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Bisexuality and Marriage

Posted: 09/06/2012 01:00

In all the talk about same-sex marriage recently, especially after President Barack Obama's somewhat late but still historic announcement about his 'evolving' views on the matter as well as Denmark passing an equal marriage law in parliament this week, a certain group of people with a vested interest have been ignored.

While gays, lesbians, and homosexuals are all terms used and people referred to in the discussions, bisexuals seem to have been forgotten.

Bisexuals, of course, might be in either opposite-sex or same-sex relationships, and if it's the latter, they too might want to marry their same-sex partners just as much as some homosexuals do. Bisexuals, too, have fought for equal access to marriage (and other rights) and yet seem to be regularly erased from the picture.

Much of this stems, I think, from societal biphobia and from fear of the challenges that bisexuality presents.

For example, it is safer to think that people are always "either-or". They're either black or white, Christian or non-believers, gay or straight, and so on. Of course the truth is that few people fall solidly into easily understood categories. Bisexuality reminds people that sexuality is more fluid than that.

If you accept that others might feel attracted to people regardless of gender, then that means you, too might feel that way. And that's scary. You might worry that one day you'll find yourself in a relationship with someone of the 'wrong' gender, and you wonder what you would do or what your friends and relatives might say then. So it's easier and more comfortable to just pretend that this isn't valid and that bisexuals don't exist. Doing this also makes the idea of marriage more clear-cut.

Bisexuals are also viewed as a threat because people erroneously consider them greedy and promiscuous. There's the false idea that if you're bi, you want both men and women at the same time. You're never satisfied and if you're with a man, then you'll soon be looking for a woman, or vice versa.

This mistaken belief about bisexuals causes stress in regard to the idea of marriage for a couple of reasons. One is that some people wonder if bisexuals can have a monogamous marriage, so they leave bisexuals out of discussions about marriage since they view monogamy as integral to relationships. The obvious point here is that marriage is different for all couples and while some might choose monogamy, that's not for everyone, and that's true for all people regardless of their sexuality.

Also, some people claim that allowing equal marriage means that society is heading down a slippery slope where one day threesomes can get married (or people can marry their pets, or their grandparents, and so on). Threesomes are often equated with bisexuality, so this fear of or distaste for a wider definition of marriage (one that allows for a variety of set-ups as long as they harm no one) extends into a fear of and distaste for bisexuals themselves.

Besides challenging people's ideas about sexuality, gender, and love, another issue here is that bisexuals tend to be rather invisible. If they're in same-sex relationships, they're viewed as gay, and if they're in opposite-sex relationships, then they're seen as straight. They have to speak up and label themselves as bi or else adorn themselves with bisexual jewellery if they want to be understood as bisexual. But since it's tiring and impossible to always do this, instead bisexuals get absorbed into other groups (gay or straight), and thereby their own needs and rights are conveniently ignored.

For these reasons and more, bisexuals tend to be left out of the debates and discussions surrounding equal marriage. But as society is slowly but surely moving towards a situation where all people have the right to marry whomever we choose, we must not ignore or fear bisexuals. Rather, we should learn from them.

If people can be attracted to others as more than just a particular set of genitals - and that's clearly the case - then that's a strong argument for allowing everyone the freedom to marry. Bisexuality thus is essential to the marriage debate.

 

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compro01
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08:41 AM on 06/12/2012
The current status of same sex marriage in the US may allow for a neat legal hack to construct a bisexual three-person marriage.

1. Obtain a same sex marriage in a state allowing it.
2. Move to a state that doesn't recognize same sex marriages and obtain an opposite sex marriage. They can't claim bigamy if they don't recognize the previous marriage.
3. Move back to the first state or to any other state that recognises same sex marriages. Tada, bisexual marriage.

Ianal, tinla, etc.
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10:21 PM on 06/11/2012
Look, I understand and sympathize with the problem of bisexual invisibility, but I'm not sure why that's relevant to the discussion of marriage.

What will a bisexual view add to it? Being able to marry a man *or* a woman? Um... kinda in the discussion already, since you can already do one and legalizing same-sex marriage will do the other.

I mean, it's a legitimate general complaint, but it's aimed in such a specific way I think the point is lost.
06:10 PM on 06/11/2012
If anything, I think we should go futher and question the gender binary. Bisexuality is a problematic word, considering that we by now know that gender is far more complex than the setup of two rogod and non negotiable genders of Man and Woman and because of the cliché-but-probably-true-for-a-lot-of-bisexuals that it is the person as a whole and not the gender or the way the person fits into the gender binary that is the cause of attraction. Same sex marriage is a step forward, but it's a lot more useful to question what gender has to do with marriage anyway.
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Nic the wonder puppy
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03:45 PM on 06/11/2012
And remember the best kind of marriage is one with a dog.
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03:05 PM on 06/10/2012
This entire piece is about presuming peoples beliefs, fears, assumptions then refuting them.

One long straw man argument with no meaningful conclusion.
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12:03 PM on 06/10/2012
From the article:

(If you accept that others might feel attracted to people regardless of gender, then that means you, too might feel that way. And that's scary. You might worry that one day you'll find yourself in a relationship with someone of the 'wrong' gender)


Horse pucky. I may have many feelings about bi-sexuals, but a fear that I may become one of them is not among my feelings. Of this, I am absolutely certain.
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QuakerJewish
Reality over myth.
02:16 PM on 06/10/2012
Maybe, but then there is your need to proclaim it, as if you felt someone, somewhere, needed to be set straight. That, in itself, opens suspicion big time. Why the inner need to declare your lack of homosexual tendencies?
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03:01 PM on 06/10/2012
QuakerJewish

("~ Why the inner need to declare your lack of homosexual tendencies? ~")

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

I am totally, completely, absolutely, without question, 100% homosexual. My fear is that someone, anyone, somewhere, anywhere would think that I have heterosexual tendencies. God forbid.
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10:24 PM on 06/11/2012
When someone accuses you of being afraid of being bisexual I think it's perfectly normal to say "nope. I know my own feelings."
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10:34 AM on 06/10/2012
I am genuinely interested - what are "their own needs and rights" that are separate from both hetero- and homosexual needs and rights? Surely, if we grant homosexual relationships the same rights that heterosexuals enjoy, we will also have ensured the rights of bisexuals - regardless of who they love.
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nzchicago
02:20 PM on 06/10/2012
That's a good point.
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05:01 PM on 06/10/2012
Angelaaaa

One would think.
F&F
10:26 AM on 06/10/2012
Only a bisexual person would complain in this way - and I don't see why there is any argument. Someone who is bisexual can get married or get a civil partnership. The choice is there already. Surely the whole point is that both unions are that of pledging commitment to one other person. No matter whether one can enjoy a sexual partnership with of either sex marriage is a commitment to only one other person.

I think the biggest issue with "gay marriage" is that a minority of our population is insisting we must change our dictionaries to suit them. For centuries dictionaries have defined marriage as the legal union of a man and a woman. Now we are being asked to accept that a "civil partnership" between 2 men or 2 women should be renamed as marriage. It isn't and, by definition, never can be! The 2 might share the same legal rights but that is as far as it goes. Back to bisexuality - if a person can choose to be legally attached to someone of either gender what is the problem. With those in civil partnerships insisting they should be allowed to call it a marriage should we really be trying to say we should find another label for and even smaller sector?
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nzchicago
02:24 PM on 06/10/2012
Sure, it's really all just about the dictionary.

If it were really just an academic argument over definitions of words, I don't think gay people would be fighting this hard for the right to use the word marriage. And I don't think straight people would be fighting so hard to prevent them. It's seems pretty important to both sides for it to be just about the dictionary.

Seems to me it's more about the status and privilege that straight people have, which they do not want to have to share. It's a bit like belonging to a private club, and wanting to keep the "undesirables" out.
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05:05 PM on 06/10/2012
nzchicago

Well, at least Jonathan Lodge has put a new spin on it. Usually, they complain because of the Bible or because of our dogs or some such non-sense. Using the dictionary is a new twist.
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QuakerJewish
Reality over myth.
02:30 PM on 06/10/2012
Civil unions DO NOT have the full benefits of marriage under the law. They are not equal.

The traditional definition of marriage in the US had been either "Husband and Spouse" or "Man and Spouse". The need to redefine it as "Man and Wife" is a reletively modern invention to deny homosexuals the right and benefit of marriage. Originally, it was only some churches that used the phrase, "Man and Wife" in the unofficial church ceremony. The marriage license issued by the state is the actual legal basis of marriage, not the ceremony itself.

You need to get more educated on the subject before posting nonsense based on false premises.
10:51 PM on 06/09/2012
Much of this stems, I think, from societal biphobia and from fear of the challenges that bisexuality presents.
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No way. Heterosexuals generally do not care and accept bisexuals. It is homosexuals who, dependent on a genetic theory of the origin of homosexuality have kept bisexuals out of the picture as they seem to threaten the integrity of homosexuality by suggesting that sexuality might be determined by factors other than genetics.

The repression of bisexuals reflects the politically aggressive stance taken by some homosexuals which has bot been countered effectively because of fears of screeches of homophobia.
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QuakerJewish
Reality over myth.
02:36 PM on 06/10/2012
Blaming the victim won't work. Homosexuals embrace bisexuals, which is why all their community centers are called GLBT centers. The B stands for Bisexuals. So you either lie, or are very misinformed.

It is people who are insecure in their own sexuality that make all the fuss. Like yourself perhaps. Afterall, you took the effort to read the article, then post a denial. Why would you care unless it affected you personally.
05:13 PM on 06/10/2012
There you go with the good old ways, insults and accusations., What do you cal that? Debate? Take your anti-democratic bleating elsewhere.
10:45 PM on 06/10/2012
Speaking of denial, here you are, denying millions of stories od bisexuals being belittled by their gay friends on the grounds that they're represented in the acronym.
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istanbulite
10:07 PM on 06/09/2012
This article would have been enhanced with a defnition of bisexuality. It is impossible to have a discussion about bisexuality if the definition sounds like a train ride through life where we make occational stops for different kinds of ice cream. It cannot be a phase or a political life style choice.
Rather the defintion needs to have boundaries and certainties. Ones sexual attractions and fantasy life needs to be roughly equal with both genders.
10:58 PM on 06/09/2012
That excludes most people to identify as bi, and it is a big reason why peole with bisexual tendencies don't want to identify as such. The point of labelling sexuality is that the labels fit reality, not the other way around.
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nzchicago
02:27 PM on 06/10/2012
"Ones sexual attractions and fantasy life needs to be roughly equal with both genders."

That is a common myth about bisexuality. I don't know who came up with that idea, but it purely theoretical. Reality is rarely that neat.
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istanbulite
06:08 PM on 06/10/2012
Thanks for your response NZ. If my definition is a myth and purely theoretical, then it is up to you to furnish your definition. If same gender sexual contact is the criteria for bisexuality then a huge percentage of humans should be thus defined. If there is to be any manner of conversation about bisexuality there must be a definition that is illustrative and can be used in research perspectives.
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Ben Wilson
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06:43 PM on 06/09/2012
Bisexuality I think may be something that cannot be quantified, much like any issue of sexuality, but it's even harder.
The thing we like to ignore is that Bisexuality is for many a stage in life they are stuck labelling as such. For example gays are cynical about bisexuality, because most of us made out we were bi sexual to begin with, something we later have a tendancy to ommit from our coming out stories.
As for lifelong bisexuals, well the name means different things to different bisexuals. Some are sexually promiscious, others polyamerous or just plain swingers. And then of course there are monogamous bisexuals, and i suppose you can have abstinant bisexuals, but there are any number of people who identify as bisexual, who have been socially drawn to such a label, who then realise they aren't bisexual when things move passed flirting and kissing. Others may very well be confused as well.
I'm not saying any of the above is wrong, it's called "experimenting" and most people explore homosexuality if only in fantasy. Perhaps if we weren't so eager to slap people with the label "bisexual" we might have a clearer view on bisexuality. I certainly think you become bisexual, it might be genetic, but it is still a social experience, you're not bound to ever explore or be fully aware of feelings for the same sex...However it occurs it is a far more unique experience than being straight or gay.
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Robert Frank
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04:09 PM on 06/09/2012
Although I have enjoyed sexual escapades with men before I could never be with one because I love women too much...so I guess that makes me neither bi-sexual, homo-sexual, or straight..I'm tri-sexual I'll try almost anything sexual
03:47 PM on 06/09/2012
Surely most people don't want to be labelled But just get on with their lives? If two same gender people marry why would they then want the world to know they are bi? It makes no sense. They would just want the world to know that they love the one they are with.
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carneliancrystal
Do I believe all the propaganda of course I do
03:30 PM on 06/09/2012
I just think the whole human race has lost its way to the point of ending in mayhem and self destruction. Through the spread of STDs there are too many different sexual standpoints being propagated in this world for it not to happen. Its just a matter of time! Aids was only the beginning and has been an unheeded warning. And I'm not saying that in a religious sense, its people who have disregarded the warning and continue to do so. Like it wont happen to me? no it wont till it does!

Send your flack now please rant over
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04:12 PM on 06/09/2012
AIDS is not primarily an affliction of gay men. The vast majority of gay men are not infected and it began among heterosexuals and worldwide vastly more heterosexuals than homosexuals are infected. At any rate, the extension of legal equality to gay people does nothing to further the spread of AIDS or any other sexually transmitted disease. On the contrary, shunning and ostracizing gays contributes to the problem.
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carneliancrystal
Do I believe all the propaganda of course I do
06:08 PM on 06/09/2012
That's strange John Did I mention gay men or elude to gay men anywhere in my comment?
I said the human race and people, what has legal equality got to do with STDs? and you state also shunning and ostracizing gays contributes to the problem. The problem of what exactly, STDs appearing out of thin air? I think you have employed a crowbar between the lines of my comment and decided your take on it, not what was written and intended, to encompass all people of whatever lifestyle disease does not discriminate.
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Ben Wilson
What's the story mourning Tories?
06:48 PM on 06/09/2012
STDs are an age old issue. Know your history a little better.
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carneliancrystal
Do I believe all the propaganda of course I do
08:42 PM on 06/09/2012
Have they gone away in recent history? did I miss something?