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Please Ditch the Old Firm to English Football Talk for Good

Posted: 22/03/2012 23:00

For years Celtic and Rangers fans have heard about a potential move to English Football, whether it is intimated by their own club directors, peddled by the Scottish media to sell a few more issues or proposed by the likes of Bolton chairman Phil Gartside. After the latest knock-back can we now put the idea to bed for good, Please!

As soon as Rangers entered administration last month, there was talk that Rangers could make the move down to the lower leagues of English football and just over the past week there was speculation that Celtic were in not-so-secret talks with the Football League to enter English football in League One.

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However, Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore believes that the Old Firm will never be allowed access to join the English top flight. Something which I am glad to hear and hope that this latest snub on top of all the other ones, finally gets through to the money men at both Celtic and Rangers that their place is in Scottish football nowhere else.

Scudamore said: "Our rules are simple. It says we're a league formed for clubs that play in England and Wales. I don't see that ever changing. I don't see that changing on my watch, not that my watch may last for long. There's more in it for them than there is for us."

In November 2009, after Bolton chairman Phil Gartside had proposed the Old Firm joining a two-tier Premier League, the EPL sides voted overwhelmingly against approving the plan.

The reason why the Old Firm are so hell bent on joining English football is money. Simple as that. The bottom clubs in the Premier League and even some clubs in the Championship earn significantly more money through TV revenue than the two Glasgow clubs.

English Football League chairman Greg Clarke commented on the Old Firm speculation, he said: "We have absolutely no intention of having any discussions with any club from another national league regarding membership of our competition.

"This would be highly disrespectful to the Scottish FA and Scottish Premier League and will not be countenanced by the Football League."

While fans of non-Old Firm clubs would welcome the departure of the Old Firm from Scottish football, the ugly sisters, as they are labelled by non-Old Firm fans, would also take the TV revenue, sponsorship and the crowds with them. A nightmare for the money men in Scottish football as many clubs in the SPL rely on the revenue brought in by Celtic and Rangers on match days, sponsorship and TV revenue.

The SPL recently signed an £80 million TV deal with Sky Sports and ESPN, but on the guarantee that the Old Firm are in the Scottish game and play four league games per season.

WIth the issue of Rangers in administration and facing the prospect of liquidation over debts owed to HMRC, that TV deal is at risk at any rate if Rangers go out of business or are relegated to the Third Division as punishment for breaching rules.

Despite their huge followings both at home and abroad - both clubs are cursed with the issue of sectarianism which would ultimately raise its ugly head in English football if such a move was made, something that the game down south does not need at this moment in time given their own problems with racism, football violence and homophobia.

One thing is clear though, both Celtic and Rangers are SCOTTISH football clubs, they were established in Glasgow and while there are examples of Welsh clubs playing in the English leagues, they started life in the English game not the Welsh leagues.

To make the move from the Scottish game to the English game, would not only destroy over a century of history at both clubs, but it would also prove that money is the sole objective of the powers-that-be at Celtic Park and at Ibrox rather than the silverware, the titles, the trophies, the honours and the bragging rights that the fans crave, year in, year out.

Rather than living in cloud cuckoo land, maybe, just maybe, the clubs should think about the fans rather than filling their wallets with as much money as they can. Ditch the idea of moving to the English leagues, concentrate on what is in front of you - playing in the Scottish Premier League.

If the money-men are so hell bent on getting into the English game let them take over a beleaguered club like Darlington, Port Vale or Portsmouth.

 

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For years Celtic and Rangers fans have heard about a potential move to English Football, whether it is intimated by their own club directors, peddled by the Scottish media to sell a few more issues or...
For years Celtic and Rangers fans have heard about a potential move to English Football, whether it is intimated by their own club directors, peddled by the Scottish media to sell a few more issues or...
 
 
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"I am not a number, I am a person!"
21:07 on 24/03/2012
So the new leader of the Tory party makes a keynote conference speech asking for all parties in Scotland to rally against the SNP. And where is this story on the Scotland section of this site?

Nowhere. Instead we have football, weather and Pandas.

I consider that a disgrace.
23:19 on 23/03/2012
Not just about money.

It must be mind-numbingly tedious to play in a league which has, in practice, only 2 teams in it. I imagine that many fans of Celtic and Rangers would welcome the chance of their teams swimming in a bigger pond. And let’s not fixate on the EPL being an English league - Call it a British Premier League and be done with it.
19:33 on 23/03/2012
This is a story in Scotland, and nothing more. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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16:22 on 23/03/2012
And... back in the real world of real people going to see real teams playing football, the 3rd division match of the day is Alloa Athletic v Queens Park. It won't be pretty in the way that Barcelona are pretty, the skills on show may not be silky like real Madrid are silky, but the inevitable small attendance will see a game played with spirit and passion. It is unlikely that any section of the crowd will be singing songs about wading in the blood of the other team's supporters. Admission is around £10. Who's going to enjoy their match more? The Alloa and Queens Park fans who care about their teams or the Old Firm glory hunters who care about the glory(?) their teams are perpetually chasing? My money's on the day out at Alloa being better value.
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Seaniebhoy
16:49 on 23/03/2012
For the love of your local club, you sir are my hero. Where I come from the only local football club was in Galway, and because of the GAA rivalry my support of that team was out of the question.
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If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
13:23 on 26/04/2012
Used to live in Carrigaline, in Cork and although Cork City tried hard, GAA and rugby drew the crowds. How is Galway doing with Nick Leeson in charge of the cash?
13:15 on 23/03/2012
We do not need the Scottish teams in our league. What possible reason could we have for putting out English or Welsh teams for these two, with a recent history of bad behaviour and financial instability?
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Seaniebhoy
16:57 on 23/03/2012
Celtic have been consistently turning a profit for years, it is Rangers who are in financial trouble, and that isn't the fault of the club, but the fault of David Murray and Craig Whyte....also with Pompey - as well as a few more like Port Vale etc. - going bust your example of finances is a poor one....I do accept your reluctance because of a minority of our fan base - I like to refer to them as fans of singing rebel songs rather than Celtic supporters - but again this is a minority that can eventually be priced out the same way english clubs priced out those NF hooligans. Other than that Celtic has gone down south on a number of occasions for Friendlies as well as Europe without any trouble or complaints from opposing supporters, such as the Emirates Cup last summer.
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Seaniebhoy
12:56 on 23/03/2012
Andy it's true that a small minority within "The Green Brigade" consistently shame our club with sectarian songs as well as offensive songs glorifying the IRA, but they are a very small minority that are most vocal against Rangers, Hearts and Motherwell....Celtic have taken countless trips down south for Friendlies, Testamonials and European matches - and to my knowledge - there wasn't any trouble. Moving into the rich Englsih League will allow us to begin pricing out these neds just as the English clubs were able to price out the right wing hooligans that followed them through the 70's and 80's.
09:01 on 23/03/2012
Can you imagine the massed hordes swallowing the expense of trips to the South coast of England or Wales every second weekend? Season tickets are exorbitant enough but to add a season's worth of travel costs to that...Aye it's a working man's game.
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Seaniebhoy
12:50 on 23/03/2012
I don't see why not, we already make trips down south anytime someone retires and an English club wants to have a testamonial match.