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It's Not the Size of Your Suffering; It's What You Do With It

Posted: 14/01/2013 09:47

News flash: Suffering is not a competition, regardless of what Julie Burchill and her ilk would have you think. Suffering is not really something you can quantify and compare and, even if it were, what would be the point?

Burchill, Suzanne Moore, and Julie Bindel recently have gotten into an(other) argument with transgender women, who they feel are bullying what Burchill terms "natural-born women". Burchill also seems to have an issue with people who have PhDs, and she refers to them as "[e]ducated beyond all common sense and honesty", perhaps due to some inferiority complex, and/or an inability to recognise the importance of education.

The main concern here is that in a recent article in the Observer, Burchill suggests that transgender women don't have the right to talk about being women or to complain or to compare themselves to other women, and in particular, to cisgender women, a term which means women whose birth sex aligns to the gender they feel themselves to be (and note to Burchill: "cis" comes from Latin and means "on this side", rather than having anything to do with cysts, so this is a case where a little more education would be helpful and certainly not "beyond all common sense").

In her piece, Burchill goes on to say: "We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net." "We" refers to her and her friends, and also seems meant to encompass other cisgender women. In other words, she implies that transgender women don't work for what they have and that they all must rely on family money.

While that is, of course, patently ridiculous, what is at the heart of this argument is the definition of a woman. And I'm not sure about why this is worth arguing about to the extent that some people believe it is.

Personally, I don't know exactly what people mean when they say they "feel" male or "feel" female, and I suspect it is different for each person. However, I do accept that individuals are the best judges of their own experiences. So if someone says that they feel like a woman, then that's good enough for me. And it should be good enough for us all. How can you argue with how someone feels?

Where it gets upsetting and tricky is when people starting claiming that they have suffered more than others. How can we genuinely compare the experiences of a white, working-class, cisgender woman such as Burchill to those of a black, working-class, cisgender woman, let alone a transgender woman? What would such a comparison look like? And why does it matter? Is life really a competition? Does a woman who has suffered "PMT and sexual harassment", as Burchill puts it, have a worse life than a woman who has not? Does it make the latter woman's life any less authentic or any less worthy of acceptance, recognition, or discussion?

What we ought to do is to stop bullying and oppressing others and stop comparing ourselves to them. It doesn't help and in many cases it actually hinders dialogue and progress. Instead, let's look for what similarities we share, and let's find common cause.

There's no reason why cisgender women and transgender women can't come together simply as women to fight against all the problems facing us and our world, including issues that Burchill herself raises, such as harassment, "the rape of children and the trafficking of women", and much more.

We're not comparing the size of our burdens here or how much we have suffered. Instead, we're looking forward to see what we can accomplish. Together.

 

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News flash: Suffering is not a competition, regardless of what Julie Burchill and her ilk would have you think. Suffering is not really something you can quantify and compare and, even if it were, wha...
News flash: Suffering is not a competition, regardless of what Julie Burchill and her ilk would have you think. Suffering is not really something you can quantify and compare and, even if it were, wha...
 
 
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12:13 PM on 01/16/2013
The point of Julie Burchill is to be controversial and stimulate debate, shaking us all out of the slough of inoffensive, evenhanded blandness which prevails in the media. They are just her ideas and opinions and you can choose to ignore them or think about them. That is free speech.
11:17 PM on 01/14/2013
Completely agree that the oneupmanship about suffering is completely counterproductive but disagree with the whole blame being placed on Burchill (although I don't want to be seen to be defending the way she reacted). It was a vile, horrible article which stomped all over the feelings of a lot of transgender people but I think there's a small, vocal minority of that group who are also to blame. By engaging in the competitive suffering game and feeling they deserve to feel victimised to a greater degree, some trans people are rude, hurtful and jump on comments (like Suzanne Moore's original comment about brazillian transvestites) which clearly had no vindictive intentions are are often taken completely out of context. Everyone needs to get down off their high horses and accept that feminism, sex, gender, they're all subjective and that frank, open discussion is a good thing - mud slinging is not. If the people who hurled abuse at Suzanne Moore had registered their unhappiness with a bit less venom, maybe they'd have generated something more productive than the current shitstorm. But Burchill is vile and should never, ever have said what she said or used the language she did.
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11:05 PM on 01/14/2013
Maybe it is time to put the alternative position. If I a middle aged man decide to wear a dress and wig and cosmetics, then I have the right to do so and i can call myself a woman. What I do not have the right to do is to expect others to deny the physical evidence, to deny thier own instincts and experience in order to satisfy my desires. I dont not have that right.To say that I do and to claim it as a human right is to try to manipulate others and to alter their right to decide who or what they deal with.
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10:59 PM on 01/14/2013
The Guardian have caved into the Nazi like intimidation from LGBT and withdrawn the article and thus another part of our freedom has been destroyed the fasict like tyranny of the minority.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
03:53 PM on 01/14/2013
Feelings can be wrong, and fickle. And often are.
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02:51 PM on 01/14/2013
I differ from the views here.

Speaking for myself, I don't have a lot of time for the transgender industry, as it now seems that it's accepted that if someone says: I'm a woman in a man's body, (and vice vers)a, long enough then they're opinion is accepted and they get their slice and dice. If someone says: I cut myself. They're given therapy.

I only hope that public money isn't used to pay for any transgender operations.

As for Suzanne Moore. Not so long ago she was a Daily Mail writer and she left because she said she was suffering severe depression, and hinted of dark thoughts. Then, not long after, I saw she was writing for the Telegraph, with no mention of depression, Principles were obviously a place to shop for dear old Suzie.
02:44 PM on 01/14/2013
It was strange that Burchill brought in class and so on totally unnecessarily and then pitted that against the trans community when the rate of homelessness in trans youth is really really high.
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Ian Rennie
It irritates people that I'm a librarian :)
01:47 PM on 01/14/2013
I expected this from Burchill and Bindel. They've always been these people. I expected and expect more from Moore, and I think she will come around eventually.
01:38 PM on 01/24/2013
Burchill's response was less than a week after The Guardian relaunched its campaign against reassignment treatment for trans people. Moore talks of it having been commissioned as "an Exocet".

Moore had no need whatsoever to use the phrase she did in her original article, and responded with such intemperance to suggestions that it was inappropriate that it is very difficult indeed to image that she wasn't deliberately setting up a trans-v-women confrontation.

In citing her friendship with New Orleans drag queens when defending her use of "transsexual" she also used the same technique as Burchill of painting all people who don't conform to gender norms as the same, and all to blame for the faults of any - a mindset that would be clear racism, sexism, or ageism if applied elsewhere.

She also clearly demonstrated a keen awareness of a very recent confrontation in the US too that certain extremists have painted in the same manner, which has resulted in some of them losing service to their web sites. I feel it was deliberate, and that it shows her true colours.
01:38 PM on 01/14/2013
When I put my hand between my legs and feel the lumps there, I "feel like a man". When I wear a skirt and heels, I feel like a person - until I put my hand between my legs, and there I "feel like a man".

My point is that the configuration of one's genitals is the only thing with any real relevance to "feeling like a [gender]" - when people apply that phrase to the wearing of clothing, or their hobbies and activities, they are subscribing to - and perpetuating - a whole catalog of societal expectations and cultural prejudices regarding "masculine" and "feminine". The experience of "When I wear this skirt, I feel like a woman" is based on one's immersion in a culture that enforces those prejudices. Why does society care about the configuration of anyone's genitalia? Why does it have to divide us into "men" and "women" - and pretend there's some huge difference between us? Why can't we all just live the 99% of our lives that isn't engaged in sex, as "people"?
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Ian Rennie
It irritates people that I'm a librarian :)
01:46 PM on 01/14/2013
"Why can't we all just live the 99% of our lives that isn't engaged in sex, as "people"? "

because we'd have to get the entire world to agree to participate in order for that to happen. Even then, I don't think the concept of gender identity is so valueless that we should throw it out. It just has a little more fluidity than gender essentialism suggests.
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jf12
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03:54 PM on 01/14/2013
What if we increased our sex lives beyond the 1%?