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Assange's Supporters Need to Think Again

Posted: 17/08/2012 11:05

One of the many curious things about Julian Assange is the calibre of supporter he attracts. On LBC yesterday afternoon, we had interviews with a lecturer in South American Studies from Kingston University, and an American management consultant, both of whom were passionate in their support of the Wikileaks founder, and clearly intelligent.

They were convinced that the root of the argument was this: that Mr Assange, were he to submit to extradition to Sweden, would then, as swiftly as anything DHL can offer, be forwarded on to America, where he could and quite possibly would be charged with treason, which carries the death penalty.

Sweden has strenuously denied this, of course. And Britain has closer ties to America.

Neither supporter, as far as I could make out, had given much thought to whether Mr Assange might actually have something to answer: that the frankly odd, clearly offbeat, if not actively weird man they promote may have coerced two women in Sweden into having sexual relations they explicitly did not want. Clearly, nothing has been proven in a court of law. But if Mr Assange is innocent, as he claims, and given the calibre of barrister he could command, what is there to fear?

What his supporters have also managed to ignore, in their hatred of the USA, is that the Wikileaks supremo, who is supposed to be in favour of openness, and of a free press, has managed to suck up to a South American country with a less than exemplary record on journalistic rights.

The whole thing is a charade. Met police are surrounding the building; it seems unlikely in the extreme that Mr Assange could make it onto a plane and out of the country.

But it is not without a point, that point being to place Mr Assange very firmly in the spotlight, where he seems anxious to remain.

It seems fair to suggest that he wants to be seen as a hero; as the man who almost single-handedly challenged a super-power, and, while hardly bringing it to its knees, made it very angry indeed.

So it's all about Julian. Any first-year psychology undergraduate could diagnose that during their coffee break. His credulous supporters should begin to think a little more about the two women who are merely looking for due process, and a lot less about the grey-haired man who is leading the diplomatic world on a farcical, pathetically self-serving merry-go-round.

 
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01:49 PM on 08/23/2012
As he has not been charged and is only requested for questioning why haven't the Swedish authorities acquiesced to the request that Assange be questioned in the UK, he has made the offer multiple times and even offered to go to the Swedish embassy in Britain for questioning and yet the Swedish authorities have denied this request with no reasons given.
Why, if they only want to question him, do they refuse to do so in the UK; do you think it may because due process in the UK requires a public record of the proceedings yet due process in Sweden does not.
Perhaps if the questioning and evidence was on public record everyone would realize what a farce this whole extradition affair has been and that pre 2001 this kind of extradition would have been impossible as no formal charges have been made only allegations, maybe that's why they have refused to question him in the UK or provide any evidence except a single document requesting Assanges extradition for questioning.
Mr. Hayes I recommend you look into Swedish legal practices, secrecy, detention and extradition laws and perhaps then you will realize why any controversial figure would fear Swedish due process and much rather use the British legal system or the international courts because at least then its a legal requirement to keep a public record of the proceedings unlike in Sweden.
11:26 AM on 08/20/2012
Oh, mr. Hayes--it seems you are well misinformed; once upon a time, miss Anna Ardin was head over heels with mr. Assange, but then her fairytale was smashed when Julian was also seeing another, younger, girl; so in jealousy contacted the other and somehow they end up at the police asking for mr. Assange to take a HIV test because they had once had sex without a condom; when the police started using the term rape, the younger of the women fled the police in a state of shock; the other however, just sort of went along; these silly charges were soon dropped by the first prosecutor to see the case. However later clever people in the government seized the opportunity and hijacked the incident to bring Julian down--since they can't yet bring him down on accusations of spying. The Interpol issued a Red Notice for this journalist on account of not having used a condom when it doesn't do so for dictators an war criminals. Thus the resorts of power prove to be in action for the goal of silencing a voice that exposes their dirty secrets and abuse of power; what Assange does is heroic and singular--who else has the mad courage to sacrifice well being for a noble yet forgotten ideal of free speech, in an age where governments espouse technology to tell the masses what to do and take their freedoms away with various pretexts while they wage wars to get rich?
04:42 PM on 08/20/2012
Well said Youth, and I think I detect a bit of the green-eyed monster in Mr Hayes article, I expect he wishes he was an investigative journalist like Assange, instead of just an establishment mouthpiece.
12:03 PM on 08/19/2012
Think some people need to expand their thinking processes. Cut out his 'background' and concentrate on the fact that he exposed to the general public what the U S government did not want us to know.
Our government would not be going to such dangerous lengths in threatening the Embassy if the true reason was a sexual assault accusation.
Easy for the media to divert people's attention away from the nitty gritty.
10:30 AM on 08/22/2012
So you obviously think a sexual assault charge is not enough to interest the British Government. personally I think sexual assault is much worse than Assange's spying.
12:08 PM on 08/22/2012
I 100% agree with your personal opinion regarding sexual assault robipittman but my comment has been taken out of context. Two seperate issues here,and I stand by my own opinion that the government would not be employing such measures at the Embassy in question if it was a matter of sexual assault charges only.
08:57 PM on 08/18/2012
I think the issue could easily be resolved if Hague and Cameron agreed they would resign their positions as foreign minister and Prime Minister if Assange was subsequently extradited to the USA, they should be able to agree to this as they tell us it isn't going to happen. Assange may have legitimate charges to face in Sweden, although the nature of the charges are such that it is extremely difficult to prove either way if he is guilty or not as it is one persons word against another, exactly the type of charge which would be raised to try and discredit him. Even if he was found innocent, as he isn't a Swedish Citizen they would be more than willing to get him out of country if and when the USA did ask for his extradition.
02:52 PM on 08/17/2012
The nail hit well and truly on the head. But the hagiography of Julian Assange continues to spout forth from his supporters. An odious and - in terms of his treatment of Manning - an unprincipled man who thinks that his political activism exempts him from the criminal law.
10:38 AM on 08/22/2012
It is good to see that somebody can see Assange for what he is, a man who thinks he can do what he likes without thinking about the consequences to other people.
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04:00 AM on 08/25/2012
The truly astounding thing is, many of the Assangistas were up in arms at Rupert Murdoch after NOTW got caught doing pretty much the same damned thing.
01:14 PM on 08/17/2012
Here is a great example of why Julian Assange does not expect help from his own nation:
www.expendable.tv

They are consumed with their own corrupt political agenda, and sell citizens at the drop of a hat, using their closed media to cover their tracks. Read the Australian government emails on there, all unreported over there, of course.

Julian Assange is all too well aware of this situation. He is Australian, so he has nowhere to turn.
10:35 AM on 08/22/2012
The more you talk the more you show you know NOTHING about Australia. How about you explaining your charge of corrupt political agendas? Would you also like to explain how the Australian Government can over ride the legal processes of any other sovereign government or do you just sprout rubbish?