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Chris Dangerfield - Sex Tourist

Posted: 12/07/2012 00:00

This is how my Edinburgh show 'Sex Tourist' Starts:

"Who here uses prostitutes?"

(no-one says a word)

"Okay - who here uses internet porn"

(giggles and shuffles)

"Most of you - obviously - well, I have to inform you that those people in those films are
prostitutes, you just don't pay them. I do pay prostitutes, and therefore have suddenly become better than you; you who steal from prostitutes."

Being generous to myself - and, I like to think 'The World' - this then allows me to continue with my story of a Thailand sex holiday with my moral compass, if not pointing directly North, certainly not veering much further away than that of the common internet porn consumer, who, if my experience of life, people, and the internet is anything to go by, is far from a minority.

It seems it's impossible to say how much net traffic is porn. A quick Google suggests figures from as little as 4% to as much as 30% online traffic is internet porn. Even if it were 0.5%, taking the huge amount of internet traffic as a whole, it's still LOADS. And it is now accepted that many people are happy to sit in front of their computer wanking over free porn streams; that is, using prostitutes for sex without paying.

Not me. I pay whores and make no secret of it. I live in Soho and will frequently enjoy a pleasant afternoon with a prostitute. I talk about it with family and friends when they ask and often when they don't and often build my stand-up sets around sexual experiences of such pay to play engagements. My new show is no exception. Last Christmas I set off to Thailand to become a sex tourist, to pay for sex, lots of times. It went wrong and some pretty horrific things happened (whoops!) but my point remains, we live in a culture where the consumption of what amounts to free prostitution - via the internet - is widely accepted, often with some humour and yet real life actual-sex 'whoring' is still frowned upon, marginalised and demonised.

I would say prostitutes are exploited, yes. But no more than someone who stacks shelves for 12 hours a day for barely enough to live on. No more than anyone involved in bottom end menial - largely physical - labour, for that's what most work is, as summed up by William Morris in Useful Work versus Useless Toil some work is nice, good, pleasant, and some is bad, unpleasant, or 'a burden to life'. Prostitution is a specific example of a general problem - of exploitative labour - yet it seems to achieve a status based solely on its content.

The fascination with sex that clings to the Abrahamic religious practices of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, has a lot to do with this. The sexual body is to be. Those 'visual covenants with God' or as I prefer to call it them, the unnecessary removal of the protective skin of the male infant's penis, or simply 'child abuse'. These are all part of the informing historical phenomena that create a contemporary culture that allows us to maintain hypocritical distinctions that fall apart after any superficial analysis. In short, we separate the body from the sexual body when it comes to labour.

It could be argued that the spectre of STDs has assisted this distinction between watching prostitution and having sex with prostitutes, and I'm sure it has. My experience of growing up in the eighties can be expressed thus: "DON'T TOUCH ANYONE. SEX IS FUCKING DANGEROUS".

But again, this harbours a lie. With 25 years of fucking under my belt, I have never had unprotected sex with a prostitute. They won't let you. It is too much of a risk. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it has never happened to me. I've had all manner of STDs though, all picked up from one night stands when drunk, from bars, clubs, or mainly during my seven year stint at art college, where you could follow the movement of an STD like an unsexy bull in the incestuous china-shop of a small Devonian art-school.

Whatever the reasons, and I'm sure there are many others, overdetermined by all manner of public and private, hygienic, political, cultural, social and religious institutions of various more or less disguised types, actually having 'real' sex with an 'actual' prostitute is shrouded in darkness, suspicion, disdain, and considered morally and socially 'wrong'. Whereas watching them at home with a cup of coco before innocently crawling off to sleep is now woven into the fabric of our culture.

It's strange that for centuries we've happily paid for other humans to exert their bodies for our pleasure, whether it be a postman, a waiter, a boxer or comedian, whatever. We've also a long, long history of having sex for pleasure. Is bringing those two things together and paying for sex such a bad thing? Surely an honest, open society would consider it more honest and open, more 'social' than simply watching, without paying?

 

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Tony Mckenna
08:54 PM on 07/23/2012
a different take on the same theme:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/tony-mckenna/hell-de-jour-the-sex-trade_b_1693518.html
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Chris Dangerfield
12:07 PM on 08/07/2012
And here's my reply to that:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/../../chris-dangerfield/tony-de-jour_b_1696697.html
12:07 AM on 07/17/2012
"The sexual body is to be." What does that even mean? I want to hear about co-worker's sexual satisfaction as much as I want to hear about their bowl movements or their granmother's oral surgery. Far too many people are addicted to their own body chemicals; dopomine, seretonin, norepinephrine and oxytocin. I would fire a guy like Chris Dangerfield in a second for making good workers uncomfortable. If you pay $ for sex you ARE supporting a whole disturbed human exploitation. He has a straight line connection from his ego to his genitalia. Snip it! I say
11:34 AM on 07/13/2012
As an escort (or prostitute if you like!) it was really great to read an article that wasn't condemning or moralistic. Predictably the comments start mentioned trafficking, child abuse and drugs because that's what society associates with prostitution. In fact many many women (including myself) are independent business women who make totally free decisions about their work, who they see and how they conduct themselves, very few are drug addicted. Of course there are women out there who are pimped and who are addicts but there is a large proportion who are not and live in a nice safe clean world meeting nice respectable men. Prostitution in this country is a stigma, both for the men and the women, it's not talked about and those who don't know any better associate it with street walkers or high end Belle du Jour types. In reality is somewhere in between, but closer to the 'high' end than the junkie end!

Finally, in my experience (3 years) men come from all walks of life, ages, race, religion, class, marital status and professions. Their confidence and looks vary and the reasons why they pay for sex are numerous. There is absolutely no 'type' of man. This leads me to the conclusion that most men have paid for sex at some point and it's certainly not as unusual as people think and I expect a huge number of Mr Dangerfield's audience were madly trying not to look guilty when he asked his question!
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Chris Dangerfield
01:15 AM on 07/15/2012
Appreciated.
10:00 PM on 07/15/2012
Which country do you come from? I'me not quite at the level of Mike, but I did once walk into work, and to my two closest colleagues at the time (man and women) said I had had the best f*** of my life with a sex worker in Edinburgh. They kind of where gob smacked, but never condemned me and always referred to my 'friends' when I arrived late for an evening drink.

Since then I have been producing websites etc for working girls, and most of my colleagues know I do this in my spare time. I often bring conversations around to sex work, always in a supportive manner. They always seem interested, never have any spoken against this. May be its the industry I work in, IT, with a pretty intelligent set of people who are always travelling.
11:57 AM on 07/12/2012
And where do the young girls, still children really, and women that are trafficked, addicted to drugs and then exploited by the sex trade fit into this article? There is a huge difference between someone who chooses prostitution for a living, and someone who has no choice and is essentially raped many times a day.
01:10 PM on 07/12/2012
This particular argument reminds me of the drugs argument. In fact the similarities are astounding. Every seemingly sensible argument against drugs is not sensible because the endless lists of problems drugs cause, in these standard arguments, are actually caused by the illegality of drugs, not by drugs. In the same way, all the seemingly sensible arguments against prostitution contain problems which are caused by the illegality of prostitution. If it were legal and regulated, the problems would no longer exist, or at least would be vastly reduced. If you legalise drugs/prostitution all the associated problems (which are actually a result of the illegality and not the products) would either disappear or at least be seriousy reduced. Not to mention, it would free up resources to combat trafickers and people who force girls/boys or anyone into something they don't want to do. The problem is that now, the whole industry is targeted, forcing prostitutes into the hands of criminals to avoid the consequences of stupid laws. These criminals are unfortunately just the types, generally, who would exploit and not support prostitutes as the valuable employees they are. I find it very hard to understand why people find it so hard to accept this line of reasoning as to me it seems blindingly obvious. This is evidenced by places where prostitution/drugs is/are legal AND well regulated (the list is small unfortuntely, because even where legal, it is often still a fairly hidden/underground and stigmatised business).
02:33 PM on 07/12/2012
My starting point is always 'how will this effect the most vulnerable'.
The banking system is also legal and regulated, and yet look at the mess the economy is in. Regulation is only as effective as the organisation that enforces it, and legalising prostitution creates as many problems as it solves. Not for the Johns though, they will have more protection. So long as they go to a licensed establishment they don't have to worry about the age of the individual, that becomes the licence holders responsibility. And if the licence holder happens to work for a criminal organisation getting hold of documentation that proves that a twelve year old is actually 18 won't be a problem. Then it becomes the 12 year olds' fault, and she/he is put into the care system, as she is not going to blame the criminals that put her there, through fear of repercussions. The police will keep an eye on the establishment, but with all the cutbacks prostitution will be a low priority and business will very soon be back to normal. That's just for the licensed premises, what about the ones that arn't? Will the police have the time/will to go hunting them down? Or will instead come under the remit of HMRC?
02:34 PM on 07/12/2012
As for prostitutes being a valuable commodity, the laws of economics say that this isn't the case. A things value is determined by its scarcity. So a thirty year old woman whose been doing the job for a decade isn't going to command a high price from a John, and so isn't going to be valued by her employer. Instead, he or she is going to be constantly looking for the rare to exploit, and again we are led to the young and the vulnerable.
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Chris Dangerfield
12:39 AM on 07/13/2012
You're right, there is a 'huge difference between someone who chooses prostitution for a living, and someone who has no choice and is essentially raped many times a day.' which is why your comment is completely irrelevant.
Exploiting children or anyone into forced labour is an issue not particular to prostitution and therefore not relevant here.
08:28 AM on 07/13/2012
So the only aspect of prostitution that you consider relevant is that which fits into your argument? Namely that some women choose prostitution as a living, and you as a customer, should be allowed to purchase their product.
Fair enough, it's your blog.
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Laatab
All The Worlds A Stage
10:52 AM on 07/12/2012
A interesting piece I await with bated breath peoples comments. Personally I have no problem with paying a prostitute per se, but I wouldn't indulge as it supports a very exploitative industry. Now if I knew a lady who was independantly persuing a career in this way I wouldn't have a problem I suppose, thinking about it.

Then again, thinking a bit more about it, the idea of having to wear a condom, which I agree would be requisite in any casual encounter, for money or otherwise, definately turns me off. So no I wouldn't bother.
11:48 PM on 07/15/2012
Wearing a condom for the Full personal service, yes. Generally the oral sex is without. Often perceived as with a lot lesser risk, though not entirely risk free.

The other point to make is a good sex worker with experience, that's why I choose older women, will invariably know how to make the liaison remarkable. They are professionals in their chosen career.

I started late to buying sex, 50, I it was a real eye opener to me, and I have never looked back in regret and have fond memories of the many women I have met.

There are true independents, but don't dismiss those working in brothels. For many it's a choice of convienience. The advertising has been done, the premises and showers are there. The checking of the clients has been done. When they leave after the shift they are not having to take calls and fill their diary. It's similar to working for a company or running your own business. When running your own business you are never off duty. That s the ideal brothel, and there are those that do exist in places like Edinburgh.

Criminalisation is what brings about the exploitation. The happiest sex workers are in countries like Western Australia and New Zealand, which embraced decriminalisation. The laws in NZ are planning and employment laws, and health and safety.
10:35 PM on 07/11/2012
The difference between male and female sex tourism: the men pay for it. I'll also venture to say that female Attitude and male solicitation are mutually-reinforcing downward spirals. Neither are really fulfilling, but both hamper chances for lasting relationships.
11:34 PM on 07/15/2012
I thought when females visited these lovely island beaches and had sexual liaisons withe the local men, that they did pay. Pay as in gifts as opposed to set negotiated payments.

Don't agree with your last statement. I have a fulfilling unhampered lasting relationship.
08:27 PM on 07/11/2012
I simply don't know what to say. I am dumbstruck. This certainly pushes the envelope.