in the country's governance. In 2011 the IPPR found that 72% believe UK government looks after some parts of England more than others, with 79% saying London and the South East are favoured over the rest of the country. There needs to be a serious discussion about the ways in which the regions that many feel are being neglected can be politically and economically empowered. There have been attempts to introduce mayoral structures to the cities, but these have either been rejected outright or met with apathy. Polling suggests that 70% feel that a central UK parliament is the best place to make legislation for England, and this means that Westminster needs to adapt. The first step should be a ban on Scottish MPs voting on issues that don't affect their constituents. This is not a new idea and is supported by a clear majority of English people, but it is one which was unlikely to progress when Gordon Brown was in Downing Street.

As things stand, the polling suggests 2017 may usher in a new era of post-British isolationism. If that should happen then the regressive cycle would be complete. Progressives need to work together in shaping an exciting and engaging vision for Englishness in a post-British union. Ed Miliband's 'One Nation' mantra wasn't a bad start from a party political perspective, but beyond that it felt dated and southern-centric.

Over time Scottish nationalism has started to be seen as a pragmatic force that can preserve the welfare state and great British institutions like the NHS. Both the Scottish and Welsh parliaments have chosen to prioritise indirect re-distribution with policies such as free presecriptions to minimise the impact of Westminster's cuts. Unfortunately some of these ideas have barely entered the political lexicon in England. There is no doubt that there are tough times ahead, but if we are to conclude that Britain as we know it is in a state of political and military decline then surely one of the positives to emerge from the ashes can be a more confident, progressive and representative vision for modern England.

 

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As Britain's credit rating has been downgraded so has its role on the world stage. As well as presenting an immediate challenge to living conditions and trade across the UK it also amplifies questions...
As Britain's credit rating has been downgraded so has its role on the world stage. As well as presenting an immediate challenge to living conditions and trade across the UK it also amplifies questions...
 
 
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William Ulmann
00:18 on 10/03/2013
Who pocesses comments? Why do some appear asap and others take ages?
23:03 on 05/03/2013
trouble with england , more than any other nation on these islands is,,,, well as far as i can see when watching TV... it's either too posh or too pish.. Downtown/bigbrother for example
07:12 on 06/03/2013
trouble with your post , more than any other post on these boards is,,,, well as far as i can see... it's a load of twaddle

Stop watching the tele and get out more. You might then be able to form a world opinion
15:23 on 05/03/2013
england is finished now if you are young get out while you can .
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tc-byrne
Victoria Concordia Crescit
18:28 on 05/03/2013
And go where exactly?
00:28 on 10/03/2013
Or stay and fight to make it the country we can all be proud of. Don't give up.
14:29 on 05/03/2013
There has always been a Little England, in The R.O.S.E LAND - ( The Rest Of the South East ) where the Rein of David Camelot has his Headquarters.
13:39 on 05/03/2013
lets face it, england is finished. more and more brits are leaving for a better life whilst more immigrants from third world countries are arriving. it doesnt take much brainwork to realise that in twenty or thirty years from now england will be a third world country flooded with foreign criminals.
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William Ulmann
00:06 on 10/03/2013
Sadly, several friends have done so. They took between £60k and £350k of capital to re-start their lives together with their young children to Australia, NZ and Canada.
Britain is not finished yet, unless Lbour get into power again.
11:58 on 05/03/2013
The term 'separatist' was used initially by Brits as a pejorative, trying to smear the Independence movement by association with Basque and Quebecois 'separatist' movements which turned (counter-productively) to violence. Nationalism in Scotland has studiously avoided this approach, and we therefore reject the term. Over a hundred countries have won independence from the UK in the last century, and not a single one has asked to be let back in. Most of them enjoy excellent relations with the UK today. If they celebrate the event, they celebrate 'independence'. They don't have a 'Separation Day'. No one is proposing any form of separation in this debate. Time to get better informed!
14:03 on 05/03/2013
Umm you are talking about Commonwealth countries which is a whole different ball game to the United Kingdom or Great Britain (ie not including Northern Ireland). In GB the nation states that comprise it are part of the mainland, separated by imaginary borders but with distinct national identifiers. Actual autonomy for any nation state is not, therefore, physical, but rather a separation of governance.
22:34 on 05/03/2013
OK, Tim, I think I'd accept that analysis. I sense quite a difference in tone between 'separation of governance', and 'separatist' as a term of abuse. British Unionists in Scotland are easily the worst offenders, and appear to have very little positive to contribute to the independence debate. But I believe it would also be very helpful for future understanding between the nations of the UK (regardless of the outcome of the referendum) if opinion in England could catch up.
10:20 on 05/03/2013
UNUNITED KINGDOM [or should it be QUEENDOM ] lol
10:13 on 05/03/2013
Would the End of Great Britain Mean the Rebirth of Little England?
The way things are going we will loose our identity all together in years to come, No one here to fight for OUR rights no one stopping over crowding with imigrants this country will end up another moslem dust bowel Briton will not recover
Its gone to fare to stop no one got the guts to stand up to germany on one side and the moslems on the other, We need to stop all benifits all to gether to many hand outs We need to get out the eu, build up our borders and deport .
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
11:31 on 05/03/2013
Unfortunately I have to agree with your post entirely. It has gone too far to stop. It hasn't been great Britain for some time. Goodbye Britain, hello Britanistan, or whatever they choose torename it.
13:30 on 05/03/2013
Like the capital of British Pakistan in Sparkbrook. Birmingham.
11:50 on 05/03/2013
here here mate I am with you 100 percent
09:35 on 05/03/2013
We've joined the majority of nations,only Germany & Canada still have triple A rating
09:21 on 05/03/2013
The problem with the St Georges Cross Flag is the same as the Confederate Flag in the US. It represents a regime that belives in the opression of different races and that the White Man is supirior. Just as within the Southern Sates of America under the Confederate Flag White Americans opressed Black people. Under the Cross of St George the English opresssed the Muslims under the reign of Richard the third.
11:27 on 05/03/2013
A rather simplistic view of that period if you don't mind me saying.
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
11:34 on 05/03/2013
I agree, extremely simplistic. also in most case not supported by the facts.
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William Ulmann
00:09 on 10/03/2013
There are always such views!
11:27 on 05/03/2013
I think you are over stating Richard IIIs success! We nicked many ideas from the then Caliphate. Thanks to them we got most of our modern navigation techniques.
09:07 on 05/03/2013
Does official recognition of LITTLE ENGLAND mean we shall no longer be a member of the EU and that we shall have to reapply
08:31 on 05/03/2013
England does not have a multicultural society. England has had other peoples cultures copied and pasted over the top of our own without the consultation or consent of the host nation .
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hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
09:25 on 05/03/2013
And English culture is?
10:13 on 05/03/2013
Obviously lost on you
11:15 on 05/03/2013
it used to be getting pissed on a sat night, now it seems getting pissed every night in kavos! No wonder the nation is in decline - there is no longer any sense of restraint, anything goes. At one time the world over the English gentleman's word was his bond. No longer they all seem to be busy groping each other or someone in their grip!
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
11:36 on 05/03/2013
Well said!!
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
00:50 on 05/03/2013
I don't think the writer of this blog has looked at the polls for independence otherwise this piece would never have been written. If he looked at the polls he would see that support for independence has fallen off a cliff.
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Andrew Smith
10:01 on 05/03/2013
The article doesn't say Scots will vote yes in 2014, it says they may, but also addresses the aftermath of a no vote. Last polls put independence for Scotland on roughly one third (34%) but more powers at a clear majority, there will be some degree of constitutional change regardless.
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
11:09 on 05/03/2013
The word aftermath conjures up visions of disaster! I think you will find that many Scots are very happy and comforted by the union and are dismayed by the antics of the SNP. I know I am. And when economic boom is followed by bust and we return to visions of the 1930's Great Depression, I think we will thank our lucky stars that we are part of a larger whole.
11:52 on 06/03/2013
Polls show that more English people want Scotland to go independent than do Scottish people. An independent Scotland would mean very little to most English people except that we wouldn't have to listen to their constant whinging!
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
00:44 on 05/03/2013
In the latest polls, only 23% of Scots want independence. The SNP are getting so desperate about their falling support that they have banned the use of the word separatism!

An independent Scotland is only going to happen in the dreams of the SNP.
09:03 on 05/03/2013
Hi Mickey, talking to quite a few Scottish people recently who are against separatism they all say that Alex is look to sixteen year olds who he hopes to be giving the vote to in the near future to secure that dream.
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hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
09:26 on 05/03/2013
Looks like you've been talking to people who've bee pulling your leg!
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
09:30 on 05/03/2013
Hello John, the media recently highlighted university students who were going to vote on independence. They mentioned that the SNP were watching the result very closely. Since then, we have heard nothing so I guess it didn't go too well for the SNP otherwise everyone is Scotland would have heard about it!
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William Ulmann
00:16 on 10/03/2013
I hope the SNP fails for I wish greatness and happiness for all Scotland.
15:19 on 10/03/2013
Sorry William, but I neither have greatness or happiness in this union.
00:22 on 05/03/2013
"a london based scot" do any of them actually want to live in their beloved country?
19:31 on 05/03/2013
40% English in Argyll ..pop..90.000..
22:54 on 11/03/2013
i would have thought 99% of them spoke English.
15:20 on 10/03/2013
Yes if London stopped taking Scottish jobs.
22:58 on 11/03/2013
create some of your own and stop blaming the English.