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International Students are Good for the UK

Posted: 26/07/2012 00:00

International students studying in the UK bring an estimated £8bn to our struggling economy. In the coming decade this figure is expected to double. Given that the government is struggling to kick start the economy, you might think it would be keen to support a key area of growth.

But this isn't the case. Without including international student numbers in the net migration statistics, there is no way that ministers can expect to reach their immigration target. So while our competitors like Australia and Canada are doing all they can to attract more international students, the UK has put a cap on them. There are very few people who seem to believe this makes sense.

Last month 68 University Chancellors and Chairs of Council wrote to the Prime Minister asking him to support universities' international activities. And over the weekend, the Sunday Times published a letter which I signed along with some of the country's leading business figures (). The letter argued that we need to continue to send a clear message that international students are welcome to study here. Even Vince Cable, the Higher Education Secretary, has admitted that efforts to cut student immigration may be "damaging to the perception of how we welcome talent from overseas".

Later this week, the eyes of the world will be on London. The biggest international sporting event will be held in what is surely the world's leading international city. But the Olympics is of course more than a sporting event. Beyond the security, VIP bus lanes and corporate sponsorship there is no greater example of the globalised world we live in. And those truly international citizens will be our leaders of the future. They will have contacts spread around the globe, understanding of cultural differences and relish the opportunity to bounce around ideas with people from other backgrounds.

Of course countries need to control their borders. But the UK needs to be at the forefront of educating the global leaders of the future. We have some of the best universities in the world who need to be able to recruit the best and the brightest students. Sending out a signal that we don't want them here is hugely damaging - a quick Google search will reveal all of the bad headlines which have appeared around the globe.

These negative perceptions won't just damage our economy. They undermine our education system too. A university education should very much be an international experience. UK students should have opportunities to mix with talented young people from around the world. A recent report commissioned by the Council for Industry and Higher Education found that leading employers are increasingly looking for global graduates. This doesn't just mean they want talented linguists. Educated graduates who understand different cultures and are able to work well with people from various backgrounds are highly sought after.

A university system which welcomes international students is a key driver to creating a new generation of global graduates. These are the very graduates who will be deciding which countries to invest in and where to locate their workforces. The government should be doing all they can to ensure they hold the UK close to their heart.

 

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International students studying in the UK bring an estimated £8bn to our struggling economy. In the coming decade this figure is expected to double. Given that the government is struggling to kick s...
International students studying in the UK bring an estimated £8bn to our struggling economy. In the coming decade this figure is expected to double. Given that the government is struggling to kick s...
 
 
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01:06 PM on 08/05/2012
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The landladies who house the students do very well out of it. Most of the foreign students obtain good qualifications and usually like to trade with the people who have enabled them to be educated. They contribute to the wealth of the UK far more than meets the eye.
It's amazing to see the racism and jealousy in the posts below this one. Foreign students do not take jobs that could be given to local non-students. If they are allowed to work part-time, it certainly does not enable them to live. It enables them to pay for the entertainment they get from UK businesses and to learn more English and understand the way the locals hink, to learn the local culture.
I feel sorry when I hear of the Russian lady mentioned below. Sorry for the UK. What a waste. What a waste of time all those racists are!
01:06 PM on 08/05/2012
I wonder, when I read all these posts, where the information about foreign students comes from? There are very few, if any, intelligently written posts that make sense. Foreign students pay fees. They pay full fees and do not get loans from UK. They pay for their lodgings, their food and any entertainment they may have. They don't spend their loans on beer and parties like most British students who may never repay their loans unless they start earning decent salaries. I know, I taught them for years. The fees paid by each student represent the cost of teaching them. (teaching cost isn't just the cost of the teachers, but the cost of building classrooms, heating them, keeping them clean and in decent repair, etc... the money paid employs more staff than there are students when you look at all the services provided, and the staff may also be private contractors etc. who live in the vicinity of the university.
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07:14 PM on 07/29/2012
The university who makes the loudest noise of driving foreign students away are the university that gets the revenue from foreign students and not local. Therefore let us be realistic Britian is not driving foreign students away. But some foreign students comes here to take up a course and end up doing care jobs, night jobs. I believe if the foreign students comes here to study they should complete their study. The care jobs and night jobs can be done by UK popoulation . Some of the foreign students comes to study and then they carry on staying when they have found a job as a skilled worker. When people find out the job is given to foreign students this is upsetting people without jobs. Because jobseekers cannot go to other country and take up a job. student. The foreign students are also not doing justice to their own nation where they should be taking their skills after completing the university education and give opportunity to their own countries people opportunity to pick up new skills from them.
02:12 PM on 07/27/2012
International students are good for the pay packets of University chancellors.
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11:08 AM on 07/27/2012
More marxist claptrap
01:02 AM on 07/27/2012
The government put the prices up, they decided this. They did this to keep the working class down and the upper class in control. The foreign students mistakenly think that the UK has a good education system, so we are basically ripping them off as well. Have you ever considered that for maybe two lectures a week, £9,000 is a real con? Half the time the lecture is cancelled and the students told to go to the board and get their assignment and study alone. If they have to study alone why pay £9,000 to do it? I would want 24/7 access to a tutor for £9,000 a term!
01:07 PM on 08/05/2012
What makes you think a university tacher gets £9000 a year?
05:20 PM on 08/05/2012
The students PAY £9,000 a year..That's why it's a rip off..
10:28 PM on 07/26/2012
What a load of rubbish. International students are notorious for over staying their visa's and becoming a burden on the state. A massive proportion aren't here as legitimate students anyway, but come here to work. Plus the legitimate ones have driven up the cost of university education so far it is now far out of reach of native British kids!
01:03 AM on 07/27/2012
The government decided the cost, not hong poo from peking. Wake up
09:32 AM on 07/27/2012
the legitimate international students HAVEN'T driven up the costs for British students - the government alone did that.
02:12 AM on 07/28/2012
You are both wrong. The government set the upper limit uni's can charge at £9k per year, the Uni's set their own prices. It just happens to be they ALL raised their fees to the maximum.Why? Because university education is a big money making business, and international are charged much more than British students. So they all raise their fees, fewer British students attend, and the University has greater capacity for higher paying foreign students. It just a back door for continued mass immigration orchestrated by the government and a massive cash boost for the uni's, driven by the greed of the high paid University hierarchy. Open your eyes. 
09:42 PM on 07/26/2012
we have paid to train the lecturers,built the universites.it should primarilary be for the use of british students.the government seems to have a deliberate dumb down the electorate,and give them the scraps whilst selling us out to the highest bidder.the reason why the chinese are here to learn and copy and then destroy competition.always trying to steal technology and ideas.the tories will sell us out for money,labour will sell us out for power,the libdems will sell us out...so as not to upset the minority....revolution required i think.
01:08 AM on 07/27/2012
I agree, but who gets the £9,000 per term? And secondly who gets the profit from this?
If the foreign students come to steal ideas, why don't our students go abroad to study? The only thing the students steal is our language and then use it to get the best jobs, because they are already more intelligent than the average UK student, due to our dumbing down and crap education system. We will become a nation of care-workers and toilet cleaners..With due respect to people who do this of course.
09:35 PM on 07/26/2012
For those who are moaning about places for local students...the reason why universities need international students is because they pay £20k+ per year in tuition fees alone.

Many if not all universities rely on international student fees to cover the cost of expensive courses for local students.

The reality of the matter is when they're paying that much for tuition fee alone and are required to show the availability of at least £10k a year to live on when applying for a visa, they've covered all their expenses and then some.

If you don't want international students, then I reckon you need to be prepared for US style tuition fees that most locals would not be able to afford and students loans the government would not be able to provide.
01:10 AM on 07/27/2012
At last common sense and truth prevails..well said... It's about time there was a reality check here.
07:43 PM on 07/26/2012
UK students should have opportunities to mix with talented young people from around the world.
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EXACTLY! We need these students., The benefits are entirely mutual.
07:21 PM on 07/26/2012
Foreigners are a burden on this country period. They abuse our laws, they abuse our benefit system and they abuse our women and children. The doors of the UK have been wedged open by the bleeding heart brigade for too long - it's about time the doors were shut.
01:15 AM on 07/27/2012
My wife has a degree in Maths and IT and is now passing on her skills to English kids. She was refused a teaching job because she is from Russia. She speaks three languages fluently and now has her own education business here. But I agree let's deport her..she is a scrounging waste of space. She gets kids A* in maths who started with D grades, 6 months before. She teaches equations that kids are told to guess by the highly skilled English teachers, she tells them how to work it out and get the answer..But let's close the door!
07:05 PM on 07/26/2012
England, come one come all, everybody welcome unless you are english and white.
07:45 PM on 07/26/2012
Many white, English working-class kids just waste their time at school. They avoid any kind of study. Their parent or parents do not care. That is also part of the problem.
09:36 AM on 07/27/2012
toffeeman - don't be ridiculous.
06:19 PM on 07/26/2012
Many international students particularly from Pakistan just apply for college and university courses to gain entry to Britain. Once they arrive, they usually disappear and immigration officers stand a very slim chance of ever tracing them again.
07:14 PM on 07/26/2012
Whilst you may well be right in some cases, the situation is more complicated than that. My university has many American, Canadian and Chinese students, few if any of which stay illegally. The 'one size fits all' policy which tries to treat one problem just creates others. Foreign fee-paying students subsidise home students. They also bring a set of different cultures to the place which can help to break down some of the bigotry and racism seen in some (not this one) of the posts on this site. As an export industry education is a significant contributor, like it or not, and universities financially would be poorer for their exclusion - impacting on the services provided to home students. It's a balancing act, and interference from politicians who manipulate public opinion to make headline-grabbing brownie points does not help. Covering up the understaffing of the UK Border Agency who cannot effectively track bogus students and get rid of them is the main issue, not the systematic strangling of a thriving and very profitable (for the UK) industry.
06:17 PM on 07/26/2012
Students don't come here for the benefit of this country, they come here for the benefit of themselves. Surely if we removed these foreugn students and replaced them with our own, then that would be the greatest benefit for this country.
09:38 PM on 07/26/2012
We don't have jobs for the studens we do have coming out of university, so what is the point in producing more. At least if they come and pay they are adding to the coffers, and if the Border Agency were properly staffed, properly trained, and kept a better eye on things there would not be so many staying in the country after their education is finished. If they opt out before their education is finished, find them and send them back whence they came. However, in order to do that, it would be necessary not to wreck the police service or the immigration service, but as this government is hell bent on wrecking both, they will continue to do that "good job that Cameron keeps talking about, as we stumble towards total annihilation in the world order.
07:58 AM on 07/27/2012
I cant understand why when we catch them we dont just put them on the next flight straight out. But no we put them in Detention centers for ever and a day on freebies.
Every other Country sends over stayers, terrorists, criminals. and ponces straight back to where they came from....
09:39 AM on 07/27/2012
If foreign students weren't allowed, most British students couldn't afford to go to university - even those that do so currently or have done so recently.

International students pay in excess of £20,000 yearly fees - heavily subsidising the native British students' education (up to £9,000 per year in fees).
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04:59 PM on 07/26/2012
Colleges and Universities wish the country to have an open door policy when it comes to attracting the best and the brightest international students.

Suggestion:

That any College or University that accepts international students be made to pay a bond for each student.
If said student fails to leave the country, they the College / University, forfeits the bond equal to three times the total tutition fee origiinally payed and are liable to all costs for deporting said student.

Would help to focus minds.