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Why Are CIA Drones Still Causing the Death of Innocents in Pakistan?

Posted: 25/09/2012 00:00

In Pakistan there are 800,000 people playing Russian Roulette. They do it 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It's not a voluntary game. Someone else holding the gun, refusing to tell how many projectiles there are in the chamber, or even who the weapon is currently aimed at.

According to a report published today by Stanford University and New York University, CIA drones are inflicting this terror on the communities of Waziristan, in North-West Pakistan. The report, originally commissioned by Reprieve, warns that the United States' drone campaign is terrorizing the men, women and children who live in the region night and day. Nobody in the region knows who the drones are targeting or what some CIA informant has to say to place a target on someone. Those living underneath the constant presence of circling Predators are left helpless, with no known means of keeping themselves or their families safe.

The CIA suggests that no innocent people are dying in their drone campaign, a claim that I find beyond improbable - I met at least one innocent youth, the 16-year-old Tariq Aziz, three days before he was killed. Regardless, there are 800,000 innocent victims of this illegal, undeclared drone war, the rest of the Waziristan population.

One local resident described the sound of the drones as a horror washing over the community, leading "children, grown-up people... to scream in terror." This constant fear, according to the Stanford report, leads to widespread "psychological trauma among civilian communities." Parents, fearful of attracting the attention of the Predators - or, more accurately, the drone operators sitting behind a computer thousands of miles away in Nevada - refuse to allow their children to congregate in groups of more than two or three. "The children are crying and they don't go to school. They fear that their schools will be targeted by drones," reported one parent.

There is an equal fear of helping others, as the good samaritan has become a CIA target. The report found "significant evidence" for a process called "double tap", where drones launch a missile at a target and then fire again at those who come to the rescue of the screaming survivors. The result is civilians are discouraged "from coming to one another's rescue," and the CIA is even discouraging provision of emergency medical assistance from humanitarian workers.

While Americans sitting behind computers may be physically operating the drones, others, including some in the UK, are complicit in the terror by reportedly providing locational intelligence to the U.S. for use in drone strikes.

Reprieve is currently representing Noor Khan, whose father was killed in a drone strike. In proceedings before the UK High Court, we are asking the court to force the government to disclose whether it has a lawful policy for providing locational intelligence, so Khan and others can be assured that the UK is not contributing to their ongoing terror. Sadly, we know otherwise: the UK contribution cannot be lawful, since the drone strikes are themselves in violation of the laws of war - there being no legally declared war against Pakistan in the first place, and no Pakistan consent for the US to kill its citizens.

Khan's father, an elder in the local society, was killed in a 17 March 2011 drone strike detailed in the Stanford report. Researchers found that the strike may have killed as many as 42 people. All of the people killed that day were attending a peaceful meeting of a council convened to resolve a local dispute.

When we speak of the toll drones are taking, the Stanford report is an important reminder that any calculation must go beyond just casualties. Those, like Noor Khan, who live under the daily presence of drones, are constantly terrorized by the possibility that they or their loved ones may be next. It is important that those who are carrying out this policy, directly or indirectly, are held accountable, so that Noor Khan's terror may end.

 

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In Pakistan there are 800,000 people playing Russian Roulette. They do it 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It's not a voluntary game. Someone else holding the gun, refusing to tell how many projecti...
In Pakistan there are 800,000 people playing Russian Roulette. They do it 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It's not a voluntary game. Someone else holding the gun, refusing to tell how many projecti...
 
 
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09:40 on 04/10/2012
I think the drones are a good thing, because it takes the war to the enemy, and saves the lives of the "Grunt".
I do not believe in the war in Afghanistan, and our troops should be out of there, but while they are there, then let the drones kill terrorists in Pakistan, and (unfortunately) if some civies get killed, its collateral damage, but if it saves 1 of our troopers lives, ok.
If you DO have a problem, then I would suggest that you put on some "cammies", grab an SA80, and stand on the line, then see what you think of it all.
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knightinchainmail
22:18 on 27/09/2012
Every time a civilian is killed by a drone missile it demonises the west, It is not destroying Al-Quadai, it is recruiting for them. 74% of Pakistani males now see the US as the enemy, and is not the US military that will be targets for recriminatory attacks it is US citizens. The CIA is a independent civilian institution, so the US civilians are carrying out the attacks. If the Military where in control it would constitute an declararation of war.
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22:22 on 25/09/2012
Interviewing 130 people is hardly a comprehensive study.Drones are used because they work .Its pretty hard to get worked up for Jihad and die gloriously in battle against your hated Infidel enemies when your more likely to get Zapped from an invisible enemy in the sky.I would think dinner invitations and local support would dry up as well,after all who wants to hang out with a missile magnet.I think this is precisely why your hearing more about it .Its working and having a demoralizing effect on fighters and there support system.
01:06 on 21/10/2012
You're not understanding the overall context: we are not at war with Pakistan. Therefore, any and all strikes are unequivocally extralegal. Unless, that is, the West fashions itself above the law; if so, we are trotting down that same worn, time-tested path that Rome and other empires did leading up to their demise.

--- Also, from a strategical standpoint you've sorely misread the implications of said attacks: killing one bad guy and several innocent civilians, especially children, only intensifies the radical agenda. Drone warfare is quite literally used as a recruitment tool for radicals. The invisible enemy in the sky may very well make for a cold dinner, but those that have lost loved ones have vengeance on their minds and are hungrier than ever.

Put yourself in their position: would you just "pack it in" if one of your loved ones were killed in strike?
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Tim Veater
22:18 on 25/09/2012
The 18th C. English essayist William Hazlitt said, "the smallest pain in our little finger gives us more concern than the destruction of millions of our fellow beings". Humans are undoubedly selfish "UKVisitor" but they can also be altruistic. How otherwise can one explain heroism? We realise that to survive in anything approaching a civilized state, individual demands are often subsumed to the greater good. Why otherwise would we pay our taxes? Also that our impulses must be restrained by morality and law. It is said we are under two ethical obligations: to do good; to do no harm. Sending money to Pakistan no more excuses killing innocents, than does the claim that no harm was intended. Or indeed that we cannot bring ourselves to treat other people's children as our own. Think what a different it would be if we did though.
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22:36 on 25/09/2012
I don't disagree Tim. But we can't fight a war if we are more concerned about the opponent's children than achieving victory. It's a truism, but "war's hell". We are too keen to start wars, but once one is started, it's the CIC's duty to win as swiftly as possible with as little risk to his troops as possible.

I do not agree with you that intention is irrelevant. Otherwise murder and man-slaughter would be the same thing.
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Tim Veater
23:19 on 25/09/2012
So you don't think twice as long as the Second WW is not long enough to indicate whether it's won or winnable?
01:16 on 21/10/2012
War? Since when did we declare war on Pakistan? Last I checked, not only are we not at war with Pakistan but we are sending them billions of dollars in aid.

Indeed, this is the stuff of empires. Mission-creep will not only bankrupt us financially, it will bankrupt is morally. Remember Rome! They extended themselves too far with their military conquests, demoralizing their citizenry and corrupting their senate. Catch-22 is oh-so apt here: the fall of the Western empire is nigh.

Smith's imagery is chilling, as the implications are damning. We are, legally speaking, murdering others and calling it "Russian roulette." There needs to be a line drawn, but the media has no teeth. Perhaps we ought to Occupy the media?
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MohammedAbbasi
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20:45 on 25/09/2012
The Americans expect "decency" from Pakistanis and Afghans but demand none from western forces that kill civilians? A peculiar double standard.... Terrorism is terrorism whether by state or individuals - the drones attacks apart from killing innocents are making more people take up weapons and fight not less... Imagine if the roles were reversed and Americans were being killed by drones - what American would just 'let it happen'?
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20:58 on 25/09/2012
Quick show of hands here. Anyone here expect 'decency' from Pakistanis and Afghans? Anyone? Anyone?
Nope, thought not.
Mate where were you when the Taliban blew up those skater kids in Afghanistan, or beheaded that Wedding party? I don't remember seeing your comments then.
It's a war and innocent people get killed in war. Sorry but that's an ugly fact. I believe that Western forces, by and large, try to keep collateral casualties to a minimum; otherwise deaths would be in the tens of thousands.
If you don't want the Americans to use drones against the tribal areas, then it might be a good idea to push out the Afghan Taliban yourselves?
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MohammedAbbasi
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21:30 on 25/09/2012
Listen 'Mate' you want to go down that route - check out how many wars the US has been involved in since world war 2? and how many deaths... millions!!!

there is no such thing as 'collateral damage' when your kids are being butchered.
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13:44 on 25/09/2012
Drone strikes are a way to kill Taliban activists at very little risk to our soldiers. I don't have a problem with that. Would there be fewer deaths if we sent the troops in?

The issue is with a "bad" war, not the tactics used to fight it.
22:01 on 25/09/2012
There isn't supposed to be a war in Pakistan. Yes, the Taliban are seeking refuge across the border, but it is true that innocent people are being terrorised by US Predator drones when they're not even within the supposed war-zone. It's illegal for drone strikes to take place within Pakistani borders. Simple as.

I see you above mentioned a wedding party being attacked and beheaded by the Taliban. If the Pakistanis are to be believed, and I'd imagine they can't be lying absolutely every time, then Predator drones regularly mistake wedding parties for members Taliban militias. Is that better than the Taliban killing wedding parties? Cos whatever the intentions, the aftermath is the same.
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22:09 on 25/09/2012
Sensible response mate. My view is we shouldn't be there, but if we are there then I support any measures that hurt the Taliban and don't risk the lives of our boys. I accept that innocent people are killed, but the solution to that is leaving the region, not fighting the war at half measures. Pakistan can't harbour the Taliban and then complain when the Yanks attack the Taliban inside Pakistani territory, that's ridiculous.
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Elijah Hathaway
03:36 on 26/09/2012
It's also "illegal" for them to launch rockets at us from villages in Pakistan, when I was there we responded with 155mm arillery shells, I can tell you that's a much "dumber" weapon and results in many more "innocent" bystanders.
13:01 on 25/09/2012
lives of pakistani children are not equal to the lives of children of the west

such is the level of evolution and advancement of the developed world, so called developed world.
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14:02 on 25/09/2012
The lives of my children are more important to me than the lives of neighbours children;
The lives of British children are more important to me than the lives of foreign children.

That's just plain human nature. Are you pretending that you care as much about Western Children as you do about Pakistani ones?

The West sent £m to Pakistan to combat the flooding, but it's unrealistic to expect us to care as much about your kids as we do about our own. Out of interest, why do I never hear of a Muslim charity giving aid to anything but Muslim causes.
Hypocrite much?
20:39 on 25/09/2012
Well put my friend.
20:45 on 25/09/2012
Very well put my friend.
12:59 on 25/09/2012
I guess the lives of the Pakistani children are nothing compared to the children in the West.
Such is the advancement and evolution of the developed world.
14:17 on 25/09/2012
USA just like to go around the globe ad hoc and bomb other people they do not even know who is under the bombs...they just do not care, they have been the same since WW2 you can see US Army in old footage TRYING to stop Japanese committing suicide by jumping off cliffs...what ever happened to that mindset??? We need to stop USA they are out of control but they have the UN on their side....or rather UN IS USA. trouble is they now have so called NATO allies doing the same...as in Libya I am disgusted with UK.
20:43 on 25/09/2012
Name one of these places that have refused US/UK aid.....No I thought not
20:50 on 25/09/2012
The developed world does not have a government minister that incites murder for cash. You poor Pakistani kids growing up with that mentality
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Tim Veater
12:56 on 25/09/2012
It is ironic that countries most loudly claiming "freedom" and "human rights", are the ones involved in extra judicial murder. The only difference is that the people being killed, are a long way away and the method is an impersonal drone. Of course it doesn't feel "impersonal" if it is your house obliterated or your family killed or injured. Would the American Government consider this method in say Mexico or even a suburb of Washington? If not, how is it acceptable in Pakistan? Is it any wonder, that to those that thrive on a hatred of the West, these immoral and brutal actions are a god-send? For every "terrorist" exterminated, another hundred are recruited. Hardly an intelligent or enlightened approach to international relations, or to defeating anti-western sentiment.
14:23 on 25/09/2012
Yes quite right...and if that were the case "freedom" and "democracy" 2 words mush spouted and used for war...then the first country on the list would be surely Saudi Arabia.........sorry? did I say something wrong there?
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Tim Veater
21:11 on 25/09/2012
It is undoubtedly true that Saudi Arabia was much more closely associated with 9/11 than was Iraq.
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16:40 on 25/09/2012
I don't think that the US would give a rat's about using drones in Mexico or "chocolate city" come to that.

Drones aren't the issue, the issue is should we even be there.
10:45 on 25/09/2012
Skip forwards a couple of decades. Missiles have been replaced by lasers, thereby getting over the collateral deaths objection, so why limit the target area to 'foreigners'. Is it too much of a leap in imagination to having drones patrolling the skies above every city, lawyers in the control room's ready to approve taking out 'threats' to society ?
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20:59 on 25/09/2012
It's a bit 'Judge Dredd', but it's not impossible.